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Soda in a Plastic Bottle 12.9.2016 klo 0.55
Why is my VDSL internet not that fast?
I've had VDSL for quite a while now, and it's faster than my old ADSL but not by much. I searched up the average download speed and it says that VDSL should be 15-70 Mbps download speed. I'm shocked by seeing this as my download speed is only 4 pushing 5. I'm using an Ethernet cable for my PC so I'm wondering what's wrong.
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CursedPanther 12.9.2016 klo 18.44 
DaddyBeee lähetti viestin:
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You really can't ask much more out of DSL to be honest. The next real upgrade will be optical fiber, which is impossible for many regions due to extremely low cost efficiency.

Normally I would agree that DSL isn't great, but VDSL is different. I have VDSL and can download at around 8MB/s (80 mb/s) and my downloads on here (Steam) are, on average, 8.5MB/s.
You're missing the bigger picture. With optical fiber we're talking about 1Gbps services. It may come as a surprise to some of you but even 10Gbps services have been deployed at certain corners of the world already:

https://www.m1.com.sg/personal/home-broadband/10gbps
https://www.netvigator.com/eng/pages.php?url=10Gig-broadband

Pretty sure Steam servers can't handle that much bandwidth for one single client though.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on CursedPanther; 12.9.2016 klo 18.45
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Bad 💀 Motha 12.9.2016 klo 18.58 
Yes staying with any DSL Service, even if that DSL is 100mbps, it's overall bandwidth is not nearly as good as an ISP that has better internal network. This is why for above 50mbps, Comcast gives out DOCSIS 3.0 Modems+Router, as these modems have "8-channel downstream" to allow higher bandwidth for those users of theirs who have 50mbps or higher speed plans.

Also if your ISP supplied Modem and/or Router is beyond 3-5 years, call and have them replace it. FCC says by law (at least for USA) they have to do this now, to ensure your ISP equipment is not using outdated/limited security options.

And no, even with a 1Gbps ISP, Steam will cap you at 50MB downloads. Which is around the download speed of a 400-500Mbps ISP speed plan.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Bad 💀 Motha; 12.9.2016 klo 18.59
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Hamzer the Conqueror (of lands) 13.9.2016 klo 2.11 
Bad-Motha lähetti viestin:
Yes staying with any DSL Service, even if that DSL is 100mbps, it's overall bandwidth is not nearly as good as an ISP that has better internal network. This is why for above 50mbps, Comcast gives out DOCSIS 3.0 Modems+Router, as these modems have "8-channel downstream" to allow higher bandwidth for those users of theirs who have 50mbps or higher speed plans.

Also if your ISP supplied Modem and/or Router is beyond 3-5 years, call and have them replace it. FCC says by law (at least for USA) they have to do this now, to ensure your ISP equipment is not using outdated/limited security options.

And no, even with a 1Gbps ISP, Steam will cap you at 50MB downloads. Which is around the download speed of a 400-500Mbps ISP speed plan.
Steam wtf? Why you gotta censor that?!
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MancSoulja 13.9.2016 klo 2.16 
Bad-Motha lähetti viestin:
Yes staying with any DSL Service, even if that DSL is 100mbps, it's overall bandwidth is not nearly as good as an ISP that has better internal network. This is why for above 50mbps, Comcast gives out DOCSIS 3.0 Modems+Router, as these modems have "8-channel downstream" to allow higher bandwidth for those users of theirs who have 50mbps or higher speed plans.

Also if your ISP supplied Modem and/or Router is beyond 3-5 years, call and have them replace it. FCC says by law (at least for USA) they have to do this now, to ensure your ISP equipment is not using outdated/limited security options.

And no, even with a 1Gbps ISP, Steam will cap you at 50MB downloads. Which is around the download speed of a 400-500Mbps ISP speed plan.

I've just switched to a 200Mb DOCSIS 3.0 service, just waiting for my upgraded router now xD
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Washell 13.9.2016 klo 3.39 
Bad-Motha lähetti viestin:
Steam wtf? Why you gotta censor that?!
Because it refers to a certain website.
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Seven7 13.9.2016 klo 4.22 
DOCSIS is like V | A DSL - it's a PAIN:
modem, which is constantly flashing like a Christmas tree, which responds to everything from radio or road night lighting lamp to a faulty refrigerator neighbors, after each visit of an electrician, you need check that was not there in the panel circuits or leakage current
the ends of the cables should be regularly cut by 10-15 centimeters, especially in the wet climate - they begin to corrode and rot
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Bad 💀 Motha 13.9.2016 klo 19.05 
Washell lähetti viestin:
Because it refers to a certain website.

Hmm you quoted me though, which is wrong, I never said that.
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Soda in a Plastic Bottle 13.9.2016 klo 20.52 
Yeah I would have gone for fibre but the house I'm currently staying in is quite old and my neighbours had an internet horror story where they were offered a free upgrade to fiber by Vodafone but after they installed it the internet was super slow. Then Vodafone said something like you have to go to the next level of fiber to get faster internet so they decided to go back but they had to live 1 month without wifi.
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CursedPanther 13.9.2016 klo 21.02 
Soda in A Plastic Bottle lähetti viestin:
Yeah I would have gone for fibre but the house I'm currently staying in is quite old and my neighbours had an internet horror story where they were offered a free upgrade to fiber by Vodafone but after they installed it the internet was super slow. Then Vodafone said something like you have to go to the next level of fiber to get faster internet so they decided to go back but they had to live 1 month without wifi.
What kinda 'fiber' upgrade is that? The most common type of upgrade right now is fiber to the hub down the main road, which means the last mile to your house remains to be copper cable. I suppose the so-called next level as in having a direct optical fiber connected straight into your house to your router/converter, will definitely cost the user more.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on CursedPanther; 13.9.2016 klo 21.04
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Soda in a Plastic Bottle 13.9.2016 klo 21.05 
CursedPanther lähetti viestin:
Soda in A Plastic Bottle lähetti viestin:
Yeah I would have gone for fibre but the house I'm currently staying in is quite old and my neighbours had an internet horror story where they were offered a free upgrade to fiber by Vodafone but after they installed it the internet was super slow. Then Vodafone said something like you have to go to the next level of fiber to get faster internet so they decided to go back but they had to live 1 month without wifi.
What kinda 'fiber' upgrade is that? The most common type of upgrade right now is fiber to the hub down the main road, which means the last mile to your house remains to be copper cable. I suppose the so-called next level as in having a direct optical fiber connected straight into your house to your router/converter will definitely cost the user more.
If you mean upgrading fibre if you already have the "base version", it makes you internet faster by 50mbps or something so it goes up to 200mbps in the last upgrade thing I'm pretty sure.
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Soda in a Plastic Bottle 13.9.2016 klo 21.11 
But only some ISP's do that.
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CursedPanther 13.9.2016 klo 21.11 
Soda in A Plastic Bottle lähetti viestin:
CursedPanther lähetti viestin:
What kinda 'fiber' upgrade is that? The most common type of upgrade right now is fiber to the hub down the main road, which means the last mile to your house remains to be copper cable. I suppose the so-called next level as in having a direct optical fiber connected straight into your house to your router/converter will definitely cost the user more.
If you mean upgrading fibre if you already have the "base version", it makes you internet faster by 50mbps or something so it goes up to 200mbps in the last upgrade thing I'm pretty sure.
If your neighbor is enjoying a 50+Mbps DSL service previously then sure it may feel like a downgrade at first. But then immediate bandwidth is only one of many deciding factors when you're into this kinda things. I would be also concerned with transmission latency at the minimum.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on CursedPanther; 13.9.2016 klo 21.12
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Bad 💀 Motha 13.9.2016 klo 21.46 
CursedPanther lähetti viestin:
Soda in A Plastic Bottle lähetti viestin:
Yeah I would have gone for fibre but the house I'm currently staying in is quite old and my neighbours had an internet horror story where they were offered a free upgrade to fiber by Vodafone but after they installed it the internet was super slow. Then Vodafone said something like you have to go to the next level of fiber to get faster internet so they decided to go back but they had to live 1 month without wifi.
What kinda 'fiber' upgrade is that? The most common type of upgrade right now is fiber to the hub down the main road, which means the last mile to your house remains to be copper cable. I suppose the so-called next level as in having a direct optical fiber connected straight into your house to your router/converter, will definitely cost the user more.

Depends on the ISP; there usually is no setup costs for Verizon FiOS or Google Fiber if you sign up for 2 years. If you want to opt-out of a contract (if that is a thing) then i'm sure that yes, there would be initial setup costs. As such service would mean bring the Fiber to your home and installing wall jacks and such for that, setting up a lock box for the connection outside your home, etc.
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