4K monitor or GSYNC 1080?

[MARPAT]

I've got a mid to low-end PC (specs below) with a brand new GTX 1080 Founders edition...so naturally I am looking at upgrading my five year old DVI/HDM HP2710m monitor to an actual gaming monitor. Price point isn't an issue I'm willing to pay for quality but I cannot for the life of me figure out what to get. It basically boils down to the ACER Predator Z35 (fast refresh rates but not 4K) or a 4K monitor (possibly the Acer Predator 34 series also with GSYNC). Since I'm working with such an inferior monitor now I feel like I have no reference point. Someone help. What ould you get in my position?

SYSTEM SPECS:

AMD FX-8370 28 °C
Vishera 32nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 866MHz (11-13-13-35)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. M5A99FX PRO R2.0 (Socket 942) 27 °C
Graphics
HP 2710 (1920x1080@60Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (Undefined) 31 °C

[Omega]

go for 1440p

[MARPAT]

So it would seem that before i invest upt to 1,000.00 on a monitor I should upgrade my CPU. I honestly didn't understand how much my CPU was holding back my gaming performance.

[shiel]

A 1080 is perfect for 1440p/gsync...currently doing exactly that with a 1080 Strix/4770k and a pg279q. I wouldn't go any lower or higher with the resolution... Your cpu is your limiting factor, ideal situation would be an i5 6600k and a z170 board with the 1080 and a monitor like the Asus pg279q or Acer xb271hu...

[Damian]

Escrito originalmente por MARPAT:

I've got a mid to low-end PC (specs below) with a brand new GTX 1080 Founders edition...so naturally I am looking at upgrading my five year old DVI/HDM HP2710m monitor to an actual gaming monitor. Price point isn't an issue I'm willing to pay for quality but I cannot for the life of me figure out what to get. It basically boils down to the ACER Predator Z35 (fast refresh rates but not 4K) or a 4K monitor (possibly the Acer Predator 34 series also with GSYNC). Since I'm working with such an inferior monitor now I feel like I have no reference point. Someone help. What ould you get in my position?

SYSTEM SPECS:

AMD FX-8370 28 °C
Vishera 32nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 866MHz (11-13-13-35)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. M5A99FX PRO R2.0 (Socket 942) 27 °C
Graphics
HP 2710 (1920x1080@60Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (Undefined) 31 °C

That CPU is slower than a i3 Skylake. Buy i7, 4770k, 4790k, 6700k.

[just.kamk /idle]

Escrito originalmente por MARPAT:

So it would seem that before i invest upt to 1,000.00 on a monitor I should upgrade my CPU. I honestly didn't understand how much my CPU was holding back my gaming performance.

In newer games it doesn't.
Decent i7 might be good for the future, but i3 / i5 would be just a sidegrade.

Want to test it before you buy a new display? Try nvidia DSR.

[[☥] - CJ -]

1440p +1
4K with a GTX 1080 can still encounter FPS problems.

[vadim]

Escrito originalmente por kamk:

In newer games it doesn't.
Decent i7 might be good for the future, but i3 / i5 would be just a sidegrade.

Wrong again. FX will bottleneck even middle-end graphics like GTX 1060 in all games, dependless on how "modern" they are.
Core i3 and i5 have completely different performance level. Including gaming performance. They cannot both be "sidegrade" at the same time. Gaming FX performance is relatively equal to Core i3. Core i5 will give better FPS in 99% games. In many cases up to 50% better.

[banzaigtv]

Compared to FXs, the i3-6100 is up to 20% faster, the i5-6600k is up to 50% faster, and the i7-6700k is up to 65% faster.

[Hare+Guu!]

Why stop at 1 monitor? Go triple 1080p using 3 75hz. It will cost about the same as a 4k. It's only 2megapixels less than 4k so it won't be as demanding so it can easily run over 60fps while giving you all the real estate you want. You can also just switch from ultrawide back to normal res when you need the fps for some reason without it looking like a blurry mess.

[_I_]

go with a 1440p 144hz gsync over 4k anything
or 3x 1080p 144hz gsync for surround gaming

and skylake i3 or i5 are faster than fx for gaming
for video editing/encoding the fx will do ok vs an i5 but i7 will beat it

[MARPAT]

I wanted to upate everyone and also get some perspect. So based on the consensus of advice I concluded AMD was hopeless so I scrapped the rig...a fortuitous circumstance on Craig's list allowed me to buy a new Intel based rig while also selling the AMD machine. After getting the new PC (specs below)I purchased an Acer Predator XB271HU. Here is where I'm at.

I am surprised, if not shocked that on AAA titles like Deus Ex Mankind Divided and Dying light I cannot pull more than 100 FPS was that an unrealistic expectation?. It seems silly to have a 144hz monitor and Gsync if I can't even break 100FPS? I'm at 75-85 in Dying Light. I mean my assumption was that everyone was going out and buying these 144hz monitors because they could use them...now on some titles COD Advanced Warfare for instance...I can pull 144 FPS but not on others. Anyway, I'd appreciate some perspective.

I began this post pondering if ACER Z35 was a good option for a monitor (same price as the one I just bought) because I assumed that the 1080p would all but guarantee over 144hz frames. 1440p is beautiful, but I am not sure it is that much greater?

How are people running 4K 2x GTX 1080 in SLI?

Sorry for the rant, any thoughts are welcome.

System Specs:

Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K @ 4.00GHz 21 °C
Skylake 14nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Single-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)
Motherboard
MSI Z170A-G45 GAMING (MS-7977) (U3E1) 35 °C
Graphics
XB271HU (2560x1440@144Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (NVIDIA) 36 °C
Storage
931GB Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB (SSD)

[_I_]

Escrito originalmente por MARPAT:

RAM
16.0GB Single-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)

fix this

if you have a 2x8g kit put them in the same colored slots
if its a single 16g dimm, return it and get a 2x8g kit

and the gtx 1080 should be an 8g gpu not 4g

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yes, refer to the Motherboard Manual for properly installing your RAM for Dual-Channel config. and enabled the XMP Profile in the BIOS.

Again; SPECCY and many other apps will report the VRAM wrong... it is normal.

You can clarify that in NVIDIA Control Panel, Geforce Experience, or GPU-Z for example.

What kind of performance did you expect @ 1440p/144Hz?
And stop looking for 144 FPS; that does not matter.

[vadim]

Dual channel nearly useless for gaming. Games ain't memory intensive apps and vast majority of the code is in the cache. You can get in best case you will get few percents FPS increase from dual channel. In worst you will gain nothing. But if you can get anything for free, why don't do that?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

It's hardly about that; it's about doing it right...