SHREDDER 2016년 9월 5일 오전 12시 26분
Overclocking 2500k with stock coller?
I have 2500k3 ,3ghz and motherboard is ASUS P567LE. It is with the stock cooler. I have nevee try overclocking it that why i want to know can with the stock coller be overclocked even little or do i need another coller even for a small overclock? If it can, then what the higherst overclock it can reach and be stable with the cooler it has and how much do i need to raise the multipilier to achieve it? Shoud i overclock it from ASUS OC ulitility through BIOS?
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SHREDDER 2016년 9월 7일 오전 7시 45분 
Ι κnow it already. So far i am on 3.7 ghz for 3 days with no issues even on most demanding games. With the new cooler that i bought will i be ok up to 4.2 ghz with low temperatures?
Bad 💀 Motha 2016년 9월 7일 오전 7시 54분 
3.7 is not an OC technically, u are just forcing the CPU to run at what would be the normal Turbo speed. So yea that would be fine on the stock cooler even.

But yea I'll be quiet... seriously just test the cooler and an OC, and then test for max temps and overall stability once u apply any OC and see how it all does.
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SHREDDER 2016년 9월 7일 오전 8시 15분 
ok. Will it be better if i buy a better PSU to make sure that oc will be stable? I have 650 watt psu. Maybe a 800 watt will be enough? Ram is 12 gb ddr 3 1600 mhz and gpu gtx 970 g1 gaming. iam try to decide between corshair 760 and 800 watt. What do you suggest? Also to make sure that i wlll not have issues when i buy new cpu and graphics card.
SHREDDER 2016년 9월 7일 오후 1시 18분 
Since i wll go tomorow again to the shop to buy new PSU Corshair 750 watt i am thinking about returniong this cooler and get the 80 euros one the one that you guyst suggested me. But does it fit on a mid range case or does it need those huge cases that people who has sli cards and core i7 higd end cpu uses?
Beardface31 2016년 9월 7일 오후 1시 21분 
What is your current PSU? If its a good quality 650W I don't see why you would replace it.
Bad 💀 Motha 2016년 9월 7일 오후 1시 29분 
Nope, a higher wattage PSU will do nothing. Your current PSU already well exceeds all your total system power needs, given its current specs.
SHREDDER 2016년 9월 7일 오후 1시 35분 
Beardface님이 먼저 게시:
What is your current PSU? If its a good quality 650W I don't see why you would replace it.
It is 650 watt but i dont remeber the model. Realy? How many watt psu does 2500k needs to work on high overclock like 4.5 ghz. Can it work well even on a lower than 650 watt psu?
Bad 💀 Motha 2016년 9월 7일 오후 1시 43분 
OC will not increase the amount of needed extra watts by very much.
And that also depends on any voltage changes or increases. If you can OC a bit without a voltage increase, the wattage at peak loads really shouldn't change. Most CPUs you can OC enough to see performance increases, simply by manually upping the CPU Multiplier alone. Changing voltage manually should really only be needed once an OC becomes un-stable.

A Bronze Certified 650W is more than enough for 2500K CPU + GTX 970; if the PSU is decent, 500-550W should be enough for that and that's with breathing room still.

Since you are new to OverClocking; google search your Motherboard Model + Overclocking Guide

Most OC how-to tutorials or videos can better explain the details more clearly; and also visually showing the BIOS and explain the various settings.
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SHREDDER 2016년 9월 7일 오후 2시 45분 
Ok then i willl not buy new Psu. If you say that even 550 watt is enough then my 650 watt is more than enough. Should i return the cooler and buy the more biiger and expensive one that costs 80 euros? Does the more expensive cooler fits on a medium size case like mine or does it need a big case?
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Ok then i willl not buy new Psu. If you say that even 550 watt is enough then my 650 watt is more than enough. Should i return the cooler and buy the more biiger and expensive one that costs 80 euros? Does the more expensive cooler fits on a medium size case like mine or does it need a big case?
Check your height for CPU coolers on some page which mention it for your case. What's the case name if you want me to google it for you.

NH-L12: 93 mm (with fan, 66 without), 415 gram, 680 gram with fans.
NH-U9B SE2: 125 mm / 460 gram, 550/640 with fans.
EVO 212: 159 mm / 465 gram (HEATSINK ONLY)
NH-D14: 160 mm / 900 gram, 1070/1240 with fans!!
NH-D15: 165 mm / 980 gram, 1320 with fans!!

I don't know if the Noctua fans SHOULD clear all motherboards and memory modules if they are made up to spec or not, but I'm very confident not all built upon with heatsinks and what not modules on all motherboard will fit under the fans and maybe not even the sink in all scenarios (if the NH-L12 you can remove the bottom 90 mm fan and on the NH-D14 and NH-D15 you can remove the fan which is hitting them if that happens), so that is also one think to keep in mind.

As you can see the NH-L12 is just 93 mm high and if in a very tight spot you could remove the upper 120 mm fan but then it would perform worse of course, it's not all that heavy and likely ok to transport the computer with. The NH-U9B SE2 isn't all that much higher and a tower design if you prefer that / don't care for flatness, if the NH-L12 blows towards the motherboard it will likely help cool power regulation and RAM too (but also blow somewhat hotter CPU air on them while doing so, but still better than no air?), on the other hand the tower cooler can blow in the same direction as your fan cutouts in the case which likely help with airflow through the case. I guess.

If you compare the NH-D14 and NH-D15 vs the EVO 212 then they are much more expensive and just that small bit higher but you get twice as much metal in them and the Noctua fans which I assume may be more reliable and make a bit less noise.
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Bad 💀 Motha 2016년 9월 7일 오후 2시 59분 
Ones such as Hyper212-EVO you can adjust the fan up/down along the heatsink to avoid collision with RAM.
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SHREDDER 2016년 9월 8일 오전 10시 53분 
I returned the cooler and bought the best one they had at the shop! I bought Corhair H60. Price is 100 euros. With this i will not have any issue overclocking, right? Can go up to 4.5 ghz?
SHREDDER님이 먼저 게시:
I returned the cooler and bought the best one they had at the shop! I bought Corhair H60. Price is 100 euros. With this i will not have any issue overclocking, right? Can go up to 4.5 ghz?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU6W_YkqILY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j80dQIxkdc

The NH-D14 would cool the processor better than the H60.

1) Surface area / radiator area is larger.
2) (Possibly larger fans / more air flow too.)
3) Heat conductivity is of course better metal to metal (to metal) over the very short distance relative metal to water to metal over a longer distance.

So for performance (at-least with a well ventilated case) the air cooler would keep temperatures lower and likely / maybe noise as well.

The reason the water cooler is more expensive is because it contain the block, the plumping, the pump, and the advantage of it is that less of the cooler sit over the processor weighting it down less and leaving more room for air flow for whatever else I guess but mostly that the water helps transfer the heat to the radiator and out of the case.

The air cooler will blow it near itself, the water cooler will bring the heat some more distance away, that's what it does, it doesn't magically bring higher cooler performance (even though one could assume so simply because saying it's water cooled SOUNDS cool and hey water conduct heat better than air right? But it's not water flowing over the radiator it's still air. If you rinsed the radiator of either cooler with cold water we'd be talking.

There's plenty of hits for the combination:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=2500k+h60+oc

Cheap EVO 212 doing much better than the H60 here but I don't know what case fans he have and how he has it setup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhYjT3KdiHQ

An all in one water cooler such as the H60 sadly doesn't offer great bang for the buck when it comes to cooling, it may look cool, possibly ease transport (then again water and pump? I don't know if there's any problem there) remove some of that heat out of the case.
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SHREDDER 2016년 9월 8일 오전 11시 31분 
Etnopluralism / Aliquis님이 먼저 게시:
SHREDDER님이 먼저 게시:
I returned the cooler and bought the best one they had at the shop! I bought Corhair H60. Price is 100 euros. With this i will not have any issue overclocking, right? Can go up to 4.5 ghz?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU6W_YkqILY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j80dQIxkdc

The NH-D14 would cool the processor better than the H60.

1) Surface area / radiator area is larger.
2) (Possibly larger fans / more air flow too.)
3) Heat conductivity is of course better metal to metal (to metal) over the very short distance relative metal to water to metal over a longer distance.

So for performance (at-least with a well ventilated case) the air cooler would keep temperatures lower and likely / maybe noise as well.

The reason the water cooler is more expensive is because it contain the block, the plumping, the pump, and the advantage of it is that less of the cooler sit over the processor weighting it down less and leaving more room for air flow for whatever else I guess but mostly that the water helps transfer the heat to the radiator and out of the case.

The air cooler will blow it near itself, the water cooler will bring the heat some more distance away, that's what it does, it doesn't magically bring higher cooler performance (even though one could assume so simply because saying it's water cooled SOUNDS cool and hey water conduct heat better than air right? But it's not water flowing over the radiator it's still air. If you rinsed the radiator of either cooler with cold water we'd be talking.
Τhey didnt have it so i bought the best they currently had. They told that for 2500k is more than enough to overclock it to the max
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