Ghoti Aug 31, 2016 @ 1:46am
Can the hp envy 13 run architecture software?
Planning to get the i5 model of the envy 13. From what i have been told, i will only begin using cad in 2 years time, but i need a portable laptop for a cheap price now.

Im wondering if the envy 13 is enough to do basic stuff using autocad. Pretty sure my uni have workstations, and i can render the big stuff on my main pc, but i might want to draw a few lines during my spare time in campus.

I will probably still get the envy 13 (if my budget increases, will get the ux305ua) but would like to know if i can do things other than web browsing, word processing and youtube.
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Bad 💀 Motha Aug 31, 2016 @ 1:49am 
Always use i7 w/ CAD

If going with New Laptop, then look at Intel Skylake i7 MQ or HQ model of CPU
Coupled with NVIDIA GTX 1060 or better.

Starts at approx $1200 USD

Nothing cheap will handle CAD or 3D Rendering well.
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; Aug 31, 2016 @ 1:50am
Ghoti Aug 31, 2016 @ 1:53am 
No way i will spend that much for a laptop. In 2 years time the 1060 will be outdated and there isnt any good laptops with gpus woth a 13inch screen.

Im not going to render using the laptop of course. Just need to draw a few line (add to an existing project during free time). And as a said, i wont begin using cad until my 2nd year of degree, and i am still in my first semester of foundation.
Seven7 Aug 31, 2016 @ 1:56am 
2D 3D editing without assigned materials, lights, renderers can be used on i3
he need hi-end laptop only if used it for 3D rendering, animation and solid modeling \ calculating strains as main \ single laptop
Last edited by Seven7; Aug 31, 2016 @ 1:58am
Ghoti Aug 31, 2016 @ 1:58am 
Maybe i could also get the i7 model, coupled with 8gb ram.

I will do all my 3d stuff with materials and rendering on my main rig anyway. I do know the limits, just need to know if i can even draw a few 2d lines.
Seven7 Aug 31, 2016 @ 2:02am 
programms? version?
some cad | 3D not work on integrated video
Bad 💀 Motha Aug 31, 2016 @ 2:21am 
Seriously you are aiming way to low... If Laptop then it can't be anything cheap; it just won't work for what you wish to use it for.

- i7 MQ/HQ (6th Gen)
- 16GB RAM
- SSD + HDD
- GTX 1060 minimum

But yes, if you could list the kinds of apps you'd be using, that surely would help.
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Ghoti Aug 31, 2016 @ 2:27am 
Originally posted by Bad-Motha:
Seriously you are aiming way to low... If Laptop then it can't be anything cheap; it just won't work for what you wish to use it for.

- i7 MQ/HQ (6th Gen)
- 16GB RAM
- SSD + HDD
- GTX 1060 minimum

But yes, if you could list the kinds of apps you'd be using, that surely would help.
the thing is i stilldont know
i would assume that the main one will be autocad 2018

i am aiming for portability because i dont want to lug a heavy laptop for 2 years just for word processing and research only to find out that in 2018, the 1060 is considered outdated
Seven7 Aug 31, 2016 @ 2:29am 
I'm designer + CAD + 3D - on Autodesk products this laptop may get warning about GPU, not optimized drivers, etc. 3DMax run only with software | directx renderer slow redraw, no anti-aliasing, etc.

on this laptop you will have to follow the rules:
not to assign materials and light sources to the end of work
work with blocks
if you want to pick up materials and lighting it on a laptop to use a simple scene with a minimum of parts and objects
otherwise it will significantly slow down, if you suddenly decide to edit the drawing a supermarket or a 3D visualization
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Bad 💀 Motha Aug 31, 2016 @ 2:38am 
PisspoTato anything you buy will be outdated in approx 3 years anyways; regardless of how much you spend on whats available right now. Especially with a Laptop.

And with the newer NVIDIA GTX 1000 series Mobile GPUs; they are no longer watered down versions; these are full desktop GPUs essentially, so I would not see these getting outdated nearly as quickly as older ones; for example a GTX 960M is only as good as maybe Desktop GT 940 or so.

But yea if you are doing Autodesk, then you want to go with Desktop and slightly older GPUs, like TitanX or 900 series. GTX 780 Ti is rather cheap, and can do quite well with Autodesk.

Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; Aug 31, 2016 @ 2:41am
Cathulhu Aug 31, 2016 @ 2:43am 
Actually, the 960M is more or less on par with a 560Ti, which is a videocard from late 2009/2010.
Bad 💀 Motha Aug 31, 2016 @ 3:32am 
Originally posted by Cathulhu:
Actually, the 960M is more or less on par with a 560Ti, which is a videocard from late 2009/2010.

Yea, which is about where a GT 940 is...
Seven7 Aug 31, 2016 @ 4:06am 
Anyway hp overpriced... no matter if he buys an expensive and trendy aluminum ultrabook, and bend the cover when it is worn between the audiences, or buy cheaper asus or lenovo, and breaking cover, replace it for a small price

I have seen many such stories, the student buy a super duper fancy ultrabook, and he breaks it, and another one for the next year, and more...

most importantly, the laptop must be a full hd screen - versions of installers autocad since 2013 does not fit into the screens smaller 1280x1024 or you will use external monitor
Ghoti Aug 31, 2016 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Bad-Motha:
PisspoTato anything you buy will be outdated in approx 3 years anyways; regardless of how much you spend on whats available right now. Especially with a Laptop.

And with the newer NVIDIA GTX 1000 series Mobile GPUs; they are no longer watered down versions; these are full desktop GPUs essentially, so I would not see these getting outdated nearly as quickly as older ones; for example a GTX 960M is only as good as maybe Desktop GT 940 or so.

But yea if you are doing Autodesk, then you want to go with Desktop and slightly older GPUs, like TitanX or 900 series. GTX 780 Ti is rather cheap, and can do quite well with Autodesk.
forgot to mention my current rig has a gtx1070 already and i dont need a laptop with almost the same power.

As i said portability is the most important now. of course if there is a 13 inch lightweight laptop with a good dedicated gpu available, i will go for it.
Ghoti Aug 31, 2016 @ 10:47am 
Originally posted by Seven7:
Anyway hp overpriced... no matter if he buys an expensive and trendy aluminum ultrabook, and bend the cover when it is worn between the audiences, or buy cheaper asus or lenovo, and breaking cover, replace it for a small price

I have seen many such stories, the student buy a super duper fancy ultrabook, and he breaks it, and another one for the next year, and more...

most importantly, the laptop must be a full hd screen - versions of installers autocad since 2013 does not fit into the screens smaller 1280x1024 or you will use external monitor
I guess i kinda want a good looking laptop

I am not the kind to break things. a laptop from years ago still exist, and my lenovo y50 from 2 years ago is still almost new (but i gave it to my brother, and it was too large/heavy for me to bring it to uni everyday)
Ghoti Aug 31, 2016 @ 10:49am 
Anyway i think i have my answer. I can probably do very basic 2d stuff with it, which is what i was planning to use it for other than research and word processing. I'm pretty sure it will be easy to transfer files from a laptop to my main desktop whenever i want to add materials and lights, and when i want to render my work
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