CPU Not Compatible With Motherboard.

[Pira]

I have a fx 8350 and my motherboard is MS-7641 I looked online and they said that it isn't compatible but it still somehow works but it only lets me play low demanding games but when I get to high demanding games my pc instantly crashes. Am I even supposed to be able to play any games?

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Początkowo opublikowane przez _I_:

zen is said to have a 40% ipc improvement over fx
that puts it closer to xeon territory than current 1150 skylake i5/i7

for heavily threaded tasks zen may be a better chioce
but some of the newer xeons are 10-20+ cores

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10585/unpacking-amds-zen-benchmark-is-zen-actually-2-faster-than-broadwell (http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-cpu-performance-double-fx-8350/)
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/amd-zen-cpu-ashes-of-the-singularity-benchmark-leaked.454822892/
http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-naples-soc-benchmarks/

Are the three benchmarks I've seen. The first one is the one AMD decided to show.
The later two aren't all that interesting or impressive as is and is still in line with the 40% increased IPC at-least for the middle one but we'll see what it actually become eventually.

http://seekingalpha.com/news/3214051-amd-collaborates-alibaba-cloud-shares-plus-4_5-percent
http://wccftech.com/amd-polaris-revisions-performance-per-watt/
http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-vega-11-magnum/

[vadim]

Everybody knows these links. You cannot get any hint about Zen performance from them. My collegues still believe Zen will be comparable with Sandy Bridge.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Until the Zen (AM4) Motherboards and CPUs are in the hands of reviewers; we won't have any real hard results (outside of what AMD is willing to share); leaked benchmarks are still from inside AMD, so I would not take that as hard evidence. Would you trust #s that only came from Intel alone? Of course not.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Początkowo opublikowane przez vadim:

Everybody knows these links. You cannot get any hint about Zen performance from them. My collegues still believe Zen will be comparable with Sandy Bridge.

This is totally off-topic but.

Pretty sure not "everyone" have seen the content on them.
40% IPC over FX-8350 could be seen as catching up with i7 2600K and 2700K, possibly.
And the Ashes of singularity and GeekBench benchmarks suggest poor performance / core.

On the other hand there's the CineBench one and the catching up in number of ALUs and FMAC / core to Intel. Someone at some time mentioned better than Broadwell but worse than Skylake too and if that would be / core then it would be just fine (on the other hand only interesting if it actually cost quite a bit less than the i7 6800K (rather really the 6900K) and X99 otherwise so what?)

If it just end up competing vs the i7 6700K then "eh", if it does give that performance for the price of an FX-8350 (assuming i7 7700K isn't much faster) then sure it's a great value alternative and a good buy but it's not really something worth waiting for all that much since the alternatives already exist. It's a pain for me since if I wait for it and it doesn't beat Intel in price / performance or performance then what did I wait for? On the other hand if I don't wait and it does beat Intel ...

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bad-Motha:

Until the Zen (AM4) Motherboards and CPUs are in the hands of reviewers; we won't have any real hard results (outside of what AMD is willing to share); leaked benchmarks are still from inside AMD, so I would not take that as hard evidence. Would you trust #s that only came from Intel alone? Of course not.

I would trust them for what they was (if they mentioned clock and the benchmark used I would trust it for that benchmark at that clock.)

[Generation X SMURF]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Etnopluralism / Aliquis:

Początkowo opublikowane przez OCeePC:

Yes Im clueless......

You still dont get your wot does nothing to justify your stance?

Your regurgitating crap the one on the know ALREADY know. Its like you sintel kiddies learn a bit about HW for a year after first PC and think you can teach something.

I'm 37 years old, my first computer was an MSX machine running on a Z80, I assume you may be 20+ years old but otherwise I would had started to program before you even existed. I've programmed Motorola 68000 and 6800 assembler, I've got a bechelor degree in computing science, I've run lots of Linux distributions, Free-, Open- and NetBSD, Solaris, QNX, hackintosh, OS X, have owned Sun Ultra 30s. I've followed computer / tech sites for 20 years. I'm curious and want to understand things and have tried to look up what's the difference in the design of Phenom, FX and Intel processors.

The only knowledge needed is to actually look at the numbers which is higher for the i3 than for the FX processor - it's like pre-school math which is needed for that.

Początkowo opublikowane przez OCeePC:

ANd all you know is that intel wins. Who says it doesnt? At least the old school intel fanbois have better arguments without a wot of crap. I dont post bs, I dont cherry pick. I tell you again, rigs are to be built on multiple factors if you are gaming. Depending on price rez and refresh rate of the monitor. If I build a 60 fps 1080p rig, what reason do I have? WHAT REASON is there to spend more on an intel cpu?

I3s doesn't cost more than FX. The reason to get an i5 or i7 is even better performance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PVlORur1cw
Enjoy.

This has never been about 1080p gaming or about what tier of processor to get but only about the FX vs i3.

Początkowo opublikowane przez OCeePC:

And no dont give me BS that yyou spout that an FX will bottleneck. No you are not showing a correct path, that is your delusion, you recommend an overkill CPU, more then enough with medicocre video. yet again what good reason to spend the extra 100 on cpu and not video?

An i5 is better than both an i3 and an FX-8300 series processor for gaming even in 1080 and even with mid-range graphics cards.

See Arma 3 above for example.

Początkowo opublikowane przez OCeePC:

PS: I see your response, LOL, you say "unless"" your already getting a gagrantuan titan1!!!

Since when does but if or what or unless count? UNLESS IM TRI FIRING FURYS!!!!

LMAO. What you resort do astonishes me lol

EDIT: Stop derailing plz, OP already has CPU, and just wants it to work with what he has, your WOT isnt gonna get him to run an buy a new one

I'm not telling him to get a new one I'm just informing him you're wrong (and you but you're not into a good enough condition to learn anything anyway.)

Why I didnt bother to read your wot, what makes you think I was talking to specifically you.

But thats ok,

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Początkowo opublikowane przez OCeePC:

Why I didnt bother to read your wot, what makes you think I was talking to specifically you.

But thats ok,

That you quoted me in your reply ..

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yea if you gonna quote someone, from a reply where that person quoted someone else; your reply will include both quotes (or whatever was in the post you are replying to) so edit out the person/quote you are not actually talking back towards for reply; it really helps.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bad-Motha:

Yea if you gonna quote someone, from a reply where that person quoted someone else; your reply will include both quotes (or whatever was in the post you are replying to) so edit out the person/quote you are not actually talking back towards for reply; it really helps.

It of course was directed to me he just want to argue that since I felt the need to defend my position I took it onto myself and hence it must be true which of course is unsound logic but what haven't been? Guess this thread is pretty much done since long though.