Memory compatibility for this system

[RJS]

Hey guys I got a used computer for pretty cheap to set up permanently with mostly old games while still handling newer stuff if something catches my eye. Don't game enough to justify 1k+ so don't laugh this thing rocks next to my old 2013 alienware laptop that ran 24/7 for 5 years and it's a workhorse I'm sure will do the same. I sorta miss the constant sound of the fans at night tho.

The best I can tell the main bottleneck if I'm looking for one is the RAM, the motherboard only does DDR3. I want to at least max it out at 32gb and it only has 2- 8gb now so I need either 2 more sticks of the exact same thing or 4 8x sticks of something else.

But- when I look up part number for installed RAM I get this-

Crucial 8gb Ddr3 Pc3-14900 Unbuffered Non-ecc 1.35v 1024meg X 64 - 8 Gb - Ddr3 Sdram - 1866 Mhz Ddr3-1866/pc3-14900 - 1.35 V - Non-ecc - Unbuffered - 240-pin - Dimm

When I look up compatible RAM I get this, slightly worse?-

Crucial RAM 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz CL11
ECC Type = Non-ECC, Form Factor = UDIMM, Pin Count = 240-pin, PC Speed = PC3-12800, Voltage = 1.35V/1.5V, Rank and Configuration = 2Rx8

Which should I get? Also is there ddr3 gaming RAM that would be very much better than plain old crucial? Graphics card is a GTX 1660 super which Ive read good things about as a match to this motherboard.


OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
Version 10.0.19044 Build 19044
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name
System Manufacturer To be filled by O.E.M.
System Model To be filled by O.E.M.
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU SKU
Processor AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor, 4013 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 2901, 5/4/2016
SMBIOS Version 2.7
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode Legacy
BaseBoard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
BaseBoard Product SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
BaseBoard Version Rev 1.xx
Platform Role Desktop
Secure Boot State Unsupported
PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.19041.1806"
User Name DESKTOP-H3VBMLG\
Time Zone
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 15.9 GB
Available Physical Memory 11.8 GB
Total Virtual Memory 18.8 GB
Available Virtual Memory 12.5 GB
Page File Space 2.88 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: TPM is not usable, PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and device is not Modern Standby, Un-allowed DMA capable bus/device(s) detected, TPM is not usable
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes

[RJS]

Origineel geplaatst door Freqsync:

Go by
Crucial 8gb Ddr3 Pc3-14900 Unbuffered Non-ecc
if anything comes up stating otherwise, don't

When I look up compatible for MB it shows me the 12800 sticks. But the 2 sticks already in it are 14900 and it's working unless the mobo is capping the bandwidth at the 12800 or something. So you're recommending I stick with those and get 2 more?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

OP; that Motherboard can run up to DDR3-2400 in Dual Channel.

1866 with lowest available CAS Timings are a really good sweet spot.

Another good thing to do with that config is go into the BIOS and Disable Turbo and Cool & Quiet. Then set the CPU Base Multiplier to 21.0X (4.2 Ghz)

You can buy more Crucial DDR3-1866 on Ebay.

[RJS]

Origineel geplaatst door Freqsync:

Recommend getting into the software problem having you believe you need more ram.

Thanks yall.
I'm not having any problems running anything, everything so far (total war series etc) is auto-selecting ultra and running like a dream. I had to manually set Skyrim to 60 fps to stop crazy glitches from game engine trying to run NPCs over 120 fps.

I've got operating system on smaller SSD and games installing on 2 tb drive

[76561198343548661]

Keep it as it is . I dont see any gain by increasing the RAM from 16GB to 32GB ! i have only 1 game that needs 12GB RAM and i know other 2 that need 12GB . For pure gaming purposes 16GB , at 1080p , is enough .

edit
FX 8350 is showing its age . For instance , i3 12100F is 87-105% faster but costs only 100 bucks . i guess the bottleneck comes from FX 8350

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yes, 16GB will be enough. By the time you need more then 16GB of RAM; you'll need a modern Motherboard + CPU since the AMD FX anything is extremely low end for running any games these days anyways. Even a Ryzen 1400 or 1600 would be a big step up above any FX-8 or 9 series CPU.

16GB + OS SSD + Games SSD and you should be fine as long as the games you play run well enough.

SSDs make more of a difference then installing more then 16GB of RAM.

[RJS]

"SSDs make more of a difference then installing more then 16GB of RAM."
That's what my thinking is starting to be.
Thanks everybody!

[Bad 💀 Motha]

It also might be helpful to make a fresh Einw0 usb flash drive and do a complete fresh install of the OS. You will have to rely on older Drivers for certain things though such as the AMD 9 series chipset driver from amd.com and the audio driver from Realtek website

[76561198343548661]

ssd cant be a priority in your case but the CPU

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Origineel geplaatst door smallcat:

ssd cant be a priority in your case but the CPU

I have one still as an extra PC with the same specs as the OP. It runs every game just fine. Even RDR2

OP would need a whole new build to change the CPU.

[RJS]

CPU might be older, but it's a beast and supposed to be a perfect fit for this mobo. So is the GPU. The only weak point on paper is the RAM limits or the hard drives but I haven't seen a prob with anything. I stripped the OS down of services and bloatware harder than OP's mom on a sunday morning sidewalk (another OP, not me) and have about decided to keep w10 instead of putting linux on it as originally intended.

[76561198343548661]

When my laptop is plugged in , Windows boot time is less due to CPU running at full speed . Dont overestimate that CPU . Keep in mind it has very low single core performance .

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well it's not like OP is trying to go PRO in CSGO with those specs. so I wouldn't worry that much about single-core performance. The games OP plays will run perfectly fine on it.

FX-8350 ran all the time at around 4.2Ghz is not far behind a 4770 and that does well still.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

These fx are so weird. They benchmark low but game high. I don't know any other CPU family that does this.

I have fx 9590 and same experience, runs every game really well, even new titles. I've found that with that setup the gtx 1650 gddr5 variant was perfect for it. The gtx 1070 was hard bottleneck so I imagine 1660 super is also hard bottleneck.

[Thesoxplace]

Origineel geplaatst door Bad 💀 Motha:

OP; that Motherboard can run up to DDR3-2400 in Dual Channel.

1866 with lowest available CAS Timings are a really good sweet spot.

Another good thing to do with that config is go into the BIOS and Disable Turbo and Cool & Quiet. Then set the CPU Base Multiplier to 21.0X (4.2 Ghz)

You can buy more Crucial DDR3-1866 on Ebay.

Can I point out, if his cooling solution he's using right now for that cpu is not enough he could kill the cpu? so unless people know how to over clock, dont tell them how to over clock, it's a learning process, just going in and throwing it to 4.2 could be unstable, we have no idea if the die is going to want to run at that speed.

my i7-5820k is at 4.5ghz stable since 2015, but I went full water cooling to do that.

[RJS]

Origineel geplaatst door smallcat:

When my laptop is plugged in , Windows boot time is less due to CPU running at full speed . Dont overestimate that CPU . Keep in mind it has very low single core performance .

It's quad core 8 logical?