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Saying something "may be there" isn't making a mountain out of a mole hill. But saying something is a "non-issue" is making a flat surface out of a mole hill.
The fact that people who will exaggerate a thing will always exist, and the fact that another thing was exaggerated and turned out to be nothing, aren't strong points that burn in is just a manufactured concern. The SSD comparison is a bit off anyway.
This you're right about from what I am hearing. Unfortunately, TVs aren't made to last anymore by the sounds of it. Though I... do remember hearing that said around the time I bought my TV compared to the times before then so I'm not sure if it's just a recurring claim or if things are way worse in that regard now.
But FWIW, my 13 year old TV is still going. It did need a replacement board a number of months ago if you want to count it as having initially failed there though.
its not uncommon for tvs and monitors to make it past 10 years if taken care of
There are various known methods to stop burn-in. Most popular is- just use a screen-saver so that a single image won't stick on your display for long time. Also, don't pause your games/ movies for prolonged duration at a time (like several hours). You get the point....
no matter what is displayed, the images can burn
moving images will be less noticeable since the burn is blurred
still elements will be more noticeable sooner
the only way to prevent it is to not use the display
LMAO. OK, sorry nice try. I would rather enjoy the greatest of an OLED, than not enjoy its greatness.
So, your telliing me that afer all the reviews I have read, and all the many thousands of people that have enjoyed an OLED without burn-in, that it is all ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. And no matter what burn-in will occur?
Yeah, I don't think so. I would rather use one and have a great experience, than not use one and wonder what could have been.
Burn-in occurs, it occurs. But I have a feeling I would be more than ok.
burn in will not be noticeable over a short amount of time
if you feel like buying a new display every week, go ahead
Dude, no offense, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I have read, and seen many, many reviews where they test the burn-in for quite an extensive period of time. Years even. And the consensus is, for these new displays, like the LG C1, C2, for normal use, burn-in is basically a non issue.
I even saw a video where someone tested a Nintendo Swtich OLED to see how long it would take for burn-in to set in. He left the Switch on 24/7 on a static image, and it took like 6 months for burn-in to set in. Conclusion, under normal use, burn-in would not have set in. At the very least taken years and years to set in.
Go out and look, there are many out there that have tested for years. OLED is really not an issue with the newer LGs. Even Linus who used one for a year, and not just for content consumption, but actual PC work, started seeing the static UI elements on screen start to burn-in. But that was after 1 year, and doing work with static UI elements. Yet still he was able to reset the display and remove the burn-in.
Bottom-line, if he was merely using it for content consumption, there probably wouldn't have been burn-in. However, the burn-in protection was actually pretty good. And he was able to reset the picture quality.
This is the funniest ♥♥♥♥ I have seen. What, you actually think burn-in would set in a week? A week? Hahahahaha, I knew there was a reason I had stopped coming on Steam forums for a while. What a joke!
So many haters and naysayers! "Don't get an OLED because I can't get one, and I don't want you to have a better experience gaming than me! Boo hoo!"
I think I will take the advice of the many, and I do mean many, trusted publications and individuals out there who have had fantastic experiences with these displays over randoms on Steam forums. Not to mention randoms that don't have the balls to show their profiles. LMAO.
Except for the burn in test I posted which covered nearly two years of testing...
You're kinda all over the place with the claims. Just yesterday you claimed OLED's would be good enough within the next year or so for you to consider burn in a non-issue. And now, what's this, you're doubling down on some petty contrary FUD because you don't like being disputed. Just sad man. If you're gonna pick a hill to die on, at least make it a good one...
Dude, we aren't just talking about the the LG C2 here. The LG OLED line has been out for much longer. The LG C1, and CX, including the A, B, and G line have all been out for much longer. If anything, the burn-in protection on the LG C2 would better than those.
Go do some research. Plenty of articles and videos online that test the burn-in on these displays. Even Alienware covers their display for 3 years, burn-in and everything. I highly doubt they would cover burn-in for three years if they felt every display was going to have have burn-in within the first year, let alone weeks.
LG's OLEDs, and Samsung's QD-OLED technology, have come a long way and have extensive burn-in protection. The reviews for these panels are very high. Everyone states how great it is to play games on them. Not just PS5/Xbox Series, but PC gaming as well.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2507-lg-c2-monitor/
This here says it all:
"At 120Hz there's no better panel type than an OLED for gaming. The results are far superior to LCD competitors, which makes the LG C2 an excellent choice for PC and especially console gaming that will often be making use of the 120Hz mode. At 60Hz the LG C2 is also far and away better than other monitors, with the exception of fellow OLEDs which all deliver roughly equivalent performance."
"Input latency is low with the C2, although you'll have to set up the display in a specific way to benefit, including using the game optimizer mode and setting the low input lag mode to boost. In that configuration, the C2 has less than 1ms of processing delay and is what I'd recommend for gaming, although the lag is much longer in other modes. This is similar to the LG C1 also configured in this way, and less lag than many other HDR monitors."
Compared to other LCD PC gaming monitors, there is just no comparison. OLED is the real deal. Just look at how it performs versus the competition. I'll take the risk of burn-in, and take every precaution in the book for a taste of next-gen.
And there definitely is a risk of burn-in. Especially with regular PC use. So, if this were used exclusively as a PC monitor, it might not be a good idea. But if you plan on using it for a varied assortment of content consumption, like I am, such as TV, movies, etc, it might not be that big a deal. But if you wan an OLED strictly as a PC monitor, the Alienware might have better protections in place.
This is what Techspot had to say:
"Before discussing HDR on the LG C2, it's worth discussing the permanent burn in risk associated with OLED displays. This is one of the major drawbacks that prevents the C2 from being well suited to desktop use, along with its low brightness. Desktop usage frequently includes viewing static images, whether that's the taskbar or just general application windows like the navigation bar in Google Chrome. These all present a risk of burn in, as static content is bad for an OLED.
How long it will take to burn in the display when using it as a desktop monitor is not something we can answer, and it will take a while to figure that out even with 24/7 usage. But we would expect that with normal PC desktop application use, the C2 will burn in faster than if you were just using the display for content consumption like movies or games. We've seen several reports that suggest with long periods of static desktop app usage, LG OLEDs can burn in rather quickly.
There are some mitigation strategies in place, some of which the C2 activates on its own and some that you can do yourself. For example, the C2 implements pixel shifting and logo dimming to improve the lifespan of the TV, and dims the entire panel when long periods of static content is detected. However, we found the pixel shift feature annoying as it can cut off vital information from the desktop at times, depending on where the image is shifted to, so that might need to be disabled for desktop use, further hurting burn in. We'd also recommend some adjustments in Windows, like using a dark mode, enabling screen savers, and setting the taskbar to automatically hide."
Zeek, I love you, I really hope you enjoy your upcoming display. You too Snakub. My intention was never to state you two will personally have issues, or that you shouldn't make make OLED your choice because of burn-in. Not at all my stance (my real stance is I hope burn in gets dealt with as it did with CRT because I gave my CRT up crying because LCD just isn't so great in many regards). My main point for posting was because it's not a Black or White only issue but it's seemingly being presented as one, and I do have a problem with that because that's dishonest at best, dangerous information to someone who doesn't know better at worst. In reality, it's going to depend on some factors. It's at a point where there are measures in place (pixel shift, pixel dimming, screensavers, etc.) that stave it off, and varied content staves it off, so it's "good enough" for many TV-centric uses, and even then that might depend on your specific content, as well as what your criteria is for how long you want it to last. But those measures have their drawbacks (I imagine pixel shift would be incredibly annoying on a PC display, for example), and other uses (again, PC use in general) are more susceptible to the effect of burn-in.
The fact that I'm NOT going to use it as a monitor not withstanding, the TV itself used for varied content is absolutely amazing! Honestly, I've not seen such inky blacks since the good old CRT days.
I watched an episode of Star Wars Obi-Wan on it yesterday and I was blown away!
I also tried the Series X version of Cyberpunk 2077 and Call of Duty Black Ops and was equally blown away.
I've got plenty of disposable income at the moment. If this TV lasts 3-4 years, so be it.