Obsessive Power 4 AGO 2022 a las 12:26 p. m.
A question of OLED
Okay so I will soon be getting an LG C2 42" OLED TV. I'm just a little concerned about OLED Burn in risks.

Just to be clear, I DO NOT INTEND TO USE IT AS A STANDALONE MONITOR. It will be used for my Series X and to play some PC games. General PC use will remain with my main PC monitor. So hardly any browsing or apps, just games.

I understand that with 'varied content, it should be fine, right?

Anyone here use an OLED for gaming?
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Guydodge 6 AGO 2022 a las 4:02 a. m. 
burn in is real ..period.the monitor will get it.not a question of will but when.if you
can live with that buy..otherwise steer clear.they are throw away monitors no ones
going to buy a used OLED with burn in.
Última edición por Guydodge; 6 AGO 2022 a las 4:05 a. m.
ZeekAncient 6 AGO 2022 a las 5:02 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:
You may not know this but not all deaf like me can stand 60 hz monitor. 120 hz or high quality 60 hz monitor is the only comfortable. So does 120 hz native TV.

The LG C1 and C2 are native 120HZ monitors. The Alienware I was talking about, and considering, is 175Hz.
ZeekAncient 6 AGO 2022 a las 5:14 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Obsessive Power:
Why all the arguing?

The fact that I'm NOT going to use it as a monitor not withstanding, the TV itself used for varied content is absolutely amazing! Honestly, I've not seen such inky blacks since the good old CRT days.

I watched an episode of Star Wars Obi-Wan on it yesterday and I was blown away!

I also tried the Series X version of Cyberpunk 2077 and Call of Duty Black Ops and was equally blown away.

I've got plenty of disposable income at the moment. If this TV lasts 3-4 years, so be it.

So, which TV did you buy? Was it the LG C2? And how big was it? And I still don't understand people, obviously there is a risk of burn-in, but those stating that it will get burn-in and it is a closed issue, are dismissing the many thousands of people that have been using OLEDs for years and haven't gotten burn-in. Doesn't mean that some don't, but come on.

It seems to me like a lot of jealousy. People don't want others using OLEDs because they know how amazing it is and why a lot of companies are going to them for their displays. You can't get an OLED, or you don't want one, fine, but don't make generalized statements when you just don't know. Making a statement like, "It will get burn-in, period, that is all there is too it," is so juvenile. I mean come on. What will you say when burn-in doesn't occur?

Like I said, Samsung's QD-OLED tech has come a long way. That is what is being used in the Alienware display. Now this is a PC monitor, and not a TV. So, Alienware knows people will use it for general PC use, and not just varied content consumption. Yet, they seem pretty confident in their burn-in protection.
Obsessive Power 6 AGO 2022 a las 5:42 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Guydodge:
burn in is real ..period.the monitor will get it.not a question of will but when.if you
can live with that buy..otherwise steer clear.they are throw away monitors no ones
going to buy a used OLED with burn in.

Great, but I'm NOT USING IT AS A MONITOR so....
Obsessive Power 6 AGO 2022 a las 5:47 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por ZeekAncient:

So, which TV did you buy? Was it the LG C2? And how big was it?

LG C2, it's the 42" model. It was around £1100 with shipping. It's going to be used for varied content, I might even play some PC games on, but I will not use it as a PC monitor. There really is no need. I already have a Gigabyte M32U as a PC monitor.
Illusion of Progress 6 AGO 2022 a las 6:55 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Obsessive Power:
Publicado originalmente por Guydodge:
burn in is real ..period.the monitor will get it.not a question of will but when.if you
can live with that buy..otherwise steer clear.they are throw away monitors no ones
going to buy a used OLED with burn in.

Great, but I'm NOT USING IT AS A MONITOR so....
Then you got your answer. I'm a bit confused as to why you asked to begin with though if your follow up comment clarified you don't mind treating it as disposable. The thread sort of wasn't needed then.

The arguing that occurred was because there were statements made that burn-in isn't ever an issue, and when those claims were challenged, it seems those people took it as an attack on OLED in general and broadened their counter argument. At least that's how it seemed to play out to me.
ZeekAncient 6 AGO 2022 a las 7:11 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Illusion of Progress:
Publicado originalmente por Obsessive Power:

Great, but I'm NOT USING IT AS A MONITOR so....
Then you got your answer. I'm a bit confused as to why you asked to begin with though if your follow up comment clarified you don't mind treating it as disposable. The thread sort of wasn't needed then.

The arguing that occurred was because there were statements made that burn-in isn't ever an issue, and when those claims were challenged, it seems those people took it as an attack on OLED in general and broadened their counter argument. At least that's how it seemed to play out to me.

I for one, definitely did not say that burn-in was not an issue. But I don't think you were referring to me, lol. I clearly stated that it was a risk, and it depended on your use of the display. I also stated that not all OLEDs are created equal, or even use the same technology, which could be a factor.

However, I kind of did take offense to those who claimed, without much evidence or precedence, that burn-in would occur no matter what. In a short period of time. That clearly isn't the case, and has been proven by the many of who have bought OLEDs in the past, and have done extensive testing online. Sure, it can occur. And in certain conditions, probably will occur, like using the display as a primary PC monitor for work purposes. But that also doesn't mean that it WILL occur.

I for one have been in the market for a new display for awhile now, and am really stuck in a crossroads. I really want an awesome display that will look amazing, next gen if you will, something that will surpass the LCD gaming monitors I have had in the past. And I want something relatively big and something that I can also use as a TV. Something I will stream shows and movies on. When I do research, my conclusions tell me to get an OLED. Then threads like this pop up, and so many non-OLED users come on to tell you your foolish.

I think my best bet is to go with an OLED. Try to get one on sale if I can. Enjoy the glorious picture quality and HDR. Then, if burn-in occurs, I can use it as a lesson learned. They were right. Then, if doesn't occur, more power to me. I would be using the screen for a wide range of content like streaming shows and movies, as well as having my PC hooked up to it, for playing games and everyday PC use.
Última edición por ZeekAncient; 6 AGO 2022 a las 7:11 a. m.
Illusion of Progress 6 AGO 2022 a las 7:16 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por ZeekAncient:
I for one, definitely did not say that burn-in was not an issue. But I don't think you were referring to me, lol.
I wasn't, and again, sorry if I wasn't clear. My comment was just trying to summarize why the arguing started since OP asked about it.

Edit: And no, you're not foolish if you have decided you want OLED. If you want OLED, and you're willing to pay the asking price and take said risk, there's no reason NOT to get one. I wish I could get one, but cost and longevity (I tend to try and use them for as long as they last) are concerns for me. My sole reason for posting wasn't to tell anyone here not to get OLED. I only posted here to contest a claim that made burn-in sound like some false, purely manufactured thing.
Última edición por Illusion of Progress; 6 AGO 2022 a las 7:20 a. m.
_I_ 6 AGO 2022 a las 9:10 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Obsessive Power:
Publicado originalmente por Guydodge:
burn in is real ..period.the monitor will get it.not a question of will but when.if you
can live with that buy..otherwise steer clear.they are throw away monitors no ones
going to buy a used OLED with burn in.

Great, but I'm NOT USING IT AS A MONITOR so....
it will still burn, just be less noticeable as long as there are not many static images displayed on it

you can reduce burn amount by turning down brightness, and spread/blur burn by using image shift
ZeekAncient 6 AGO 2022 a las 7:48 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por _I_:
Publicado originalmente por Obsessive Power:

Great, but I'm NOT USING IT AS A MONITOR so....
it will still burn, just be less noticeable as long as there are not many static images displayed on it

you can reduce burn amount by turning down brightness, and spread/blur burn by using image shift

Strange, I have been doing some research online about burn-in. Here, on the Steam forums, a couple people are stating that burn-in WILL occur. No matter what.

Yet, what I am reading online states that burn-in on the new OLEDs is not that common, and is based on how you use it. And occurs from static images that stay on the screen too long.

These displays have brightness dimming features that dim the screen if a static image is detected and also screen image shifting technologies that shift the image to prevent static images.

There are a plenty of videos and articles. But here is an easy read that explains it:

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/273411/20220323/oled-burn-big-problem-anymore-heres-why.htm

So, I think it is time for me to experience a visual upgrade to my media like I've never seen before. Don't get too jealous when I finally by one, lol. Cheers!.
Última edición por ZeekAncient; 6 AGO 2022 a las 7:50 p. m.
Guydodge 7 AGO 2022 a las 1:02 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Obsessive Power:
Publicado originalmente por Guydodge:
burn in is real ..period.the monitor will get it.not a question of will but when.if you
can live with that buy..otherwise steer clear.they are throw away monitors no ones
going to buy a used OLED with burn in.

Great, but I'm NOT USING IT AS A MONITOR so....
doesnt matter TV,monitor same thing maybe slower degrading but still going to happen.
believe what you want its a candle burning.
Última edición por Guydodge; 7 AGO 2022 a las 1:05 a. m.
Obsessive Power 7 AGO 2022 a las 1:36 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Guydodge:
Publicado originalmente por Obsessive Power:

Great, but I'm NOT USING IT AS A MONITOR so....
doesnt matter TV,monitor same thing maybe slower degrading but still going to happen.
believe what you want its a candle burning.

Great, when it dies I'll buy a new one. Honestly, it just sounds like you're being jealous. Not sure if you are not, perhaps you're not, but it sure sounds like you are.
clean 7 AGO 2022 a las 1:40 a. m. 
idk i dont own one
Obsessive Power 7 AGO 2022 a las 1:41 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por ZeekAncient:
Publicado originalmente por _I_:


Yet, what I am reading online states that burn-in on the new OLEDs is not that common, and is based on how you use it. And occurs from static images that stay on the screen too long.

These displays have brightness dimming features that dim the screen if a static image is detected and also screen image shifting technologies that shift the image to prevent static images.

I think screen burn is inevitable at some point. When it becomes apparent to the user (or me) is going be hard to say, only usage and time will tell. I did my research, I'm under no allusion that burn in is 'none issue'. In later models down the line it will likely be a none issue, but not yet.

The latest C2 also has its own auto pixel cleaner which automatically launches every four hours of use once the display goes into standby. Of course, this will be of little use if you turn the TV off at the mains (I don't intend to). Also, there is only so many times you can clean the pixels.

I decided to buy one because the technology now seems to be more stable but not perfect and the price was good for me. The price probably won't be good for everyone though.

If worried about cost, want to use a bigger screen as a monitor, QLED would probably be a better option. They are pretty much immune to burn-in.
Última edición por Obsessive Power; 7 AGO 2022 a las 1:53 a. m.
ZeekAncient 7 AGO 2022 a las 5:42 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Guydodge:
Publicado originalmente por Obsessive Power:

Great, but I'm NOT USING IT AS A MONITOR so....
doesnt matter TV,monitor same thing maybe slower degrading but still going to happen.
believe what you want its a candle burning.

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/273411/20220323/oled-burn-big-problem-anymore-heres-why.htm
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