Dwight Hut Pizza 2 AGO 2022 a las 4:57 p. m.
Worth Upgrading from 3070 to 3080 or Wait for 40 Series?
Now that GPU prices are back down I was considering upgrading to a 3080 just because of the performance increase when playing 4K especially. Though now that there is news of the 40 series possibly launching soon is it best to wait for those to come out to upgrade? The only problem I have with the 40 series is that from what I heard they are possibly gonna require 1000W PSUs which means I'd also have to upgrade that which I don't really want to do.
Publicado originalmente por ZeekAncient:
I would wait. Unless prices go down even further, the performance increase from a 3070 to a 3080 wouldn't be worth it. Even at 4K.

I was thinking the same. I have a 3070 Ti, and looking at prices, was thinking of getting a 3080 12GB. That might make it worth it over the 3080 10GB. A little bit more performance. Especially at 4K. And no need to upgrade PSU. Currently have an EVGA 750 GT.

However, when the new GPUs come out, you might find that the need for a really powerful PSU might have been greatly exaggerated. The 4090, and even the 4080, might need a beefy PSU, but the 4070, and 4070 Ti(whenever that comes out) might not need a 1000w PSU. And from what I am hearing, a 4070 might have 3090 like performance. But who knows.

If you do get a 3080 however, I would try for the 12GB version, especially for 4K, and try to sell the 3070. That might make it worth it. That is what I will do if I end up by getting a 3080 12GB. Sell my 3070 Ti. Only thing is, is that I feel I will definitely have buyers remorse when the new cards come out. After all, the 30 series is 2 years old.
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ZeekAncient 2 AGO 2022 a las 5:34 p. m. 
I would wait. Unless prices go down even further, the performance increase from a 3070 to a 3080 wouldn't be worth it. Even at 4K.

I was thinking the same. I have a 3070 Ti, and looking at prices, was thinking of getting a 3080 12GB. That might make it worth it over the 3080 10GB. A little bit more performance. Especially at 4K. And no need to upgrade PSU. Currently have an EVGA 750 GT.

However, when the new GPUs come out, you might find that the need for a really powerful PSU might have been greatly exaggerated. The 4090, and even the 4080, might need a beefy PSU, but the 4070, and 4070 Ti(whenever that comes out) might not need a 1000w PSU. And from what I am hearing, a 4070 might have 3090 like performance. But who knows.

If you do get a 3080 however, I would try for the 12GB version, especially for 4K, and try to sell the 3070. That might make it worth it. That is what I will do if I end up by getting a 3080 12GB. Sell my 3070 Ti. Only thing is, is that I feel I will definitely have buyers remorse when the new cards come out. After all, the 30 series is 2 years old.
Última edición por ZeekAncient; 2 AGO 2022 a las 5:36 p. m.
Bad 💀 Motha 2 AGO 2022 a las 6:42 p. m. 
Yes unless it is a serious MUST that you get a GPU right now, I would wait.
The release of any RTX 40 series may force whatever current RTX 30 series are left to drop further. And rumors suggest that even a 4070 might rival the performance of 3090 for a cheaper price tag. So we'll have to wait and see. However the 4090 is going to release first; with 4080 and 4070 to follow but each of those GPU releases could each be approx one to one and a half months apart from each other. Rumors also suggest that the 4090 will release right away in two basic varients; a 450W model and a 600W model.

Another reason to wait because YOU MIGHT need a newer, modern, more beefy PSU to handle any of the RTX 40 series GPUs. Unless you already have one that is new or not too old that could handle the power required by 3090 or 3090 Ti
Última edición por Bad 💀 Motha; 2 AGO 2022 a las 6:44 p. m.
🦜Cloud Boy🦜 3 AGO 2022 a las 1:56 a. m. 
Sell your RTX 3070 and buy 3080.
3080 is 30% faster than 3070 at 4k, if you need the extra performance.

You won't get your hands on the RTX 4070 for at least 4 to 6 months from now. And nobody knows what will be the pricing and availability.
Schrute_Farms_B&B 3 AGO 2022 a las 3:42 a. m. 
Zeek has a point but Cloud Boy has point, too. (I know, unreal....)

First of all, the difference from a 3070/6750XT to a 3080/6800XT is huge, even bigger on higher resolutions.
3080/3090(6800XT/6900XT) are the only GPUs you want to use for 4K gaming, if you put value on playing AAA games on more or less, max settings.

However, the upcoming gen is going to make a splash, no doubt about it but what about the availibility though. Thats an aspect to think about, when you take a look on Crypto currency, which can still be mined on GPUs.
Im talking Ravencoin, ETH Classic, Ergo, Flux, etc.

Nobody knows what happens after the release of ETH2, but I wouldnt expect the best possible outcome. People are sitting on them mining-rigs (me as well), especially the leading mining factories and they are not willing to give up yet. Why you think is that ? ^^

The market has been flooded with unused RX6000 and RTX3000 cards and people are already ditching their new GPUs to brace themselves for upcoming generation.
Even without a second GPU mining boom, Id say chances to get your hands on a RTX 4000 card right after release (or up to 6-12 months), are very slim up to impossible, to put it positively.......Not even mentioning the price. Expect 2-3x MSRP for starters.

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My opinion ?
Wait until the release of ETH2 and decide for yourself if you want to take the risk of waiting for a RX 4000 card.
Última edición por Schrute_Farms_B&B; 3 AGO 2022 a las 3:45 a. m.
Bad 💀 Motha 3 AGO 2022 a las 6:10 a. m. 
Or get a 3080 Ti; which is basically a 3090 with less VRAM.
Well worth every penny, especially at these lowered prices.
I had to way many weeks in a queue system to get a 3080 Ti; one from EVGA and one from MicroCenter. This was at release time; one was $1299 and the other was $1399 (different brand + model). So that both my wife and I could each have one.

They are around $999 now. Very decent pricing considering the launch MSRP. And then considering how ridiculous the pricing got after they ran out after launch and you were stuck with seeing 3080 Ti for for like $2000 or more.

Especially with most 3080 going for around the $800 range or so; I would just grab a 3080 Ti instead. And I have used each one of the RTX 30 series personally; so I'm not just saying to grab a 3080 Ti because that's all I have or have tried. I've tried them all, except 3090 Ti which I have no need for. 3080 Ti could easily last you til RTX 50 or 60 series; whatever they come out with 1 or 2 gens down the road.
Última edición por Bad 💀 Motha; 3 AGO 2022 a las 6:11 a. m.
Dwight Hut Pizza 3 AGO 2022 a las 6:57 a. m. 
Think I may just upgrade and possibly upgrade to a 3080 TI like Bad Motha suggests. I could wait for the 40 series but seems there is a good chance a repeat of the 30 series launch could happen. Though, just in case I might wait a little longer before I make a final decision. Luckily, I have a friend who is willing to buy my 3070 so at least I'm getting some value back from it once I do upgrade.
Schrute_Farms_B&B 3 AGO 2022 a las 7:07 a. m. 
Good decision.
Im gonna get me some Pizza Hut now. Not joking.
Dwight Hut Pizza 3 AGO 2022 a las 7:11 a. m. 
I approve lol
Bad 💀 Motha 3 AGO 2022 a las 8:29 a. m. 
:Quiet: Nods in approval :approved: :cozybethesda:
Vince ✟ 3 AGO 2022 a las 10:55 a. m. 
The jump is quite large in performance. You'll be pleased
ZeekAncient 3 AGO 2022 a las 11:42 a. m. 
Man, with the prices the way they are now, I was thinking of jumping on that 3080 Ti train. However, at first I was just thinking of making the jump to a 3080 12GB. The 3080 12 GB and 3080 Ti aren't all that far off in performance. And the 3080 12GB recommended PSU is a 750w, and the 3080 Ti is an 850w.

If I went for a 3080 Ti, you think my EVGA SuperNova 750w GT Gold would be powerful enough. Currently have a 10700KF at stock, but most likely will be giving it an OC sometime. Whenever I actually decide to order that 360mm Rad AIO.

Past few months I have been so busy, with work, my kid, and other responsibilities that I put my PC, and gaming on the back burner. I have still been gaming, but the games I have been playing are not necessarily on Steam. I also game with Xbox(PC) Gamepass, Origin(EA Play Pro), and Epic. Oh yeah, not to mention the Rockstar Games Launcher. Can't stand it. But that is where I have RDR2, GTA 4, and GTA Trilogy. I bought GTA 5 on Steam, but for some reason ended up getting RDR2 exclusively through the Rockstar. Either way you have to use their god awful launcher. Yuck!

3 months ago I had big plans. I was going to get a new display, a 360mm Rad AIO, maybe some more storage. Summer hit and been working so much that I didn't do any of it. Now I am thinking about getting a new GPU. Still want to get a new display but can't decide on which one. Am I going back to 3440 x 1440 Ultrawide, 4K, do I really want OLED, or is an IPS screen good enough. I still can't decide which AIO I want. Now GPU prices are getting really low and tempting. Plus, AMD's Zen 4 line is about to release in a little over a month and I might just upgrade my CPU/platform then. Maybe I should wait for Raptor Lake at least. But I really want to wait till Meteor Lake. Ahhhhh, so many tough decisions.
Última edición por ZeekAncient; 3 AGO 2022 a las 11:45 a. m.
ZeekAncient 3 AGO 2022 a las 11:49 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Bug:
Prices are better, but don't let the last couple of years create the illusion that you're getting a good deal. If you have a mid-range 3000 card or a high end 2000 card I'd wait it out.

EVGA 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming. And I was lucky and got a card that overclocks really well. A good ways past the factory overclock. Still no 3080, but if you look at my 3DMark scores, and take it from me, my gaming benchmarks, it is a lot better than your average 3070 Ti.
Illusion of Progress 3 AGO 2022 a las 3:16 p. m. 
Buy now if you like the asking price for the offered performance, or wait if you don't and don't need an uplift yet.

I was actually asking a similar question not long ago. I'm normally a mid-range buyer, but the mid-range has been in such a mediocre spot (price increases, and poor value, namely) since after Pascal. So I was considering waiting for an RTX 4070 or seeing what happens with the RTX 4060s, or getting the RTX 3080 now. The latter would be less waiting, although the RTX 4070 is surely to be faster, and likely cheaper even with potential MSRP increase fears. And given I'd be looking towards September-ish before I had saved as much, and that's around when I think nVidia is expected to have their key note or whatever announcement, I figured I'd wait for that and more solidify which route I'm going. I was leaning towards getting sooner but now I think I might end up waiting.
Publicado originalmente por Dwight Hut Pizza:
Think I may just upgrade and possibly upgrade to a 3080 TI like Bad Motha suggests. I could wait for the 40 series but seems there is a good chance a repeat of the 30 series launch could happen.
Very unlikely. The biggest contributor that led to that occurring was Etherium spiking in value and becoming much more profitable, and in a very short time frame. Of course, never say never, as they say, and it's not impossible, but I don't expect that to happen in the same fashion.

And, while they weren't as big of factors, you did have other issues that are also unlikely to repeat.

MSRP could be up a bit (inflation being a key factor), and the new cards themselves will be hard to get at the very start. The latter is almost always the case on launch. But neither of those mean the same thing is occurring. It's very unlikely we see the graphics card market as a whole become that upset for a year and a half like like last time. A lot of stuff would not only have to go "wrong" but way wrong for that to occur.
Última edición por Illusion of Progress; 3 AGO 2022 a las 3:17 p. m.
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