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I was in the market, but then other financial obligations came up. Am I a hypocrite? No, doesn't apply. People change their minds, doesn't have to be a reason. You're allowed to change your mind.
Your job, your kids, your rent, your mortgage. And some just like to kvetch about anything.
For what it's worth, I read far more often that people are glad the prices came down like they did.
But Nvidia has an oversupply of GPUs, and they are desperate to move them before the next generation drops. So, we should see GPUs of the 30 series get quite below their MSRPs. In fact, Nvidia is going to bring their RTX 3080 12GB back into production. They had recently ceased production of this GPU. Apparently they have quite a few GA104 boards, which the 3080 is built on, that they want to get rid of.
The former group was largely comprised of people participating in the cryptocurrency market and/or those with excess funds to spend.
The rest were either unwilling or straight up unable to afford a GPU at those prices. The latter are also comprised by those displeased with continually rising GPU prices in the last few years and not just starting with the latest cryptocurrency bubble a year and a half ago. So just because it came down relative to an enormous bubble a year ago doesn't mean everyone should find pricing now where they desire it to be.
That's how free markets work. If the consumer doesn't find the prices low enough, they don't get it, and thus sales drop. And, that's exactly what has been happening since Ethereum lost value, and I say good riddance with how nVidia has been gloating to investors before then about how their researching found that many consumers were spending many hundreds more on an RTX replacement than the one they were replacing originally cost.
You're choosing to see hypocrisy where there is none. Hypocrisy is when a single person has one stance but at the same time acts in the way of another to contradict it. The wider consumer market is anything but one person. Pretty much any market is always going to be filled with different opinions. And if you think there weren't MORE people complaining about prices a year ago, you were choosing not to pay attention, because there was definitely a lot more of it. The fact that some people chose to buy anyway does not mean there was no complaining then.
Because PC gamers act and buy hardware in unison and otherwise always agree on what's best and when it's best?
Pretty much anything but entry level is out of the price range of the average PC gamer. Who's supposed to be thrilled about that?
I just bought a 3080 ti for $1,000. 2012 me is choking on his Coke at the idea.
You think you can criticize anyone into changing their tune? Good luck.
sorry, but thats not how supply and demand works, the less people are buying and the more overstock they have, the price goes down.
price just doesnt "increase regardless".
btw, most people dont have tons of money to throw away, most people want to buy stuff when its at average or lower price, not just toss it away when prices are artificially high because of some crypto nonsense, or w/e.
Sorry, the newest RX6600 and chill.
At least it is cheaper than before
It's a hobby and some people consider it very important to have something and are willing to spend more money if the situation turns out to be that way. The only problem we have right now is corporate interest in abusing that. We have to see how that turns out. Especially during a time where some people struggle with their monthly bills.
Considering the GPU market is going to be super-saturated with cards from miners, stores can't even sell inventory, the entire PC market is stagnating, etc. -- consumers should refuse to pay the prices of yesteryear or even initial MSRP as the GPUs are no longer worth such.
Nvidia for example has over 5-6 billion USD in GPU chips from the 3000 series they had better find a way to get rid of (or repurpose as lower end 4000) before the 4000 series launches or they will have to lower prices or delay the launch.
These companies were greedy and enjoying the price of hardware increasing, and now that hardware is stabilizing and/or losing value it's the consumer that is the hypocrite for refusing to pay "lower" prices still above MSRP or where they should actually be?
Also, "inflation is skyrocketing" means there is even less of a market for GPU purchases and other non-essentials and that demand is way lower than it should be, evidenced by the numerous and desperate sales on GPUs, laptops, and other hardware before the end of the next quarter.
Off the mark.
Only the RTX 4090 may launch this year instead of the more expected RTX 4080 and RTX 4070 along with them.
Additionally, the higher end SKUs (like the RTX 3070 Ti or RTX 3080 and above) have all been getting price discounts because those are the models that (likely) largely make up most of the current supply they are sitting on.
nVidia went and made a disproportionate amount of higher end GPUs because in a cryptocurrency driven market, demand is infinite and anything will sell, and when that infinite demand went away because of Ethereum crashing, they were left "holding the bag" as they say.
I mean, I don't blame them. They ARE a highly valuable publicly traded company and maximizing revenue, regardless of it it "upsets consumers" is what they are going to do. That's the system at large rather than nVidia exclusively.
On the other hand, as a mere consumer, the idea that "we" (the traditional GPU market, meaning sans the cryptocurrency) are seemingly expected to just up consumption to compensate for the fact that it isn't as sky high when cryptocurrency isn't impacting things. I don't know if OP is just sincerely asking why there's complaints following price drops, when yesteryear GPUs were all selling regardless of price. If one doesn't understand the modern GPU market (namely, the "cryptocurrency being profitable means infinite demand of GPUs" part), it's probably an easy thing to be confused by, after all. I can't tell you how many times I tried to explain it on these very forums, sometimes to people who would proclaim to others that they had good understanding of supply and demand and market senses, yet... couldn't grasp that part at all (or at least admit it).
But part of me was irked this seemed like some sort of "why don't you just consume like you just did yesteryear, it's hypocrisy if you don't" thing. I might be wrong, I probably am wrong, I HOPE I am wrong, but... it did sort of make me wonder that. I can only imagine nVidia HAS to be frustrated right now and would LOVE the gaming community to just magically pick up and consume to keep the profit levels an on-again, off-again cryptocurrency market brings them. So they dabble in that and then just lash out at gamers for not being an infinite consumption machine (worse, because they consider cryptocurrency part of the consumer or "gaming" market, the gaming market gets blamed for these "losses"). Really rubs me wrong. Not saying OP was making this thread with that motive, but either way.
I understand this. On the other hand, the crypto market is falling in part due to China's banning it (did you see some of those farms, it gives me a headache) due to climate change/pollution. So yes, it may be infinite but on a smaller scale now and contingent on there still being a profit margin in mining. So NV will do a sneaky about-face and woo the gamer again.
As for all its products, that's NV's problem. The consumer has a voice after all,, provided it's multitudes in unison. A billion-dollar quarterly loss is a big number. I feel like AMD is more open to consumers than NV ever was.
But if someone asked me what gpu would I get, I would say NVIDIA. I dunno. I like the product but dislike the corporation. Is that hypocrisy?
Think about it, if something is banned somewhere, you just abstain from doing it there. Ethereum itself was still highly profitable when China banned it. China banning mining might have hurt the "smaller businesses" ("smaller business" in this case being the lone individual Chinese citizen mining at home) but that just means the bigger operations either go underground and/or move to another country. Which is exactly what happened. You mostly saw the Chinese farms because they make news when they get caught. There's nothing to report on farms in other countries if they aren't illegal. And there was definitely an upward trend of farms in the U.S. and I think a few European countries in particular, but mostly the rest of the world just saw an increase to take on the operations China wouldn't allow.
Also, the "infinite demand" refers to earlier, not now. The profitability of Ethereum isn't presently anywhere near as high (plus it is set to, for the dozenth time, go proof of stake as opposed to proof of work, but we'll see if it actually does). Right now it's "back" to being a "traditional" market, or rather one with finite demand that has saturation points. And the high end is typically far smaller and is probably already saturated, yet that is the tier of product nVidia is mostly sitting on. So yes nVidia has a task ahead of them for sure.
As for nVidia itself, I don't like them but I don't hate them. I admit I tend to look at their GPUs by default, despite looking at AMD and Intel more evenly when it comes to CPUs. But I'm not against considering AMD for GPUs; just that I lean more towards nVidia. But nVidia did what a business was expected to during those times, so I don't have much "hate" for them but I also don't "like" the recent situations with the GPU market, but that's more down to cryptocurrency than anything else so I do have a rather high dislike of that.