hypehype (已封鎖) 2022 年 9 月 6 日 上午 6:54
Graphics card price has finally come down to retail price
Just seen a few rtx 3070 selling at £500 brand new, (won't be buying)

Looks like with the crypto crash+energy prices hike, no one will be mining.

Will you be buying a rtx 3xxxx? If not why?

My reason to not buy is I want to see what the rtx 4xxx can do+ I want the sclapers/miners to suffer.
最後修改者:hypehype; 2022 年 9 月 8 日 上午 1:45
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nullable 2022 年 9 月 6 日 上午 7:09 
I bought a 3080 ti once they broke $1000. I'll probably buy a 4080 if the performance increase is sufficient and hand-me-down the 3080 ti to the wife. So for me, why not both?

If someone needs a GPU now, a newly reduced 30 series card would be fine. It won't run worse once the 40 series is released. And it'll last until the 50 series is released, easily. Nothing wrong with waiting if you're able to though.
N0REGARD4LIFE 2022 年 9 月 6 日 下午 1:28 
引用自 Snakub Plissken
I bought a 3080 ti once they broke $1000. I'll probably buy a 4080 if the performance increase is sufficient and hand-me-down the 3080 ti to the wife. So for me, why not both?

If someone needs a GPU now, a newly reduced 30 series card would be fine. It won't run worse once the 40 series is released. And it'll last until the 50 series is released, easily. Nothing wrong with waiting if you're able to though.
I have a 3080 but am tempted to go with a Ti or even a 3090. Been looking on eBay and lol….lots of folks still trying to scalp on there. Guess no one told them that game is over.
nullable 2022 年 9 月 6 日 下午 1:44 
引用自 N0REGARD4LIFE
引用自 Snakub Plissken
I bought a 3080 ti once they broke $1000. I'll probably buy a 4080 if the performance increase is sufficient and hand-me-down the 3080 ti to the wife. So for me, why not both?

If someone needs a GPU now, a newly reduced 30 series card would be fine. It won't run worse once the 40 series is released. And it'll last until the 50 series is released, easily. Nothing wrong with waiting if you're able to though.
I have a 3080 but am tempted to go with a Ti or even a 3090. Been looking on eBay and lol….lots of folks still trying to scalp on there. Guess no one told them that game is over.

I'm assuming it's an original recipe 10GB 3080. I don't think the 3080 ti is much of an upgrade. And I have heard the 3080 ti described as 3090 with less RAM.

I haven't gone so far off the enthusiast deep end enough to be buying incremental refreshes for cards. With a 3080 I could definitely convince myself to wait for the 4080 release. Maybe if it was a 3050 or 3060 where you'd drastically improve performance at 1440p or 2160p with a 3080 ti then maybe, I could talk myself into it.
N0REGARD4LIFE 2022 年 9 月 6 日 下午 1:52 
引用自 Snakub Plissken
引用自 N0REGARD4LIFE
I have a 3080 but am tempted to go with a Ti or even a 3090. Been looking on eBay and lol….lots of folks still trying to scalp on there. Guess no one told them that game is over.

I'm assuming it's an original recipe 10GB 3080. I don't think the 3080 ti is much of an upgrade. And I have heard the 3080 ti described as 3090 with less RAM.

I haven't gone so far off the enthusiast deep end enough to be buying incremental refreshes for cards. With a 3080 I could definitely convince myself to wait for the 4080 release. Maybe if it was a 3050 or 3060 where you'd drastically improve performance at 1440p or 2160p with a 3080 ti then maybe, I could talk myself into it.
Well when you put it that way lol. You’re right.
A&A 2022 年 9 月 6 日 下午 3:19 
No, because l am not looking for GPUs :)
Illusion of Progress 2022 年 9 月 6 日 下午 3:27 
This started occurring months ago. nVidia has spent the last couple months desperate to get rid of the higher end models, like the RTX 3070 Ti and above but especially the RTX 3080/3090s, because they produced more of them than a traditional market would buy during the cryptocurrency market because anything will sell during then. Now, they're desperate to offload them before the new series so many of them are selling slightly below MSRP (though, IMO, they're all a bit too expensive still, and the mid-range and below is still a mediocre place that last had a good offering with Pascal). I figure I'll be having to "spend up" anyway though so the price drops did tempt me (was even looking at RTX 3080s), but I ultimately decided to wait.

I'm not buying right now. I'll wait until next year for the RTX 4000 series and AMD's upcoming offerings. I'm using a GTX 1060 and it's fine until then. I may spend up to the RTX 4070 but it depends on pricing, and price to performance of the x60 and x70 models. Though, AMD is offering much better performance for the price outside ray tracing and some certain titles, so if that remains the same to the same extent and nVidia is stingy with VRAM on the mid-range models next time around again, I will certainly look more AMD's way.

In the meantime, more having to convince myself not to grab a 5800X3D in the meantime to extend my AM4 platform further. I keep telling myself it would be "backwards" to upgrade the CPU (current one is a 3700X) when the GPU more needs it, but with the GPU I'm waiting until new offerings come because I'm in no rush, whereas the Zen 3 CPUs have been seeing nice price drops in the recent weeks/months so my inner voice is half telling me due to timing/circumstances to get the CPU soon, since I'll have the money saved for the GPU by time it comes anyway. Might wait until AM5 actually launches to see what happens but there's a chance prices on Zen 3 won't drop further (after all, Zen 2 went UP after Zen 3 launched).
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Nerva Matapan 2022 年 9 月 6 日 下午 3:36 
Can we all just take a moment to rejoice over the crypto crash? May the newly-inpoverished never enjoy success again, and their cardboard homes always be soggy. Amen.
MoonC A T 2022 年 9 月 6 日 下午 3:46 
I'm not buying right now. I'll wait until next year for the RTX 4000 series and AMD's upcoming offerings. I'm using a GTX 1060 and it's fine until then.
You are? Because I'm suffering now with my 1060 (gave my 3060ti to my son for his VR needs). Is yours 6gb or 3gb (mine is 3gb) and is there a big difference?
Illusion of Progress 2022 年 9 月 6 日 下午 3:54 
引用自 MoonC A T
I'm not buying right now. I'll wait until next year for the RTX 4000 series and AMD's upcoming offerings. I'm using a GTX 1060 and it's fine until then.
You are? Because I'm suffering now with my 1060 (gave my 3060ti to my son for his VR needs). Is yours 6gb or 3gb (mine is 3gb) and is there a big difference?
Yes, I can manage with it for a while yet. Many people are making do with less. I don't tend to play the latest and greatest demanding games, I don't do anything silly like "ultra presets", and I play at 1200p/60 Hz, so I'm not in need of something drastically faster, yesterday, so to speak (though, I am hoping to move that to a 1440p/144 Hz eventually, which is part of why I'm planning to look at higher tier models than I normally do).

I certainly WANT an upgrade mind you, but at this point, if I'm having to either take a somewhat mediocre deal with the current mid-range stuff, or spend up a bit more for the better values, then I can afford to wait a bit longer until the RTX 4070/RTX 4060 release and see what my options are then.

And I have the 6 GB model. It's not worlds faster than the 3 GB model but aside from the VRAM difference, the graphics chip itself is marginally faster too. And yeah, 3 GB would be a bit more constraining these days. As I mentioned, even my 6 GB is (albeit it mostly in one game) proving to be exhausted which is making VRAM more of a factor I'll consider for my next upgrade.
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kiwikev 2022 年 9 月 6 日 下午 8:34 
Here in NZ, still waiting for the RTX 3060 to drop to msrp levels, cheapest i can see today is around $669 nzd and 3060Ti is around $800 nzd .
common 2022 年 9 月 7 日 上午 12:05 
Meanwhile in Australia a 3060 is still $560-700. 3060ti is $730-$800 and 3070 is $850-$1000

Good ole Australia tax
muckymucks 2022 年 9 月 7 日 上午 12:36 
People seem to be under the impression there will be 40 series cards available for anyone who wants one at launch. If history is any indication we're going to be reliving the scalper market all over again.

As for myself, I got a 3080 12GB for $700 a month ago. By selling my old GPU (a GTX 1080) and the 5% cash back from Amazon, it came out to about $555. Not too bad. So far I'm enjoying running all games on ultra. The 1080 was still good but not good enough for me anymore. I'll keep the 3080 12GB for a good 5-6 years just like I did with the 1080.
Andrius227 2022 年 9 月 7 日 上午 12:50 
引用自 muckymucks
People seem to be under the impression there will be 40 series cards available for anyone who wants one at launch. If history is any indication we're going to be reliving the scalper market all over again.

As for myself, I got a 3080 12GB for $700 a month ago. By selling my old GPU (a GTX 1080) and the 5% cash back from Amazon, it came out to about $555. Not too bad. So far I'm enjoying running all games on ultra. The 1080 was still good but not good enough for me anymore. I'll keep the 3080 12GB for a good 5-6 years just like I did with the 1080.

I expect rtx4000 will be hard to get for like a month after release. But it will not be anywhere near as bad as the rtx3000 release. Specially with energy prices going up i think a lot of people may even ditch gaming. The demand for gpus may drop significantly.
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Illusion of Progress 2022 年 9 月 7 日 上午 4:45 
引用自 kiwikev
Here in NZ, still waiting for the RTX 3060 to drop to msrp levels, cheapest i can see today is around $669 nzd and 3060Ti is around $800 nzd .
引用自 common
Meanwhile in Australia a 3060 is still $560-700. 3060ti is $730-$800 and 3070 is $850-$1000

Good ole Australia tax
I don't think that's just an Australian/New Zealand thing. The mid range is just mediocre in price to performance, and it's mostly down to three reasons.

It's mostly the high end that got price cuts because that's what nVidia is sitting on an oversupply of.

The high end was also the end of the market more likely to pay asking price for a gaming card at cryptocurrency pricing where midrange buyers weren't, meaning the high end market is already saturated (which goes hand in hand with the first reason) whereas the mid-range isn't.

The x60 is also going to be replaced later.
引用自 muckymucks
People seem to be under the impression there will be 40 series cards available for anyone who wants one at launch. If history is any indication we're going to be reliving the scalper market all over again.
If you're referring to what happened with the current generation, that is unlikely to happen. New product is sometimes harder to get at launch, yes.

The "scalper market" isn't a thing because scalpers are only ever a symptom, not a cause themselves. What happened the last time was a cryptocurrency market came about right after they launched.

The difference is, the market normally has a saturation point (especially at the high end which only comprises a fraction of the market) and the cryptocurrency market doesn't have a saturation point (because "thing generates profit", so "infinite demand"). That's the sole reason the scalping occurred. The willingness to buy at pricing WAY above what MSRP indefinitely was there. That will not be the case this time, and least not unless another proof of work cryptocurrency spikes in value right as/after the new cards launch or something.

Yes, they will be a bit hard to get at first, but this fear and worrying that it will repeat comes from a misunderstanding of what led to it occurring to begin with last time.
Tomi Montana 2022 年 9 月 7 日 上午 6:03 
引用自 MoonC A T
I'm not buying right now. I'll wait until next year for the RTX 4000 series and AMD's upcoming offerings. I'm using a GTX 1060 and it's fine until then.
You are? Because I'm suffering now with my 1060 (gave my 3060ti to my son for his VR needs). Is yours 6gb or 3gb (mine is 3gb) and is there a big difference?
There is a difference between them. I have the 6GB variant and a family relative of mine has a 3GB version paired with a 5600X. My relative is having issues with newer games such as No Man´s Sky and Escape from Tarkov even with settings dropped heavily.
6GB variant is completely usable and manageable in newer titles as long as you are willing to drop settings.
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