If you care about privacy, look into grapheneOS

[Hugh J nuss]

Anyone else here using graphene? Running it on a pixel 4 and looking to upgraded to the pixel 6a this year. Have you converted anyone? I converted my dad and my brother, and working on my friends.

If you dont use graphene, why? It functions just like android but doesnt also harvest your very soul

[Crawl]

I'm going to kind of derail this thread a bit but I'm curious, are you just against Google collecting your phone data or are you all in on the data collection. Do you not use Windows, Edge, Chrome, Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, any social media, etc. etc.? I know you can disable services, use a vpn, delete social media accounts (best thing I ever did btw, those services are trash and I don't miss them a bit). Its just that I've seen people for instance say I won't buy a Quest 2 because Fackbook owns it and will track them yet they are on Facebook 24/7. I just feel like you either have to be all in or you are wasting your time.

[Hugh J nuss]

引用自 Crawl：

I'm going to kind of derail this thread a bit but I'm curious, are you just against Google collecting your phone data or are you all in on the data collection. Do you not use Windows, Edge, Chrome, Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, any social media, etc. etc.? I know you can disable services, use a vpn, delete social media accounts (best thing I ever did btw, those services are trash and I don't miss them a bit). Its just that I've seen people for instance say I won't buy a Quest 2 because Fackbook owns it and will track them yet they are on Facebook 24/7. I just feel like you either have to be all in or you are wasting your time.

I do not use any social media and browse with brave, Firefox, or TOR

I use windows for gaming ONLY. And nothing else is on there, I don't even browse on that computer. I use Linux and VMs for everything else

[Hugh J nuss]

引用自 A&A：

引用自 TC SKATES：

It is extremely easy. You can do it right from your browser

From browser?! This is a joke right?

No, any chromium based browser has the ability to isntall grapheneOS directly from their website onto an unlocked pixel. I used the terminal in Linux but its the same results

You plug the phone into a computer and use the browser on the computer. You can also plug a pixel into a graphene pixel and do it that way too

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

its so funny that the antiprivacy companies phone is the easiest to be private on

[A&A]

引用自 Ana✰Larive：

its so funny that the antiprivacy companies phone is the easiest to be private on

Yeah, this is very ironical. I was thinking is it possible to have a spyware on hardware level? Because Intel and AMD already have Intel ME and AMD PSP which have the potential to do this.

[Hugh J nuss]

引用自 A&A：

引用自 Ana✰Larive：

its so funny that the antiprivacy companies phone is the easiest to be private on

Yeah, this is very ironical. I was thinking is it possible to have a spyware on hardware level? Because Intel and AMD already have Intel ME and AMD PSP which have the potential to do this.

The phone has been completely torn down by independent people, and although it is possible, since Graphene changes it down to the Linux kernel, the amount of data possible for Google to steal is basically zero

[KalGimpa]

引用自 TC SKATES：

引用自 Crawl：

I'm going to kind of derail this thread a bit but I'm curious, are you just against Google collecting your phone data or are you all in on the data collection. Do you not use Windows, Edge, Chrome, Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, any social media, etc. etc.? I know you can disable services, use a vpn, delete social media accounts (best thing I ever did btw, those services are trash and I don't miss them a bit). Its just that I've seen people for instance say I won't buy a Quest 2 because Fackbook owns it and will track them yet they are on Facebook 24/7. I just feel like you either have to be all in or you are wasting your time.

I do not use any social media and browse with brave, Firefox, or TOR

I use windows for gaming ONLY. And nothing else is on there, I don't even browse on that computer. I use Linux and VMs for everything else

100% this

only time my windows touches the net is if steam needs to reassess itself, check on the legitimacy of my keys, or whatever

i hate the idea of my info being used as a commodity. i hate how much these giant, money making companies get for buying and selling it and how little they care for their security.

my info was stolen twice and my accounts drained because of a data leak and it is was a nightmare to get it all cleared up

[KalGimpa]

引用自 DenKerॐ：

引用自 KalCuey：

i am using legionos right now but its got a bunch of glitches. calls not connecting and texts showing up after some time and the like. damn thing goes of sometimes just for the hell of it

how stable is ubuntu?

Depends on the device actually. I have a phone which is configured for this OS and I gotta say that it runs very stable, just made some adjustments to make it even more stable and powerful. But here is a list of supported devices. That's Ubuntu, you've got the freedom to make it better yourself :D But if something doesn't run, you can also report it as a bug, in my experience they fix it fast.

https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/?pk_vid=8217af2f3fc7145e1662474153a74afe

thanks, partner.

mine is not there. oh well. i am trying to decide ion staying with this and letting it work out some bugs or going back to stock

[icehat]

you can remove 99.9% of corporate surveillance on most phones by removing google play services and its associated bloat, cfw usually isn't needed unless you want root

regardless, any device that has a functional GSM chip is backdoored at the hardware and probably firmware(kernel) level. if you have something worth hiding from law enforcement or other powerful actors you need to ditch the phone yesterday

[Thesoxplace]

in this day and age you are not hidden from anyone, you can prevent lots of it, but you leave fingerprints and crumbs everywhere "no I dont" yes yes you do, even the smartest of the people that do certain items get caught in time, and they claimed the same thing. Good luck though, as within a couple of generations there will be no privacy left.

[Hugh J nuss]

引用自 Moe：

in this day and age you are not hidden from anyone, you can prevent lots of it, but you leave fingerprints and crumbs everywhere "no I dont" yes yes you do, even the smartest of the people that do certain items get caught in time, and they claimed the same thing. Good luck though, as within a couple of generations there will be no privacy left.

Leading crumbs is fine. Its about exposing only the normal and useless things and hiding the more personal things that is the goal. You cant disappear, but you absolutely can appear normal and completely non unique

[Zef]

引用自 TC SKATES：

Anyone else here using graphene? Running it on a pixel 4 and looking to upgraded to the pixel 6a this year. Have you converted anyone? I converted my dad and my brother, and working on my friends.

If you dont use graphene, why? It functions just like android but doesnt also harvest your very soul

This only covers the software/OS layer.

You completely forget about hardware built in back doors and IMEI tracking + if you use social media/messiging apps it doesn't matter what OS you are running anyway.

[Hugh J nuss]

引用自 zef：

引用自 TC SKATES：

Anyone else here using graphene? Running it on a pixel 4 and looking to upgraded to the pixel 6a this year. Have you converted anyone? I converted my dad and my brother, and working on my friends.

If you dont use graphene, why? It functions just like android but doesnt also harvest your very soul

This only covers the software/OS layer.

You completely forget about hardware built in back doors and IMEI tracking + if you use social media/messiging apps it doesn't matter what OS you are running anyway.

I don't, and reducing the amount of data you send is still relevant, especially if you use OSs that sandbox apps. Backdoors and physical tracking arent my main concerns because cell towers arent nearly as accurate as WiFi and GPS data anyway, which I keep disabled

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

dont forget the scummy corpos are also using blue tooth low energy to talk with other passer by phones which might not be locked down as good as yours. If the passerby phone has location data then your distance to them can be triangulated

very hard to turn off ble

[Hugh J nuss]

引用自 Ana✰Larive：

dont forget the scummy corpos are also using blue tooth low energy to talk with other passer by phones which might not be locked down as good as yours. If the passerby phone has location data then your distance to them can be triangulated

very hard to turn off ble

Afaik graphene has this system beat, its called "nearby devices" and you have the ability to lock it down