Graphics Cards Power Consumption

[Pocahawtness]

I know this is a little early to be talking about, but the general consensus out there is we are close to the miniaturisation limit for circuits in chips and any future enhancements in graphics cards will most likely make the chips more power hungry. Already people are talking about 600W for the next gen NVIDIA's. I was thinking about this the other day, and with energy prices going the way they are going, this is going to be a real issue for people who play for long periods of time.
I was just wondering, how many people out there who pay the electricity bill will be a bit concerned about buying a card that consumes that much electricity?

[Banana]

undervolt the card the 3090 i have sits at 1061 volt at times i learned about under volting some years ago and its really helpful card runs alot cooler and uses less voltage right now im at .850 its like 15c less its kinda crazy really

[[N]ebsun]

Power consumption is a factor I consider when buying things, but it isn't the main thing I look for.. If there are 2 similarly performing products and one of them draws half the power and is only slightly less performant, I would go for that one.
It's the reason I got a Ryzen 7 3700x (65w tdp) and not a 3800x (105w tdp)

Over the course of a year though, computers do not really have the highest impact on your electrical bill - that is going to mostly cooling / heating, water heating, and lighting

[Banana]

引用自 Nebsun：

Power consumption is a factor I consider when buying things, but it isn't the main thing I look for.. If there are 2 similarly performing products and one of them draws half the power and is only slightly less performant, I would go for that one.
It's the reason I got a Ryzen 7 3700x (65w tdp) and not a 3800x (105w tdp)

i feel like i made the right decision when i ended up with a 1300 w psu considering how high its gonna get xd

[Pocahawtness]

引用自 Nebsun：

Over the course of a year though, computers do not really have the highest impact on your electrical bill - that is going to mostly cooling / heating, water heating, and lighting

Funny thing is that it is for me. I have several PC's and by making sure they are not both on at the same time I have cut my electric bill by 30%. My lighting is really cheap because I have all LED bulbs and of course they are not on all the time. Everything else I use is gas which is a lot cheaper than electricity.

[Cyg]

I bought an RTX 3080 and I’m extremely concerned about my electricity bill at the end of the year. In my country (Netherlands) energy prices are 8 times as high as last year prices. I paid 500 euro last year and this year I expect 3000 euro or so. It’s gonna be painful.

[A&A]

Are we going back to 60 fps 1080p ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Meh ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

[dOBER]

In my option people who have money for a titan class gpu to play games with it should have money to pay electricity bill. 520w now with 3090 or 600w with 4090 doesnt make a huge difference.

But yes i agree, i live in germany and with 35cent/kwh which is incredible high and my pc eats avg 850-900w while gaming. Expensive hobby.

[Soulreaver]

I wonder a bit about the nature of context this is set in.

引用自 dOBER：

In my option people who have money for a titan class gpu to play games with it should have money to pay electricity bill. 520w now with 3090 or 600w with 4090 doesnt make a huge difference.

But yes i agree, i live in germany and with 35cent/kwh which is incredible high and my pc eats avg 850-900w while gaming. Expensive hobby.

This would usualy be my answer too.

But to be fair. Even if we assume a 1kw/hr gaming system and 40hrs/week of gametime. This is at 35ct around 56€ for the whole month in electricity. And if you have a fulltime job this almost implys gaming is ALL you do.

I don't think thats a lot in that circumstance. Especially if we consider that this would need a 4-5k gaming rig to draw that much power in the first place.

So to come back to my first line. This scenario probably excludes 99.999% of all gamers.

[Guydodge]

worst case scenario would be around 50.00 a month.gaming 10-12 hours a day on a 750+
system.i can spend that on dinner out or 1 hour at the shooting range with ease.so compared to that.PC gaming is a very inexpensive hobby.

[mtono]

引用自 🤪 Pocahawtness：

I know this is a little early to be talking about, but the general consensus out there is we are close to the miniaturisation limit for circuits in chips and any future enhancements in graphics cards will most likely make the chips more power hungry. Already people are talking about 600W for the next gen NVIDIA's. I was thinking about this the other day, and with energy prices going the way they are going, this is going to be a real issue for people who play for long periods of time.
I was just wondering, how many people out there who pay the electricity bill will be a bit concerned about buying a card that consumes that much electricity?

easy: if i had the money^^
my2ct

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Yes, Graphics cards are becoming more power hungry day by day, but they're becoming more powerful as well. Their efficiency, and performance per watt figures are improving. RTX 3060 Ti is more powerful than previous gen RTX 2080 and also consumes less power.

RTX 3080Ti or 3090 consume more power but they're bigger & more powerful than any cards in the previous gen. Do you expect a 3000cc engine and a 5000cc engine to consume same power?

If you are concerned about your power consumption, buy mid-range cards. You won't lose anything compared to previous generations, whether it is power-efficiency or performance.

[mtono]

引用自 🦆Cloud Boy🦆：

If you are concerned about your power consumption, buy mid-range cards. You won't lose anything compared to previous generations, whether it is power-efficiency or performance.

this is it! i always prefered mid-range cards, because i thought, that i wont pay that much for pc-gaming, but it is about what you want and i surely understand the people that buy highend hardware and also, for example, 1300 watts psu.

[r.linder]

Power consumption wouldn't be as much of an issue if power sources were more efficient, cleaner to operate, and didn't cost us as much. Remove those 2 problematic factors and it wouldn't even matter if these cards pulled 1000W as long as they stayed cool as they do now.

Thorium-based nuclear energy is a possible route that should be looked into since thorium produces less waste than uranium, is a more efficient nuclear source than uranium, and thorium is in much greater abundance on Earth.
There are other advantages to thorium, such as the fact that it has very low potential to be weaponised as the uranium and plutonium isotopes produced in thorium reactors are largely consumed, and the risk of meltdown is considerably lower than other types of nuclear reactors, to the point that it's more likely to have a meltdown through sabotage rather than through neglect.

The only real downside of thorium reactors is that they're outrageously expensive in the startup costs, but the benefits vastly outweigh that, and it's considered to be the key to discovering safer and cleaner nuclear power that will be efficient enough to handle pretty much all of humanity's power needs. The whole planet could be powered by thorium for as long as there's enough to go around.

[Der tüddelige Fußgänger]

Meanwhile i am fine with my rx580 which uses ~110 watts at max load and only have a 450 watts psu ^^

I just wait for a maybe 300€ gpu at this point which will a nice upgrade over my current one

Although it seems like while the nvidia xx70 and amd x700 are really good bangs for the bucks
I feel like lower end gpus aren't that great. Especially with some amd card only having 4gb of vram.
I just feel like there is a big hole in the gpu market for people who have the most used Nvidia and amd gpus. While are the ~200-300 € cards btw

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

When my rx6400 maxes out it is 48 watt, idles at 2 watt. My whole system maxes out at around 140 watt, heh