Just bought a "new" pc, planning to buy a new graphics card, need help?

[KleemErkman]

I have a Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9650
(12M Cache, 3.00 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB) 8gb ram and geforce gtx 570

I joust bought it for 220€ and im happy with it.

I'm planning to buy a new graphics card and I was looking for MSI GTX 1060 GAMING X 3G GeForce GTX 1060 3072 Mt to maybe upgrade my setup abit.

Does anyone know will my pc handle this new card? and will it be connected the same way as the old one or could it be connected differently? If it doesnt somehow suit my pc I'm looking for good options!

I'm new on upgrading pc anyway. Thanks for anyone who is willing to help!

[upcoast]

If you're playing at 1080p either should be fine, either would be held back a" little" by the cpu (nothing to get too crazy about) but the benefits will outway the negative.

Yes it hooks up the same way into the pci e slot then plug in correct power plug, the 1060 only uses about 120w which is less than the old gtx570 219w.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r84HcI9cf4

The ^ q9550 4ghz with gtx970 which is a hair below the gtx 1060 3GB.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

What is your model of the PC? If it custom, what is all the parts in it? I need Motherboard, PSU, RAM, and case so I'll know how small the case is.

With that CPU from 2008, most likely gonna bottleneck GTX 1060, someone tested it with RX 480, and it bottleneck. The GTX 1060 and RX 480 are similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29DgG-RsVeM

[SundownKid]

Sorry to say but that isn't a gaming PC. The CPU is ancient, and will be a massive, massive bottleneck to any recent graphics card. You should have gone for an i3-6100 at the very least or maybe an older model i5.

I can't believe someone charged you that much for it, TBH. For that price I'd expect at least an older model i3 or i5.

[upcoast]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dr.Shadowds:

What is your model of the PC? If it custom, what is all the parts in it? I need Motherboard, PSU, RAM, and case so I'll know how small the case is.

With that CPU from 2008, most likely gonna bottleneck GTX 1060, someone tested it with RX 480, and it bottleneck. The GTX 1060 and RX 480 are similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29DgG-RsVeM

The Q9x50s where superior compared to the Q8xxx the Q8xxx were pretty much a failure.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Oprindeligt skrevet af upcoast:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dr.Shadowds:

What is your model of the PC? If it custom, what is all the parts in it? I need Motherboard, PSU, RAM, and case so I'll know how small the case is.

With that CPU from 2008, most likely gonna bottleneck GTX 1060, someone tested it with RX 480, and it bottleneck. The GTX 1060 and RX 480 are similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29DgG-RsVeM

The Q9x50s where superior compared to the Q8xxx the Q8xxx were pretty much a failure.

No doubt that you said is true, but it's single core performance, that is already beaten by today i3.

Now for how much he got the whole system for, is a great price, and can play all the games with a good GPU, but will be limited to the number performance it can push out.

[SundownKid]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dr.Shadowds:

Now for how much he got the whole system for, is a great price, and can play all the games with a good GPU, but will be limited to the number performance it can push out.

Core 2 Quad sells for $50 on Ebay, GTX 570 sells for $30. Total value of the PC is more like $100 or 90 euros. 220 euros is a ripoff, lol.

[upcoast]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dr.Shadowds:

Oprindeligt skrevet af upcoast:

The Q9x50s where superior compared to the Q8xxx the Q8xxx were pretty much a failure.

No doubt that you said is true, but it's single core performance, that is already beaten by today i3.

Now for how much he got the whole system for, is a great price, and can play all the games with a good GPU, but will be limited to the number performance it can push out.

I was just saying ^.

Ultimately the guy would've been better off with an i3 6100 but he's got a q9650 so that's what he's got to work with so he can sit there and be bummed out over the lack of performance from the gtx570 or pop in a gtx 1060 3GB and have some bottlenecking going on but be better off in the short run with the fps climb.

Ps, what's the point of harping on his mistake and making him feel worse I'm sure he learnt and won't do it again.


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/49?vs=102

About par with the 965BE ^.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/49?vs=699

A little behind the FX6300 ^.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Oprindeligt skrevet af SundownKid:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dr.Shadowds:

Now for how much he got the whole system for, is a great price, and can play all the games with a good GPU, but will be limited to the number performance it can push out.

Core 2 Quad sells for $50 on Ebay, GTX 570 sells for $30. Total value of the PC is more like $100 or 90 euros. 220 euros is a ripoff, lol.

Don't leave everything else out, you must also include everything, PSU, Case, Ram. Mobo, HDD, Disk drive, OS. With all that in mind, should run around $185+ all off of Ebay, in euro to usd, is €170+, which he only paid 220 from the store as pre build I presume. No he didn't get rip hard as you think he did. The parts he was given are indeed not great, but doesn't mean what he paid was wrong, not all places sell at a fix rate.

Oprindeligt skrevet af upcoast:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dr.Shadowds:

No doubt that you said is true, but it's single core performance, that is already beaten by today i3.

Now for how much he got the whole system for, is a great price, and can play all the games with a good GPU, but will be limited to the number performance it can push out.

I was just saying ^.

Ultimately the guy would've been better off with an i3 6100 but he's got a q9650 so that's what he's got to work with so he can sit there and be bummed out over the lack of performance from the gtx570 or pop in a gtx 1060 3GB and have some bottlenecking going on but be better off in the short run with the fps climb.

Ps, what's the point of harping on his mistake and making him feel worse I'm sure he learnt and won't do it again.

I understand, and also it's better to inform him than mislead, or not mention his issue ahead of time, before he makes any more future purchases, to throw more money at the machine, then he has to, if he wants to upgrade everything at a much later time, then it would be ok to get a GTX 1060, but if he has no plans to do so, it's best to inform.

[KleemErkman]

Thanks for the quick answers!

Hmm. It says hp xw4600 workstation on the case. It is a pretty big one so i think there is room. I dont remember the power supply but it was around 450-500w. 8gb of ddr ecc ram. Hewlet packard 786F3 v01.34 <- I believe that is the motherboard?

I dont mind bottlenecking that graphics card. I'll propably take it slow and upgrade it from there. I found out that amd makes decent priced prosessors but when I buy a new one i should also buy a new motherboard. I'll MAYBE overclock (when and if i properly learn) this q9650 abit maybe to 3,5-3,7ghz if it works out well. I saw a post that said that hp moherboards aint supporting overclocking so we will see about that.

I didnt buy this from a store. It was the cheapest one I found from a used market. I dont mind if the seller took 50-70€ over the price of the parts, otherwise it would be a profitable deal. For me all the games I've played have worked well, I dont mind lowering the settinga down abit, Alien:Isolation, battlefield 4, Dirt rally, CS:GO have runned really well (for me) but I just bought the origin access and tried battlefield 1 ( I did not buy it, origin acces lets you play it for 10hours ) and well it is playable on lowest settings but Id like it to run atleast the same way than battlefield 4 which runs on custom video settings (everything else is low except the texture and terrain details are on high) around 40-60 fps.

I'll maybe upgrade next the MB and the prosessor. Also psu if necessary, then add ram to 16gb. But it will take time for me to invest on it. Any suggestions on good psu, MB and prosesser I'd really appreciate! Low budget is good budget for me. I dont mind lowering the settings on games and if I can play most games over 30 and up to 60 fps im happy.

I'll start with the graphics card for now :)

And keep in mind I used to play games with acer aspire v5-561 laptop, 1,7ghz i3 with intel hd graphics card 4400, 8gb of ram so for me this is really a noticable upgrade :)

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Understood, and i'm happy you have give all the details on what you wanted and such.

If you plan later down the road, you only need to change CPU, Mobo, and maybe the RAM, depending if you want DDR4 and getting a sky/kaby lake CPU. Everything else seems very good, even the PSU is fine for the watts.

For now I say the GTX 1060 will be fine.

[KleemErkman]

Thank you for helping!

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Oprindeligt skrevet af KleemErkman:

Thank you for helping!

Also I forgot to say this, as this might make you happy to know.

The 1060 has a TDP of 120, while the 570 TDP is 219, about 99watts off from apart, meaning not only you will get better performance, but use less power consumption.

[KleemErkman]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dr.Shadowds:

Oprindeligt skrevet af KleemErkman:

Thank you for helping!

Also I forgot to say this, as this might make you happy to know.

The 1060 has a TDP of 120, while the 570 TDP is 219, about 99watts off from apart, meaning not only you will get better performance, but use less power consumption.

That is good to know!