Thinking of upgrading ram 2 sticks or 4 sticks better?
Does it even matter ?
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If you have dual Channel then 4 makes no difference. Just get 2x16GB and you're good for life
what has been experienced is, that fully equipped ram slots (all 4 sticks) sometimes do not run perfectly. so avoiding 4 sticks is better. get two sticks, just as bad motha told you. i dont know why, but two sticks work better together and they are as fast as 4 sticks.. i wouldnt try 4 sticks. if you know what i man!?
2 Sticks is easier for troubleshooting and less problematic overall.
If I'm building a new PC I'll get two sticks for the amount I want. If I'm upgrading I'm adding two sticks. I don't have a problem running 4x.

I don't think it's a question of better. There's nothing wrong with running four sticks if that's what you end up with. There's nothing wrong with running two sticks if that's all you currently need.
4 dimms is more load on the cpus imc, it may not run at rated speeds/timings without a imc voltage bump

if its not much more, get a faster 2x16 kit

if you dont mind a lower ram speed, go with a 2nd similar 2x8g kit
Legutóbb szerkesztette: _I_; 2022. máj. 30., 16:27
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4 dimms is more load on the cpus imc, it may not run at rated speeds/timings without a imc voltage bump

if its not much more, get a faster 2x16 kit

if you dont mind a lower ram speed, go with a 2nd similar 2x8g kit
a question: how much faster is 2x16 gb? i guess this is barely a lot. maybe 1 fps when you have 100 fps? isnt it? i dont want to be offensive. i just think about it. all in all i believe it is as fast as.
When I upgraded to 32 GB, I actually first tried populating all four slots w/ 8 GB sticks and my board refused to run at xmp clocks (3200 mHz). It would only boot and run at 2333 mHz and it was obnoxiously slow. Now, this is my ASUS Prime board; other boards will vary of course. But I think this is typical.

I ultimately installed 2 x 16 GB and it runs @ 3200mHz (xmp). :steamthumbsup:

To answer the question of whether adding more memory increases fps, here is an article that basically says: if you have 4-8 GB, adding more MAY increase it. 16 GB or more likely will NOT. There are others that say pretty much the same thing.

https://techguided.com/how-much-does-ram-affect-fps/
Its 2022; just go 2x 16GB 3200 XMP and really that's all you'll need for the life of that machine. By the time you need more it will be like 2030 and we probably won't be using X86 PCs anymore by then.

RAM is not about FPS overall, it's about multi-tasking. Even a child gamer is going to need to multi-task in todays world. 8GB don't cut it and 16GB is barely enough for certain games without taxing the hell out of the PageFile. You want around 4-8GB just for your OS; 16GB just for a Game, and still have a little breathing room. So 2x16GB (32GB) is a great sweet-spot right now. It also just makes sense. Buy RAM once and never again. Unless it actually goes bad, which is actually rare. I only buy RAM from brands like Corsair and GSkill because they have very good warranty support should you need faulty RAM replaced.

When you buy or build a Desktop today, really you should be buying it to last. That means really the only things you should ever really need to upgrade in it for the life of the machine are Drives (if need more or larger ones), GPU (if needs change as time goes by) and PSU (if GPU requires more juice; plus the ATX standard is about to change). Besides that, you really shouldn't need to "upgrade" anything else. Maybe replace a dead fan every now and then or add more fans.

Stay away from liquid coolers. You do not need them.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Bad 💀 Motha; 2022. máj. 30., 19:19
it's ok to me, what you say. i am interested in AMD SAM. i do not have the money, but i think SAM is really cool. i dunno if intel has a similar function nowadays.

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/smart-access-memory
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If I'm building a new PC I'll get two sticks for the amount I want. If I'm upgrading I'm adding two sticks. I don't have a problem running 4x.

I don't think it's a question of better. There's nothing wrong with running four sticks if that's what you end up with. There's nothing wrong with running two sticks if that's all you currently need.
I pretty much agree with this and it's how I approach it (with the exception that I tend to end up with four initially due to how much RAM I tend to buy).

Buying two more modules of lesser (relative) capacity is cheaper than buying twice the amount, probably even if you sell your current RAM (though that will probably help a lot still).

That being said, it does add more strain, namely to the CPU's IMC, but unless you're after very high frequency and/or tight timings, it will probably be be able to do four modules just fine (if not, then with a voltage bump to the CPU IMC). I can merely speak from experience, but I've ran four modules through the DDR1 through 4 generations, and had no issues getting them to rated speed (which in the case of DDR3 and DDR4 meant XMP profiles). I never had to touch the IMC voltage either.

If you're going to actively avoid using four slots, you may as well treat motherboards as only good for two RAM slots (in dual channel systems), and it's not like they are there but unusable or anything. But, some people don't want to take that chance, and that's fine. It's your decision for your own system.

It's also very marginally worth stating that if you don't already have it, four modules can give you dual rank, not to be confused with dual channel (if you do already have dual rank modules, it will effectively give you quad rank). This is typically a few to 5% performance difference, mostly when the system/CPU (rather than GPU) is the limitation. It's absolutely not something to make a buying priority for its own sake; frequency and timings would matter more, but it's there if you're on the fence and not too worried it "won't work".

But if you're looking to push your RAM beyond rated specification, and/or not have to potentially raise the CPU IMC voltage a notch, you can just get two and start from scratch.
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4 dimms is more load on the cpus imc, it may not run at rated speeds/timings without a imc voltage bump

if its not much more, get a faster 2x16 kit

if you dont mind a lower ram speed, go with a 2nd similar 2x8g kit
a question: how much faster is 2x16 gb? i guess this is barely a lot. maybe 1 fps when you have 100 fps? isnt it? i dont want to be offensive. i just think about it. all in all i believe it is as fast as.
more ram will only help if there was not enough
faster ram (above 3200) will have a very small impact on fps in games
I never had a problem with four on any Intel platform. I also never had problems with the x570+Ryzen after I got it rock solid with some power offsets (4x 3600mhz cl16), but as soon as I started venturing into new bios' the thing just falls apart. Basically, it can be more problems than it's worth, depending on platform, cpu and chipset.

If you are going for four then you should really avoid the cheaper daisy chained boards.
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If you are going for four then you should really avoid the cheaper daisy chained boards.
This isn't always easy information to find, and some people will say pretty much all boards are like that anyway, but I'm not sure.

I've never had an issue with four modules on any of my last primary systems regardless.

Asus Maximus Formula (Intel, DDR2), Asus P8Z68-V Pro (Intel, DDR3), and Asus ROG Stirx B550-F Gaming (AMD, DDR4).

Aditionally, some OEM systems like a Dell OpetiPlex GX270 (Intel, DDR), HP/Compaq DX2000 (Intel, DDR), and OptiPlex 780 (Intel, DDR3) all worked fine with four modules. My AMD Athlon 64 I had way back when very briefly before I built my first PC with a Core 2 Duo also used four modules, but I can't remember the exact board. Getting four modules to work has never been this fragile situation that barely works in my experience, but maybe I'm lucking out every single time or something.
I'm currently running 2x8gb @3600 and I don't think I'll have to upgrade in the foreseeable future.
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