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I'd take a look at AMDs offerings revealed next month.
Too bad that Intel ARC is in no way recommendable right now.
It's too apparent that the RTX 40 series structure is setup in a way where the RTX 4080s are both intentionally bad values to make either the older RTX 30 series oversupply or the RTX 4090 more attractive options. The reasons nVidia would have for doing this are because they want the orders of old supply they are committed to producing to be sold while ALSO needing to make new stuff that will sell AND they need to do both while keeping prices where they want them (and after the recent cryptocurrency market state where everything sold and they made off with high profits). How do you achieve all that? You make the new series a low(er) volume series and price it higher, and slot something between them to make either of the options flanking them look better (even though they're also priced high).
I keep asking myself who the RTX 4080s are for and that's the only answer that makes sense, because the RTX 4080s themselves don't seem like they make too much sense for nearly anyone. Have enough for the RTX 4060 Ti (RTX 4080 12 GB)? The older stuff is more attractive, which is already less attractive than AMDs options. Have enough for the RTX 4070 Ti (RTX 4080 16 GB)? Just spend a bit more and get the RTX 4090 (and I REALLY hate using that reasoning and I've stated that many times, but it really does make too much more sense in this case to do that). Especially if you're already on something fast, choosing the RTX 4080 over the RTX 4090 seems such a confusing choice. Either stay with what you have, or less than the RTX 4090 is such a waste of money.
nVidia intentionally made it this way.
They're seemingly intentionally poor value products because nVidia instead wants consumers to more go with the older RTX 30 series or the RTX 4090 instead.
That's often true, but it's not here. The RTX 4090 is the best value in the initial RTX 40 series lineup.
So yes any RTX 40 below that GPU model is already going to be a complete joke.
For under $1200 you can easily get a 3080 / 3080 Ti or 3090 / 3090 Ti and it would be better overall performance then the lower tier 4080 12GB and have enough performance under your belt to last you until RTX 50 or 60 series.
I just don't have much hope in the RTX 4080s. The lesser one is too close in price to the upper end of the old series, and the better one seems to be too poor of a value relative to the RTX 4090. At best, I think the RTX 4080s seem like they might not have a WORSE price/performance ratio than the current stuff, but that still sort of makes them mediocre as far as a new generation goes because not being better automatically makes it no improvement when we always get rather substantial ones, especially when the RTX 4090 does seem like it will have a better price/performance ratio (though it will have an asking price too high for most).
The x70 often had this same predicament, but I feel like it "got away with it" more because there's more of a segment of people who are willing to go for more than an x60 tier, but not up to an x80 tier. And even then, that "getting away with it" resulted in it being a niche product, especially with the x80 tier having good value in recent times (GTX 1080/Ti, and RTX 3080).
The same logic doesn't seem to hold as much this high up the price stack. The people who can manage an RTX 4080 16 GB but can't (or don't want to) manage an RTX 4090 seems especially niche, ESPECIALLY if the RTX 4090 does come in with a much better value as the numbers so far suggest. Higher end buyers tend to research more rather than making impulse buys too (unless they are truly rich where a graphics card priced in the thousands would merely fall into "impulse buy amount" for them, but if they are truly rich then they're probably just buying the RTX 4090 instead for that same reason).
I don't know, the RTX 4080 really seems like it's being made less to sell itself, and more to sell the stuff below or above it. But you're right, this is going off of incomplete data and I'm certainly willing to change my stance if I end up wrong. I just don't think it's going to be too different than what the specifications and such suggest. There's a pretty substantial gap (spec-wise, anyway) between the RTX 4080 16 GB and RTX 4090, probably to accommodate the later RTX 4080 Ti. If anything, that might be the one I think will be most worth it of the 4080 series. But for the launch offerings, it's really only the RTX 4090 seems to make much sense to me.
If you want have peak performance, it would worth.
I usually decide by cost performance and optimal performance on the game I want to play.
Don't trust a damn thing that comes from Gamer Meld, that channel is mostly just clickbait and reporting on whatever BS rumour they can find.
Anyways GPUs gonna be really pricey for sometime.
Nvidia 4000 series - expensive as hell and power guzzlers, 4070/4080 shenanigans.
Seriously I lost any incentive to actually upgrade or build in near future.
4090 is 4080
4080 16GB is 4070
4080 12GB is 4060
Looking at more neutral party.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THxkY59_xko
The 4090 does give pretty big improvements in FPS with and without Ray tracing on highest settings. Some odds balls but overall it looks to be a pretty powerful card.
If it double the performance over previous generation and doesn't cost twice as much as the previous card it does seems like it's priced better.
Currently I can find 3090 priced higher on retail stores than buying 4090 from Nvidia. Now some are priced cheaper but if the 4090 gives THAT much performance you might as well go for it.
The wallet is gonna feel that purchase though.
Nvidia page for 4080 claims it's 2x times faster than the 3080ti in Raytracing on Cyberpunk2077 and seeing how the 4090 proved its claim they might not be lying about the 4080.
If I still had my GTX 1070 I would have put away money for the 4080 to buy the founders edition. But my RTX 3080 will have to do for me.