Question: Get a PS5 (Pro?) or keep upgrading PC?

[Ariortega]

Hello lads,

Since 2016, I've become a pure PC gamer and never wanted to back to consoles, for many reasons: much better graphics (good hardware provided of course), much higher fps, modding possibility, multitasking while gaming.

But times have changed (and not for the good). Prices for PC parts have gone up, especially for gpus. I mean to me, the prices for the Pascal generation of Nvidia cards where ok (the Pascal generation was in general a very good generation in terms of price - performance. But look at where we've gotten now.

But the really disappointing / annoying thing to me is, that a lot of modern games are running better / are better optimized on consoles (PS5) than on PC these days. That used to be different.
I'm reading from a lot of people here on Steam, who by the way have really good / high-end gaming PCs, who say that the games they play on their rig, have better fps / no stuttering issues / better performance on a PS5.

So my question: Wouldn't it be more reasonable, to simply get a PS5 (or maybe even a Pro, when it comes out) instead of pumping a loooot of money these days into a PC and then getting a worse / poorer performance than on a console? What's your guys opinion on that?

[Cathulhu]

They always were better optimized on consoles due to the fact they only had to optimize for ONE configuration.

It's just that consoles were so VERY weak that PCs had a major advantage in terms of raw performance.

That gap closed somewhat. PCs are still very much ahead. For a price of course.
But i'd say, even a middle classed PC will outperform a current console which lacks a dedicated GPU and only sports an AMD APU.

The best comparison would be a console and a SteamDeck. Both use a customized AMD APU with RDNA2 graphics.

I'd choose the SteamDeck, can be connected to a TV/monitor and be a full fledged PC if necessary. Runs many games that consoles could only dream of.

[Soulreaver]

When I bought my first high end PC it was with a 8800GTX a 650€ GPU. Price adjusted for inflation this GPU would cost around 1000€ these days. The one card above my former card if the pricing I found is correct would even be at around 1250€. (Made a 1:1 Dollar=>Euro conversion here)

So the pricing doesn't shock me the slightest.
It's "just" our salarys generaly speaking didn't rise enough with inflation.

I wouldn't go back to consoles as I pretty much like everything about being a PC user and also the experience of gaming while watching youtube or while watching a lecture or all the other easy access usecases I have with a good performing Pc and a big panel.

As long as I can finance this way of life I'll almost for sure stick with it.

For someone who has not this life long bond with PCs and these plenty of usecases I definetly see a lot of reasons to switch to a console.
Non of those would be performance related but rather price and convenience related.

[_I_]

imho, pc+xbsx+gamepass

im on 2+ years of free gamepass, and a few free controllers (using ms rewards points)

much better value than ps5 and ps+

[Ariortega]

Oprindeligt skrevet af _I_:

imho, pc+xbsx+gamepass

im on 2+ years of free gamepass, and a few free controllers (using ms rewards points)

much better value than ps5 and ps+

But you're not gonna argue that PS always had and still has the better exclusive titles?
And those exclusives come many years later to PC.

[ugafan]

I don't view it as an either or proposition. More like, if you already have a PC is it worth it to purchase a Playstation?

I have both and I spend most of my time on PC. But there are exclusives that I play on the Playstation and sometimes the console gets the better version over the PC, (Madden 23 for example). PS5 controller with the adaptive triggers and speaker is also very cool to use on the Playstation.

Ultimately it really comes down to what games you're interested in. If you do buy a PS5, just be aware that the storage will be filled quickly so budget for an external hard drive and a charger for the controllers.

[MancSoulja]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ariortega:

Oprindeligt skrevet af _I_:

imho, pc+xbsx+gamepass

im on 2+ years of free gamepass, and a few free controllers (using ms rewards points)

much better value than ps5 and ps+

But you're not gonna argue that PS always had and still has the better exclusive titles?
And those exclusives come many years later to PC.

I spent a grand on a scalped PS5, I played Uncharted 1-4, I played Forbidden west, Tlou 1&2, GoT, Soiderman, and they were all great, GoT is now in my top 5 games ever! but now my PS5 is gathering dust and I play my SX every day because of cross saves, play anywhere and GP Ultimate, it really is like an extension to my PC.

[MancSoulja]

Oprindeligt skrevet af ugafan:

I don't view it as an either or proposition. More like, if you already have a PC is it worth it to purchase a Playstation?

I have both and I spend most of my time on PC. But there are exclusives that I play on the Playstation and sometimes the console gets the better version over the PC, (Madden 23 for example). PS5 controller with the adaptive triggers and speaker is also very cool to use on the Playstation.

Ultimately it really comes down to what games you're interested in. If you do buy a PS5, just be aware that the storage will be filled quickly so budget for an external hard drive and a charger for the controllers.

I got more games on the 600GB left on the PS5 SSD than the 800 and something on the SX because of their onboard compression hardware, games are considered smaller on PS5 than SX.

[ugafan]

I picked up an 8tb D10 for storage. Only downside is I'm putting mostly PS4 games on there as the PS5 ones have to launch from the SSD.

[ZAP]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ariortega:

Oprindeligt skrevet af _I_:

imho, pc+xbsx+gamepass

im on 2+ years of free gamepass, and a few free controllers (using ms rewards points)

much better value than ps5 and ps+

But you're not gonna argue that PS always had and still has the better exclusive titles?
And those exclusives come many years later to PC.

Are they though? I look at the entire PS4 exclusive list and can't find a game I'd want to play.

They're mostly sports games and cutscene generators lol

[_I_]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ariortega:

But you're not gonna argue that PS always had and still has the better exclusive titles?
And those exclusives come many years later to PC.

as yet there are really no 'exclusive' titles for the ps5 that the ps4p wont play

xs so far can stream to pc and extend gamepass titles to pc

my ps has been gathering dust for the last 2 years

[Ariortega]

Question to PS5 owners: Can one play (download from the PS Store) PS1, PS2 and PS3 games (like Parasite Eve 1 &2, God Hand)? Or is it only downwards compatible to PS4 games?

[Reaper]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ariortega:

Question to PS5 owners: Can one play (download from the PS Store) PS1, PS2 and PS3 games (like Parasite Eve 1 &2, God Hand)? Or is it only downwards compatible to PS4 games?

This will tell you what you want to know:
https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/ps-plus-memberships-all-three-tiers-explained

Note: the PS5 is indeed backwards compatible with the PS4 games.

[_I_]

ps+ was a good deal about 10 years ago
but now gamepass offers so much more and with the rewards you can keep it going for free

no way to pass up deals like that

[Illusion of Progress]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Cathulhu:

But i'd say, even a middle classed PC will outperform a current console which lacks a dedicated GPU and only sports an AMD APU.

Eh, I have to disagree with the way you're framing this here. The word that would be accurate is discrete, but that's a mostly meaningless distinction when you're just buying a console as a single thing and not building or configuring it. The GPU is there; it's just on the same package as the CPU, and the ones in the consoles are rather capable for the price.

APU is a term AMD uses to refer to products where both have been integrated onto the same package, but everything that has integrated graphics since the Northbridge has gone away (which was between a decade and a half ago to two ago) has been just that. AMD just calls theirs that because the GPUs in them are a bit better than traditional integrated graphics. What I'm saying is integrated graphics aren't weak just because they're integrated; they're weak because they're weak.

On the PC side, the term APU has a negative connotation because the APUs offered don't really offer much GPU performance. This isn't the same with the consoles. No, they don't compare with graphics cards where faster ones relaunch every year or two at prices double to triple the entire console (and that's before talking about how useless that GPU alone is without everything else that's needed), but it doesn't matter if they're not as fast. They perform well enough (most of the time) for what they are and what they cost, and when most things are developed around their capability level rather than the high end PC capability level, that typically leaves the extra performance offered by high end PC hardware as a nice to have rather than anywhere near necessary.

[ZAP]

Besides the actual appeal of their exclusives, don't most of the graphically intensive games have dynamic resolution that dips to 1080p and even below? Like, your resolution fluctuates...

Has to look like soggy garbage on a gigantic TV.