Question about Backlight Bleed on the Asus and Acer IPS monitors
Hi, I was wondering if anyone who bought one of those monitors, the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q or the Acer Predator XB271HU, in the last year and with a manufacturing date in the same time frame have experienced any Backlight Bleed on their monitor.

This was apparently a widespread issue during the first 2 years of their lifetime and I want to know if the manufacturers finally changed something with their production to fix this particular problem recently.

I am also conflicted on which one to choose, I have browsed the hundred of threads about this subject on the internet and I'm still left undecided as there is no clear winner between the two, and with Black Friday almost upon us, I need to take a decision rapidly, so which one would you choose, not taking the prices into account?
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It was the "Acer Predator XB270HU", that had major backlight bleeding issues, therefore replaced with the slightly upgraded model "Acer Predator XB271HU" (also has 165Hz refresh rate).

Yes, the eariler models had quite a few backlight bleed issues... these later builds are now more quality controlled and you shouldn't have the issue. If you do, you should still be able to return/replace it.

In New Zealand, we have the consumer act, therefore we are 100% covered for quality control.

This is what occured:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mje_fmayu0k

Your monitor would be tested before purchased at Computer Lounge NZ, etc. Depending on the store you purchase your monitor from, either pretest or test at home and replace/refund options should be allowed.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Azza ☠; 2018. nov. 19., 10:55
In most cases, you should go with ASUS because they tend to bring better quality to the table compared to other brands, which is why their products tend to be among the most expensive.

However, that doesn't mean you need to get the most spiffy and pretty looking monitor because there's a much cheaper option from AOC[www.amazon.com] that will still provide all that you actually need without all of the gimmicks that won't actually do much for you. You don't need IPS, built-in speakers, G-Sync, or such a high refresh rate, nobody does. (In fact, most games have performance issues with G-Sync/FreeSync and refresh rates above 60 because they weren't designed to go above 60 Hz.)

I would highly recommend the AOC Q2778VQE because it has all that you need while being significantly cheaper; you could buy 3 of them for the same price of the ASUS ROG Swift after taxes, but the best case scenario is that you could buy 2 of them for significantly less, and it would make you just as happy, if not more because of all of the money you'd save which could be put elsewhere.
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In most cases, you should go with ASUS because they tend to bring better quality to the table compared to other brands, which is why their products tend to be among the most expensive.

However, that doesn't mean you need to get the most spiffy and pretty looking monitor because there's a much cheaper option from AOC[www.amazon.com] that will still provide all that you actually need without all of the gimmicks that won't actually do much for you. You don't need IPS, built-in speakers, G-Sync, or such a high refresh rate, nobody does. (In fact, most games have performance issues with G-Sync/FreeSync and refresh rates above 60 because they weren't designed to go above 60 Hz.)

I would highly recommend the AOC Q2778VQE because it has all that you need while being significantly cheaper; you could buy 3 of them for the same price of the ASUS ROG Swift after taxes, but the best case scenario is that you could buy 2 of them for significantly less, and it would make you just as happy, if not more because of all of the money you'd save which could be put elsewhere.

I beg to differ...

G-SYNC with 165Hz (if using a Nvidia graphics card and DisplayPort 1.2 or better... so long you get 30FPS or better, it will keep the monitor refresh rate in sync up to the max 165Hz, therefore no screen tearing or ripping - this is ideal for future proofing, if you can't already max out the 165Hz continuously)

IPS Panel (richer, brighter, better viewing angles, and these days almost about the same performance as TN - 4ms response vs 1ms reponse time)

The AOC model comparison to those monitors above is actually:

AOC Agon AG271QG 27”

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-AG271QG-2560x1440-Adjustable-DisplayPort/dp/B01G5JYMNA

However, yes AOC can be the cheaper option (in some cases).

Note: The specs for those three monitors (Asus ROG Swift PG279Q, Acer Predator XB271HU, and AOC Agon AG271QG) are very similar or the same, but the pricing of each actually depends on your country (one might be a bit or a lot more expensive than the others, so compare price tags). The Asus ROG Swift PG279Q has a better menu control switch on the side of the monitor to adjust it's settings, but that is rarely used so won't be a major factor.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Azza ☠; 2018. nov. 19., 11:57
That aoc monitor isn't even in the same ballpark as a swift or predator, the reason it's a 3rd of the price is, its crap in comparison and aimed at totally different users / purposes.

To say you would be just as happy with a cheap screen instead of a highend one, suggests you have never used a good monitor to of seen the difference.

The extra cost is very justified once you use a high refresh rate and gsync, IPS is just a cherry on top with better colours and viewing angles.

While an expensive TN panel is fairly close to that of a cheap IPS panel for colour, the opposite really cannot be said, cheap TN vs expensive IPS is like day and night difference.

To the OP, the issue of back light bleed got blown out of proportion, as with ALOT of things, people won't go online and shout about it when their new purchase works as intended, so negatives appear far more prevelant, if you get unlucky, just RMA it.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Monk; 2018. nov. 19., 12:23
Thank you guys for your feedback.

I should add that I only have eyes on the Asus and Acer model of the monitor, I don't mind spending a bit more for them compared to the AOC brand.
As of right now, I found the Asus model selling for 650 euros (down from 760 euros) thanks to a pre-Black Friday sell, and the Acer is currently selling for 720 euros, no discount for now, and I don't know if it will go on sale or not; I'm in France by the way.

So I don't know if I should just buy the Asus monitor that's on sale right now, or wait to see if the Acer will go on sale for lower, with no guarantee that it will.
Honestly I think the most difficult thing to recommend is a monitor, becuase there is no perfect do-all monitor and which weakness that bothers you the least is very personal. I think people end up trying to buy the absolute best becuase they are closest to do-all, becuase unless you spend time with a monitor you really don't know whether it's weaknesses are going to drive you mad.
I think it comes down a lot to what type of games you play. I tend to play online games or mmo's that rarely achieve more than 60fps, so a high framerate is a waste of time. Most of the games I play have fantastic scenery so good color is a must and a high resolution and UW is great. Bleed doesn't bother me, no way I will notice that in a game. I do tend to shift about in my chair so good viewing angles are a must. See, that way you can pretty much decide what I would buy. Do the same process for yourself.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Pocahawtness; 2018. nov. 19., 12:34
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Honestly I think the most difficult thing to recommend is a monitor, becuase there is no perfect do-all monitor and which weakness that bothers you the least is very personal. I think people end up trying to buy the absolute best becuase they are closest to do-all, becuase unless you spend time with a monitor you really don't know whether it's weaknesses are going to drive you mad.
I think it comes down a lot to what type of games you play. I tend to play online games or mmo's that rarely achieve more than 60fps, so a high framerate is a waste of time. Most of the games I play have fantastic scenery so good color is a must and a high resolution and UW is great. Bleed doesn't bother me. I do tend to shift about in my chair so good viewing angles are a must. See, that way you can pretty much decide what I would buy. Do the same process for yourself.

I agree with everything you've said, it's even harder for me because I play all type of games, from the slow paced RPGs to the fast paced shooters, I love mixing things up.

All I know for sure right now is that I want a 144Hz G-sync IPS monitor, I also wanted HDR but apparently it is not available with those features, so I'm stuck between those two models, and even after two years of debating, it's very hard to choose a winner.

I've already spent hours looking at youtube reviews, comparisons, forums, and everytime it comes down to personnal preference, that's a subjective point of view and it doesn't help me making up my mind.
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Thank you guys for your feedback.

I should add that I only have eyes on the Asus and Acer model of the monitor, I don't mind spending a bit more for them compared to the AOC brand.
As of right now, I found the Asus model selling for 650 euros (down from 760 euros) thanks to a pre-Black Friday sell, and the Acer is currently selling for 720 euros, no discount for now, and I don't know if it will go on sale or not; I'm in France by the way.

So I don't know if I should just buy the Asus monitor that's on sale right now, or wait to see if the Acer will go on sale for lower, with no guarantee that it will.

I would suggest getting the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q in that case.

In NZ, I use PriceSpy to check best prices and history/sale patterns. Currently it's 1179 NZD at it's cheapest price here (compared to your 650 euros, approx 1,088.81 NZD). Where as the Acer Predator XB271HU is currently on sale for 1069 NZD here. It would prob only be 5.97 Euro (10 NZD) difference, if you plan on waiting.

What is the graphics card you are using?
Ideally, it should be Nvidia and have a DisplayPort cable.
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Tsunami54 eredeti hozzászólása:
Thank you guys for your feedback.

I should add that I only have eyes on the Asus and Acer model of the monitor, I don't mind spending a bit more for them compared to the AOC brand.
As of right now, I found the Asus model selling for 650 euros (down from 760 euros) thanks to a pre-Black Friday sell, and the Acer is currently selling for 720 euros, no discount for now, and I don't know if it will go on sale or not; I'm in France by the way.

So I don't know if I should just buy the Asus monitor that's on sale right now, or wait to see if the Acer will go on sale for lower, with no guarantee that it will.

I would suggest getting the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q in that case.

In NZ, I use PriceSpy to check best prices and history/sale patterns. Currently it's 1179 NZD at it's cheapest price here (compared to your 650 euros, approx 1,088.81 NZD). Where as the Acer Predator XB271HU is currently on sale for 1069 NZD here. It would prob only be 5.97 Euro (10 NZD) difference, if you plan on waiting.

What is the graphics card you are using?
Ideally, it should be Nvidia and have a DisplayPort cable.

Yeah I'm also thinking about buying the Asus, but I would be so mad if like tomorrow or next Friday the Acer go on sale for lower, a few weeks earlier I saw the Acer going for around 620 euros on Amazon France, at that time I thought it would stay at that price because there was no mention of a sale, but since last week it went back up to 720+ euros. (what a coincidence)

I will be using a RTX Msi 2080 Gaming X trio, that's why I'm going for a G-Sync monitor, I will also be using the display port cable included with the monitor I will be buying, unless I need to buy a more recent (1.3 or 1.4) version of the cable?

Also I should add that I won't use the stand provided with the monitor, I already bought a mounting stand so the quality or size of the Asus and Acer stand is irrelevant to me, since I won't be using them.
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I would suggest getting the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q in that case.

In NZ, I use PriceSpy to check best prices and history/sale patterns. Currently it's 1179 NZD at it's cheapest price here (compared to your 650 euros, approx 1,088.81 NZD). Where as the Acer Predator XB271HU is currently on sale for 1069 NZD here. It would prob only be 5.97 Euro (10 NZD) difference, if you plan on waiting.

What is the graphics card you are using?
Ideally, it should be Nvidia and have a DisplayPort cable.

Yeah I'm also thinking about buying the Asus, but I would be so mad if like tomorrow or next Friday the Acer go on sale for lower, a few weeks earlier I saw the Acer going for around 620 euros on Amazon France, at that time I thought it would stay at that price because there was no mention of a sale, but since last week it went back up to 720+ euros. (what a coincidence)

I will be using a RTX Msi 2080 Gaming X trio, that's why I'm going for a G-Sync monitor, I will also be using the display port cable included with the monitor I will be buying, unless I need to buy a more recent (1.3 or 1.4) version of the cable?

Also I should add that I won't use the stand provided with the monitor, I already bought a mounting stand so the quality or size of the Asus and Acer stand is irrelevant to me, since I won't be using them.

That's fine and would run as smooth as butter.

Use DisplayPort cable version 1.2 or better to support 165Hz at 1440p (16.30 Gbit/s bandwidth).

Under the monitor settings (red switch on side), set Overclocking to "ON" and Max Refresh Rate to 165Hz.

Then under your Nvidia Control Panel:

- Right click on your desktop.
- Select NVIDIA Control Panel.
- Expand the display item in the sidebar.
- Click on set up G-SYNC.
- Check the box next to enable G-SYNC.
- Select Enable G-SYNC for Windowed and Full Screen mode
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Yeah I'm also thinking about buying the Asus, but I would be so mad if like tomorrow or next Friday the Acer go on sale for lower, a few weeks earlier I saw the Acer going for around 620 euros on Amazon France, at that time I thought it would stay at that price because there was no mention of a sale, but since last week it went back up to 720+ euros. (what a coincidence)

I will be using a RTX Msi 2080 Gaming X trio, that's why I'm going for a G-Sync monitor, I will also be using the display port cable included with the monitor I will be buying, unless I need to buy a more recent (1.3 or 1.4) version of the cable?

Also I should add that I won't use the stand provided with the monitor, I already bought a mounting stand so the quality or size of the Asus and Acer stand is irrelevant to me, since I won't be using them.

That's fine and would run as smooth as butter.

Use DisplayPort cable version 1.2 or better to support 165Hz at 1440p (16.30 Gbit/s bandwidth).

Under the monitor settings (red switch on side), set Overclocking to "ON" and Max Refresh Rate to 165Hz.

Then under your Nvidia Control Panel:

- Right click on your desktop.
- Select NVIDIA Control Panel.
- Expand the display item in the sidebar.
- Click on set up G-SYNC.
- Check the box next to enable G-SYNC.
- Select Enable G-SYNC for Windowed and Full Screen mode

Alright thank you for your help!

I think I will order the Asus ROG Swift PG279Q tomorrow and take advantage of that pre-Black Friday sale, a 110 euros discount is pretty decent, and if I spend more time trying to decide between the two monitors, I will never see the end of it!

I just hope that I will get "lucky" and not have any Backlight Bleed or IPS glow or dead pixels, I hate having to replace a product, it takes so long and it's very tedious!
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