RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2019 年 11 月 19 日 上午 10:21
Need Suggestions. Upgrade CPU or Buy a New Gaming Monitor?
Hey guys, I am torn between a new 1080p or 1440p 144hz monitor with HDR or Qled tech or upgrading my mobo and cpu and reusing my existing case, gpu/psu etc etc

Current specs

I7 6700K @ 4.2Ghz
eVGA GTX 1080 ti
16Gb DDR4 2133 mhz ram
H100i Water Cooler
750watt psu
Z170X mobo
250gb ssd boot drive
2tb sshd hybrid
2tb sata storage

Monitor 1 Acer Predator Z35P 3440x1440
Monitor 2,3 & 4 Hp 23es X3

All hardware work fine and a picture of my setup is on my profile. I am able to run all pc games at either ultra or a mix of very high ultra and maintain 60 to 100 fps most of the time.

So giving my hardware, would a monitor that game games look amazing or a cpu that is more powerful the way to go?

I have a $500-600ish budget for Cyber Monday, and looking at either the I7 9700K or that Samsung HDR Qled 1440p 144hz monitor. Thanks

最後修改者:RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy); 2019 年 11 月 19 日 上午 10:33
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RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 1:10 
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
Again, you have to configure everything. It's not like that by default. And again, nvidia needs to be set to RGB + FULL for starters.

can you send me a screenshot of what I need to edit? Ill show what mine are

https://imgur.com/a/YCvOPAu Should I be looking for something else? Also thank you a ton for your help!
最後修改者:RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy); 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 1:13
Bad 💀 Motha 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 1:15 
Nvidia control panel, change resolution. There are extra options here. If it's not set to RGB and FULL that will make any display appear dull cause you aren't using the full rgb range otherwise.

As far as other adjustments, look to your Monitors on screen menu settings, profiles, etc.
RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 1:17 
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha
Nvidia control panel, change resolution. There are extra options here. If it's not set to RGB and FULL that will make any display appear dull cause you aren't using the full rgb range otherwise.

As far as other adjustments, look to your Monitors on screen menu settings, profiles, etc.

https://imgur.com/a/1r1SIYk Its there. I guess all those displays in stores are what not are cherry picked to sucker you in and go ooh aaah, but thats not how they look when you get home :/ damn false advertising lol
Bad 💀 Motha 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 1:18 
Monitors have onboard settings and profiles.... CHANGE THAT.

Very simple
fux 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 1:28 
dude just setup your monitor, it sounds like you just unboxed it and never touched it again after plugging a cable in
RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 1:50 
引用自 f.u.x
dude just setup your monitor, it sounds like you just unboxed it and never touched it again after plugging a cable in

I've had it for almost a year, I have fiddled with it in every way possible, short of going out and buying a calibrator to use one time.
r.linder 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 10:59 
引用自 _I_
引用自 Escorve

The difference isn't lateral, the 3600 is the better CPU, just not by much. Only way the 6700K can actually keep up is if you overclock it.
ryzens are not good overclockers
for core performance, where it counts in games, older intel k cpus are still ahead

If you mean older as in Coffee Lake (8th), then yeah, because the 3600 beats the 7700K half of the time in gaming, and more powerful Zen2 chips do so as well, but more often than not. Quad-core SKUs are doomed, because games are gradually shifting to utilise 6+ cores, so it's only a matter of time before older chips like the 7700K are rendered crap. Technically, it already is when you see that a 200$ CPU smacks it around in quite a few titles.

This is getting annoying; you constantly bash Ryzen with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like Zen being equal to Sandy Bridge and Zen+ being equal to Devil's Canyon, but you've never even used a Ryzen CPU. You can't really bash something to such a degree if you haven't even used the product yourself, but you do so with skewed or outdated information. I know Intel is better to a half-decent degree, because I use both AMD and Intel chips, and I know for a fact that the claims you make about Ryzen are utter bull.

The gap between AMD and Intel is an ever shrinking number, to the point where it's starting to become a matter of if you want to pay more to overclock just for a very minor increase to FPS that you don't even need. Intel is more about ego than anything now.
最後修改者:r.linder; 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 11:04
RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 11:12 
引用自 Escorve
引用自 _I_
ryzens are not good overclockers
for core performance, where it counts in games, older intel k cpus are still ahead

If you mean older as in Coffee Lake (8th), then yeah, because the 3600 beats the 7700K half of the time in gaming, and more powerful Zen2 chips do so as well, but more often than not.

This is getting annoying; you constantly bash Ryzen with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like Zen being equal to Sandy Bridge and Zen+ being equal to Devil's Canyon, but you've never even used a Ryzen CPU. You can't really bash something to such a degree if you haven't even used the product yourself, but you do so with skewed or outdated information. I know Intel is better to a half-decent degree, because I use both AMD and Intel chips, and I know for a fact that the claims you make about Ryzen are utter bull.

The gap between AMD and Intel is an ever shrinking number, to the point where it's starting to become a matter of if you want to pay more to overclock just for a very minor increase to FPS that you don't even need. Intel is more about ego than anything now.


I have no experience in Overclocking, anytime I try to OC my I7 6700K I get BSOD when I run Prime, so I dont bother with trying.

Only reason I was thinking of a new cpu is I can buy a I7 9700K, mobo and 16gb ram @ 3200mhz for about $550

For me Intel is the choice to go. My pc has 2 purposes.

80% video games. 20% movies/youtube . I dont stream anymore and I dont edit videos. And if I did, I can use my old FX 8350 for that.


AMD is champ at multitasking and multi purpose pc. Intel is champ at dedicated gaming.

As a perfect example. My FX 8350 can render videos about 25% faster than my I 7 6700K

Both AMD FX 8350 and I7 6700K get similar fps fallout 4, Skyrim and a lot of single player games.

Intel shines in many multiplayer games, from 7 days to die, to arma 3, to dayz to Ark.

Doesnt mean AMD is bad. I have had more AMD than I have had Intel. And that was because AMD was usually more wallet friendly. That 3600 may be a better cpu at multi tasking, but I am not willing to replace my cpu and mobo to see it stall out at 22 to 30 fps in Arma 3, Dayz or lower fps in any number of mp games.

AMD is catching up and may pass Intel. I am not a fanboy of either. I like what fits my budget for performance, and that I7 9700K looks like a perfect fit.

My mobo can fit an I7 7700K, but that isnt a really big upgrade and for like $50 more I can buy the I7 9700K
RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 11:16 
引用自 Mom's credit card
Upgrade ram, mobo, and ssd. Then throw away that peasant hdd hardware.

?? I have a 250GB SSD Boot Drive and a 2TB SSHD Storage and a 1TB Storage. I dont see how my hard drive space is going to enhance my performance in any way at all.

Also the ram wont do any noticeable improvement for gaming. Im not editing, no streaming, Ill spend $200 for what? 2 fps? I asked about the cpu, or a new monitor. The rest of my rig is fine.

Also isnt hdd a ide connected hard drive? Sorry dude, I havent had one of those since like 2008
最後修改者:RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy); 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 11:17
r.linder 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 11:23 
引用自 Toothless Raider
引用自 Escorve

If you mean older as in Coffee Lake (8th), then yeah, because the 3600 beats the 7700K half of the time in gaming, and more powerful Zen2 chips do so as well, but more often than not.

This is getting annoying; you constantly bash Ryzen with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like Zen being equal to Sandy Bridge and Zen+ being equal to Devil's Canyon, but you've never even used a Ryzen CPU. You can't really bash something to such a degree if you haven't even used the product yourself, but you do so with skewed or outdated information. I know Intel is better to a half-decent degree, because I use both AMD and Intel chips, and I know for a fact that the claims you make about Ryzen are utter bull.

The gap between AMD and Intel is an ever shrinking number, to the point where it's starting to become a matter of if you want to pay more to overclock just for a very minor increase to FPS that you don't even need. Intel is more about ego than anything now.


I have no experience in Overclocking, anytime I try to OC my I7 6700K I get BSOD when I run Prime, so I dont bother with trying.

Only reason I was thinking of a new cpu is I can buy a I7 9700K, mobo and 16gb ram @ 3200mhz for about $550

For me Intel is the choice to go. My pc has 2 purposes.

80% video games. 20% movies/youtube . I dont stream anymore and I dont edit videos. And if I did, I can use my old FX 8350 for that.


AMD is champ at multitasking and multi purpose pc. Intel is champ at dedicated gaming.

As a perfect example. My FX 8350 can render videos about 25% faster than my I 7 6700K

Both AMD FX 8350 and I7 6700K get similar fps fallout 4, Skyrim and a lot of single player games.

Intel shines in many multiplayer games, from 7 days to die, to arma 3, to dayz to Ark.

Doesnt mean AMD is bad. I have had more AMD than I have had Intel. And that was because AMD was usually more wallet friendly. That 3600 may be a better cpu at multi tasking, but I am not willing to replace my cpu and mobo to see it stall out at 22 to 30 fps in Arma 3, Dayz or lower fps in any number of mp games.

AMD is catching up and may pass Intel. I am not a fanboy of either. I like what fits my budget for performance, and that I7 9700K looks like a perfect fit.

My mobo can fit an I7 7700K, but that isnt a really big upgrade and for like $50 more I can buy the I7 9700K

They may be the best for getting the most FPS, but that metric is rapidly shrinking. The 200$ Ryzen 5 3600 is within 15 FPS of the 350$ 9700K's results in the majority of newer titles and pretty much every newly released title, with both easily capable of 144 FPS. It's not a matter of who is better at gaming anymore, it's a matter of choosing between spending a little bit more on the absolute top quality components, or buying intelligently and going with only what you actually need and what's still capable of giving splendid results.

The age of Intel reigning supreme in gaming is long since dead. This is the age of being free to choose and not having to pay more to get the performance you actually want, though most gamers have no idea that there's no reason to go above what your monitor's refresh rate supports, as you'll often have to limit FPS to stop screen tearing anyway if you don't buy a G-Sync/FreeSync display.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/hawkshawz/saved/4FHjpg
V.S.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/hawkshawz/saved/P27tpg

People especially like to pin the 3600 against the 9600KF because of its price being cheaper than the 3600 and its overclockability, but the problem is that you still end up making at least 100$ more because you need a good cooler and a Z390 motherboard, which the A-PRO is among the cheapest already, if not the cheapest, and you're not really going to get big enough gains to justify the price without a beefy air cooler.
You could drop the price by compromising other things, but then you end up not getting as much of a price/performance valued system as the 1000$ AMD build.
最後修改者:r.linder; 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 11:40
RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 11:38 
引用自 Escorve
引用自 Toothless Raider


I have no experience in Overclocking, anytime I try to OC my I7 6700K I get BSOD when I run Prime, so I dont bother with trying.

Only reason I was thinking of a new cpu is I can buy a I7 9700K, mobo and 16gb ram @ 3200mhz for about $550

For me Intel is the choice to go. My pc has 2 purposes.

80% video games. 20% movies/youtube . I dont stream anymore and I dont edit videos. And if I did, I can use my old FX 8350 for that.


AMD is champ at multitasking and multi purpose pc. Intel is champ at dedicated gaming.

As a perfect example. My FX 8350 can render videos about 25% faster than my I 7 6700K

Both AMD FX 8350 and I7 6700K get similar fps fallout 4, Skyrim and a lot of single player games.

Intel shines in many multiplayer games, from 7 days to die, to arma 3, to dayz to Ark.

Doesnt mean AMD is bad. I have had more AMD than I have had Intel. And that was because AMD was usually more wallet friendly. That 3600 may be a better cpu at multi tasking, but I am not willing to replace my cpu and mobo to see it stall out at 22 to 30 fps in Arma 3, Dayz or lower fps in any number of mp games.

AMD is catching up and may pass Intel. I am not a fanboy of either. I like what fits my budget for performance, and that I7 9700K looks like a perfect fit.

My mobo can fit an I7 7700K, but that isnt a really big upgrade and for like $50 more I can buy the I7 9700K

They may be the best for getting the most FPS, but that metric is rapidly shrinking. The 200$ Ryzen 5 3600 is within 15 FPS of the 350$ 9700K's results in the majority of newer titles and pretty much every newly released title, with both easily capable of 144 FPS. It's not a matter of who is better at gaming anymore, it's a matter of choosing between spending a little bit more on the absolute top quality components, or buying intelligently and going with only what you actually need and what's still capable of giving splendid results.


Again, the cost of that amd, vs the cost of an I7 9700K would be less than $100 difference. The i7 7700K does as much as 20% more in gaming. And you need to consider I play at ultra wide settings. My resolution is 3440x1440. Maybe if I was at 1080P, that Ryzen would have a stronger appeal, the benchmarks at 1080p looks hands down great.


Also if I was doing other stuff, it would be a sure buy, But all I do is game and watch movies on this pc. I need dedicated gaming power, and price per performance, the I7 9700K seems to have the best pound for pound power per dollar. AMD used to be wallet friendly, but they have gotten up in price, and their mobos are expensive as heck too, so what you save on amd, goes into their mobo
RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 11:40 
引用自 Mom's credit card
引用自 Toothless Raider

?? I have a 250GB SSD Boot Drive and a 2TB SSHD Storage and a 1TB Storage. I dont see how my hard drive space is going to enhance my performance in any way at all.

Also the ram wont do any noticeable improvement for gaming. Im not editing, no streaming, Ill spend $200 for what? 2 fps? I asked about the cpu, or a new monitor. The rest of my rig is fine.

Also isnt hdd a ide connected hard drive? Sorry dude, I havent had one of those since like 2008
Pls go learn what computer hardware is before you ask what to get.


Please learn to read the question before offering suggestions I never asked for. HDD could refer to old ide, since you indicated it as such. They are not that old and they work fine. No need to buy an m2 drive until I build a new rig.
RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 11:41 
引用自 Mom's credit card
引用自 Toothless Raider

?? I have a 250GB SSD Boot Drive and a 2TB SSHD Storage and a 1TB Storage. I dont see how my hard drive space is going to enhance my performance in any way at all.

Also the ram wont do any noticeable improvement for gaming. Im not editing, no streaming, Ill spend $200 for what? 2 fps? I asked about the cpu, or a new monitor. The rest of my rig is fine.

Also isnt hdd a ide connected hard drive? Sorry dude, I havent had one of those since like 2008
Pls go learn what computer hardware is before you ask what to get.


Just in case you are having issues with reading

Need Suggestions. Upgrade CPU or Buy a New Gaming Monitor? That was the topic, Suggestions regarding CPU or Monitors. Not asking not looking at anything else.
r.linder 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 11:43 
引用自 Toothless Raider
引用自 Escorve

They may be the best for getting the most FPS, but that metric is rapidly shrinking. The 200$ Ryzen 5 3600 is within 15 FPS of the 350$ 9700K's results in the majority of newer titles and pretty much every newly released title, with both easily capable of 144 FPS. It's not a matter of who is better at gaming anymore, it's a matter of choosing between spending a little bit more on the absolute top quality components, or buying intelligently and going with only what you actually need and what's still capable of giving splendid results.


Again, the cost of that amd, vs the cost of an I7 9700K would be less than $100 difference. The i7 7700K does as much as 20% more in gaming. And you need to consider I play at ultra wide settings. My resolution is 3440x1440. Maybe if I was at 1080P, that Ryzen would have a stronger appeal, the benchmarks at 1080p looks hands down great.


Also if I was doing other stuff, it would be a sure buy, But all I do is game and watch movies on this pc. I need dedicated gaming power, and price per performance, the I7 9700K seems to have the best pound for pound power per dollar. AMD used to be wallet friendly, but they have gotten up in price, and their mobos are expensive as heck too, so what you save on amd, goes into their mobo

You can use B450 with Zen2. Gigabyte has Q-Flash, so you can get a cheaper B450 board and it'll run a 3600 just fine because it's a decently low watt chip that can't really overclock without a custom loop, as with all Zen chips. The fact that you don't need to replace the stock cooler and you can use a cheaper motherboard without any real issues as long as the BIOS is up to date for the latest AGESA versions, it becomes way more than just 100$. You absolutely need a good motherboard and cooler for a 9700K.

CPU also matters less the higher your resolution is, it becomes a lower CPU load as the GPU has to work harder at a higher resolution, resulting in lower frames for the CPU to prepare, and that 20 FPS difference is basically zilch in games that greatly benefit from all 6 cores.
最後修改者:r.linder; 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 11:46
r.linder 2019 年 11 月 19 日 下午 11:44 
引用自 Toothless Raider
引用自 Mom's credit card
Pls go learn what computer hardware is before you ask what to get.


Just in case you are having issues with reading

Need Suggestions. Upgrade CPU or Buy a New Gaming Monitor? That was the topic, Suggestions regarding CPU or Monitors. Not asking not looking at anything else.


引用自 Toothless Raider
引用自 Mom's credit card
Pls go learn what computer hardware is before you ask what to get.


Please learn to read the question before offering suggestions I never asked for. HDD could refer to old ide, since you indicated it as such. They are not that old and they work fine. No need to buy an m2 drive until I build a new rig.

He's a troll, just report him, he does this on every thread
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