sandy/ivory vs 2020

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so is the i5 2500/i5 34xxx/i5 3xxx, are these good cpu still even when the ps5 and xb2 come out?

[r.linder]

No, because only 4 threads. They're really starting to show their age now. It's a really bad idea in the long run to get a 4 core 4 thread CPU.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

No, Ryzen 5 2600 costs around $120 and wipes them out, not even mentioning something like Ryzen 5 3600.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Escorve:

No, because only 4 threads. They're really starting to show their age now. It's a really bad idea in the long run to get a 4 core 4 thread CPU.

is that why everyone keeps telling me to go ryzen? no offense i dont like ryzen even tho they offer great performance. Im intel fan. Now dont get me wrong i dont do the hate trash talk. I watch videos and ryzen when it first came out, really impressed me. However i just do strictly gaming i dont render and all that. I just want a gaming rig. However ryzen is an awesome cpu, im happy for people who buy amd and as long they enjoy their rig set ups. However i m really considering r5 16/2600 becasue the price.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Escorve:

No, because only 4 threads. They're really starting to show their age now. It's a really bad idea in the long run to get a 4 core 4 thread CPU.

is that why everyone keeps telling me to go ryzen? no offense i dont like ryzen even tho they offer great performance. Im intel fan. Now dont get me wrong i dont do the hate trash talk. I watch videos and ryzen when it first came out, really impressed me. However i just do strictly gaming i dont render and all that. I just want a gaming rig. However ryzen is an awesome cpu, im happy for people who buy amd and as long they enjoy their rig set ups.

Only Intel that actually makes some sense to buy is i7-9700K, below that price Ryzens have basically destroyed Intel when it comes to price/performance. Intel is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bricks currently because AMD is doing so good in CPU department.

[emoticorpse]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Escorve:

No, because only 4 threads. They're really starting to show their age now. It's a really bad idea in the long run to get a 4 core 4 thread CPU.

is that why everyone keeps telling me to go ryzen? no offense i dont like ryzen even tho they offer great performance. Im intel fan. Now dont get me wrong i dont do the hate trash talk. I watch videos and ryzen when it first came out, really impressed me. However i just do strictly gaming i dont render and all that. I just want a gaming rig. However ryzen is an awesome cpu, im happy for people who buy amd and as long they enjoy their rig set ups. However i m really considering r5 16/2600 becasue the price.

Get an Intel.

[L37]

Oprindeligt skrevet af P.B cups with ice cream:

is that why everyone keeps telling me to go ryzen? no offense i dont like ryzen even tho they offer great performance. Im intel fan. Now dont get me wrong i dont do the hate trash talk. I watch videos and ryzen when it first came out, really impressed me. However i just do strictly gaming i dont render and all that. I just want a gaming rig. However ryzen is an awesome cpu, im happy for people who buy amd and as long they enjoy their rig set ups. However i m really considering r5 16/2600 becasue the price.

Thing is, ryzen created a lot of hype because AMD was not able to compete with intel for quite some time, and now they can.
Still have their "+" and "-", for example the thing a lot of reviews fail to mention is that you will need faster/expensive RAM.
So if you wish to go with intel it will be fine, just do not compare modern CPU and CPU from 2012.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Oprindeligt skrevet af L37:

Still have their "+" and "-", for example the thing a lot of reviews fail to mention is that you will need faster/expensive RAM.

RAM prices have dropped a ton lately, makes no difference if you buy 3200 Mhz for Ryzen or something else for Intel.

[emoticorpse]

Oprindeligt skrevet af L37:

Oprindeligt skrevet af P.B cups with ice cream:

is that why everyone keeps telling me to go ryzen? no offense i dont like ryzen even tho they offer great performance. Im intel fan. Now dont get me wrong i dont do the hate trash talk. I watch videos and ryzen when it first came out, really impressed me. However i just do strictly gaming i dont render and all that. I just want a gaming rig. However ryzen is an awesome cpu, im happy for people who buy amd and as long they enjoy their rig set ups. However i m really considering r5 16/2600 becasue the price.

Thing is, ryzen created a lot of hype because AMD was not able to compete with intel for quite some time, and now they can.
Still have their "+" and "-", for example the thing a lot of reviews fail to mention is that you will need faster/expensive RAM.
So if you wish to go with intel it will be fine, just do not compare modern CPU and CPU from 2012.

I have 2400 mhz memory and my pc has always been fine.

[L37]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rumpelcrutchskin:

RAM prices have dropped a ton lately, makes no difference if you buy 3200 Mhz for Ryzen or something else for Intel.

Partly true, but for example where i live not only DDR4-2400 is still like ~1.5x cheaper than DDR4-3000/3200, but also faster ram is not readily available and last time i checked i had to wait like 4-5 days for it to be delivered. Depending on what system is going to be used for, if i want, for example, 64 gigs of ram, it creates significant price difference.
There is also an issue with everything but expensive x570 boards being a lottery in terms of bios versions/ability to run ryzen 3***.

Not saying that ryzen is bad, it is actually great, just... it is not as "magical" or "the only viable solution" as it is often said to be...

Oprindeligt skrevet af emoticorpse:

I have 2400 mhz memory and my pc has always been fine.

Yes, will run just fine. Will loose some performance though, potentially making it less attractive. A matter of choice.

[UserNotFound]

I believe that while not optimum, an i7 2600K/2700K Sandy Bridge CPU can still handle modern games simply because they're 4C/8T CPU's. An i5 2500K would have some bottleneck and gameplay (especially games that love more cores/threads) would be affected. Even now, I have a Sandy Bridge-E in the 3960X and a Haswell 4770K rigs, and they're fine even with newer games (just don't expect amazing framerates)

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Oprindeligt skrevet af L37:

There is also an issue with everything but expensive x570 boards being a lottery in terms of bios versions/ability to run ryzen 3***.

All the MSI B450 boards designated with MAX have already updated BIOS for 3000 series so something like MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX is good buy for Ryzen 5 3600.

[Hare+Guu!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-gPhYiswVk
That i7 is struggling to keep 60fps on the action parts. RDR2 isn't even on a new console.

[Snow]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Hare+Guu!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-gPhYiswVk
That i7 is struggling to keep 60fps on the action parts. RDR2 isn't even on a new console.

^^^
This guy is trying to mislead you, do not believe him. That CPU can easily maintain 60fps in RDR2.

[hawkeye]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Snow:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Hare+Guu!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-gPhYiswVk
That i7 is struggling to keep 60fps on the action parts. RDR2 isn't even on a new console.

^^^
This guy is trying to mislead you, do not believe him. That CPU can easily maintain 60fps in RDR2.

It's fake. An i7-2600k will be running well above 4GHz when under load not 3.2 GHz. My i7-2600 is currently sitting at 3.5GHz with just Steam and a lot of Chrome windows open, no games. Under load my i7-2600 runs around the 4.2 GHz mark. Overclocked an i7-2600k runs in the high 4's, even 5 with good cooling. There is another video with an i7-2600k rtx2060 doing 60 fps on RDR2 at 4.5 GHz.

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thank soo much for the replies. i just feel like going to pc feels better. i have xbox game pass and playstation now. I came to adapt to kb and M. sooo gameplay wont feel the same for me.