Team DDR5

[Crawl]

I've been looking into memory for a future 7000 series build. With 6000 MT/s being the sweet spot I was looking at timings and the Team T-Force had some of the best I was able to find. I've never used Team products in any of my previous builds even though they have been around a long time. Anyone have any thoughts on Team? Good, bad?

I pulled the trigger on two 32 gig kits since they each came with a 2TB Gen4 NVMe as a free gift. Was hard to pass up 4TB of free NVMe storage when I was going to buy the memory anyway. I'm not against returning it and going with a different brand if needed though.

[Zefar]

引用自 Bad 💀 Motha：

You stick ADATA in there with Corsair? LOL no they are junk, just like Silicon Power

Do you actually have any proof of that?

My OS drive is on a SSD Adata SP900 256 GB and I've had it since 2014. According to a SSD life expectancy program its on like 94%. This has gotten quite heavy use as well.

I'd say the brand is fine.

[Hugh J nuss]

引用自 Zefar：

引用自 Bad 💀 Motha：

You stick ADATA in there with Corsair? LOL no they are junk, just like Silicon Power

Do you actually have any proof of that?

My OS drive is on a SSD Adata SP900 256 GB and I've had it since 2014. According to a SSD life expectancy program its on like 94%. This has gotten quite heavy use as well.

I'd say the brand is fine.

Just because your example is good doesn't mean they have good quality control

[Zefar]

引用自 TC SKATES：

Just because your example is good doesn't mean they have good quality control

Maybe the guy had 1 bad example and now thinks all of their stuff are bad. Gotta provide some proof if you want too make such claims.

Going to Google and searching for Adata SSD and then look at shopping tab you'll see plenty of their SSD have very good scores from users.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I'd go by a brands support and warranty before anything else.

[r.linder]

引用自 Bad 💀 Motha：

You stick ADATA in there with Corsair? LOL no they are junk, just like Silicon Power

I've used ADATA products for years, they're fine and a good alternative to more expensive brands that are really just charging you more for frills and the brand name itself, there's little to no difference in quality.

They've had hate for making minor changes to their SSD specs, which chips and controller they use without reporting the difference, but as benchmarks show, the differences aren't even noticeable on the vast majority of configurations. Their RAM is usually identical in spec to competing Corsair modules for a similar price, sometimes less when it comes to high capacity.

What people need to realize is that the core components of storage and memory are mostly the same from brand to brand, they don't change much. There's literally no reason to fanboy for
specific brands and talk ♥♥♥♥ about brands that aren't marketing themselves as the best.

引用自 Bad 💀 Motha：

I'd go by a brands support and warranty before anything else.

ADATA provides a lifetime warranty for their RAM, and their SSDs are covered by 3~5 year warranties depending on type (more expensive NVMe drives have 5 years, cheaper SATA drives are 3 years) and they'll still accept RMA even if you damaged or removed the sticker from the drive. Their support is good.

[Rod]

引用自 Bad 💀 Motha：

IDK why folks are still so picky what the frequency and timings; it makes very little difference as long as you are using at least what the CPU by default supports. So if the CPU ends up calling for 6000 Mhz, sure use that. But the timings won't make much if any difference really.

You are clueless

[r.linder]

引用自 Rodders：

引用自 Bad 💀 Motha：

IDK why folks are still so picky what the frequency and timings; it makes very little difference as long as you are using at least what the CPU by default supports. So if the CPU ends up calling for 6000 Mhz, sure use that. But the timings won't make much if any difference really.

You are clueless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgb8N23tsfA

Primary timings really don't make much of a difference. You can spend hundreds of dollars more and/or a lot of hours of your time on getting faster timings and you'll barely notice a difference outside of benchmarks and certain loads that actually do benefit from less memory latency. Most of the time, simply higher MCLK has more of an impact, if anything at all.

[Rod]

引用自 r.linder：

引用自 Rodders：

You are clueless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgb8N23tsfA

Primary timings really don't make much of a difference. You can spend hundreds of dollars more and/or a lot of hours of your time on getting faster timings and you'll barely notice a difference outside of benchmarks and certain loads that actually do benefit from less memory latency. Most of the time, simply higher MCLK has more of an impact, if anything at all.

He said Frequency and timings! He is ignorant of many facts. Fact 1 too low and too high frequency is bad certain CPU have a sweet spot to maintain 1:1 gear ratio. 3600mhz max on Zen3 etc.

Then he said timings too! TLDR for me on WOW i can easily blindtest 1600mhz default vs 2400mhz tweaked. My fps literally drops by 25%. But keep telling people otherwise when its not true is simply wrong.

[r.linder]

引用自 Rodders：

引用自 r.linder：

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgb8N23tsfA

Primary timings really don't make much of a difference. You can spend hundreds of dollars more and/or a lot of hours of your time on getting faster timings and you'll barely notice a difference outside of benchmarks and certain loads that actually do benefit from less memory latency. Most of the time, simply higher MCLK has more of an impact, if anything at all.

He said Frequency and timings! He is ignorant of many facts. Fact 1 too low and too high frequency is bad certain CPU have a sweet spot to maintain 1:1 gear ratio. 3600mhz max on Zen3 etc.

Then he said timings too! TLDR for me on WOW i can easily blindtest 1600mhz default vs 2400mhz tweaked. My fps literally drops by 25%. But keep telling people otherwise when its not true is simply wrong.

Max for Zen3 is 4000 MHz (2000 MHz FCLK), even Zen2 capped at 3800.

Maybe actually watch the video and results. Primary timings don't do anything meaningful compared to raw frequency.

[Rod]

引用自 r.linder：

引用自 Rodders：

He said Frequency and timings! He is ignorant of many facts. Fact 1 too low and too high frequency is bad certain CPU have a sweet spot to maintain 1:1 gear ratio. 3600mhz max on Zen3 etc.

Then he said timings too! TLDR for me on WOW i can easily blindtest 1600mhz default vs 2400mhz tweaked. My fps literally drops by 25%. But keep telling people otherwise when its not true is simply wrong.

Max for Zen3 is 4000 MHz (2000 MHz FCLK), even Zen2 capped at 3800.

Maybe actually watch the video and results. Primary timings don't do anything meaningful compared to raw frequency.

4000mhz is the max yea, But to do that the gear ratio changes and is no longer 1:1. Thus latency and perf fall off versus 1:1. The real max is 3600mhz it performs better in games 4000mhz sticks are there for anyone who is in the know to run them at 3600mhz and tweak the timings but the best Zen3 ram is 3600mhz max with lowest possible CAS like 3600mhz CAS14 and under.

This is why i am not pre buying anything until we see what speed the gear ratio changes at for Zen4.

[r.linder]

引用自 Rodders：

引用自 r.linder：

Max for Zen3 is 4000 MHz (2000 MHz FCLK), even Zen2 capped at 3800.

Maybe actually watch the video and results. Primary timings don't do anything meaningful compared to raw frequency.

4000mhz is the max yea, But to do that the gear ratio changes and is no longer 1:1. Thus latency and perf fall off versus 1:1. The real max is 3600mhz it performs better in games 4000mhz sticks are there for anyone who is in the know to run them at 3600mhz and tweak the timings but the best Zen3 ram is 3600mhz max with lowest possible CAS like 3600mhz CAS14 and under.

This is why i am not pre buying anything until we see what speed the gear ratio changes at for Zen4.

It stays 1:1 at 2000 MHz FCLK + 4000 MHz DDR4 for Zen3, they raised the cap.

AMD recommended DDR5 6000 for Zen4 because Zen4 caps at 3000.