How will a gtx 970 hold up at 1080p for 2019?
So i'm considering a gpu upgrade(i also have a i5 4690k, which also means i'll need to upgrade that too), because i'm starting to notice games that don't run all that well on my current system and it's also 4 years old. I also might keep my gtx 970 for another year or so(especially because of those amd leaks about rx 3000 and ryzen 3000).

Will new AAA games hold up with a gtx 970 or no?
Last edited by Tralalero Tralala; Dec 16, 2018 @ 8:22pm
Originally posted by hawkeye:
The correct upgrade depends on what you want to do and what the budget is.

Most of the recommendations so far won't provide a significant performance improvement as the 1060, 580 etc are close in performance to the 970. Also there is a good chance that they won't provide great performance on AAA titles even at 60fps.

And if you do get a high performance cpu, then they could limit performance.

As this article shows, the 1060 and 580 are at their limits even at 1080p on some old titles.
https://www.pcgamer.com/radeon-rx-580-review/

This video shows 970 to 1060 performance. Not much of a difference. If you overclock the 970 the gap would be neglible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyGAYdJXvBM

Regarding 4690k, it too can be easily overclocked for better performance. It has a core speed equal to the ryzen 2700, but it only has 4 cores.

I had a 970 and swapped it for a 1080ti. My cpu is an i7-2600.

For recent titles like ubisoft's desert games performance is going to be low on a lot of pc's because of the graphics engine. There is a chart of assassins creed origins at the 8:40 mark in this video. It says that you will still get 60fps with an old cpu. And if you have a 60fps monitor, that's all you need. But to do it you need a good gpu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn9EMlxdCrM

I would try overclocking the 970..

If that doesn't work buy a much better gpu. If you want to play games like ghost recon wildlands, assassins creed etc and future AAA titles and if your monitor is 60hz, then a 1070 or 1070ti. An rtx2070 would be my choice. (free copy of battlefield 5 at the moment).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGHFx1p_PYQ

If you want to overclock the 4690k -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CHs5_TdpXE



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_I_ Dec 16, 2018 @ 8:24pm 
about the same as gtx 1060 6g with less vram
or better than a 1060 3g
HALO_run Dec 16, 2018 @ 9:31pm 
bad, i'd get a 1080 that'd last you some time
Last edited by HALO_run; Dec 16, 2018 @ 9:31pm
r.linder Dec 16, 2018 @ 9:44pm 
Originally posted by HALO_run:
bad, i'd get a 1080 that'd last you some time

A 1080 is overkill for 1080p.
The 1060 6GB and RX 580 8GB are best for 1080p gaming. Anything beyond that is just overkill.
HALO_run Dec 16, 2018 @ 11:04pm 
Originally posted by Escorve:
Originally posted by HALO_run:
bad, i'd get a 1080 that'd last you some time

A 1080 is overkill for 1080p.
The 1060 6GB and RX 580 8GB are best for 1080p gaming. Anything beyond that is just overkill.
wrong i'd get a 1080 over a 1060 anyway, hek i use my 1080 just for 1080p gaming,
and it works fine for me.
Last edited by HALO_run; Dec 16, 2018 @ 11:05pm
r.linder Dec 16, 2018 @ 11:11pm 
Originally posted by HALO_run:
Originally posted by Escorve:

A 1080 is overkill for 1080p.
The 1060 6GB and RX 580 8GB are best for 1080p gaming. Anything beyond that is just overkill.
wrong i'd get a 1080 over a 1060 anyway, hek i use my 1080 just for 1080p gaming,
and it works fine for me.

1060 6GB and RX 580 are capable of ultra settings at 1080p for most games, dude. I used to have an RX 580 and there was nothing it couldn't handle at 1080p.
A 1080 obviously works fine but it's complete overkill as it's best for 1440p, and it's stupid to get it for 1080p gaming when you can spend considerably less for acceptable performance from a 1060 or 1070.
HALO_run Dec 16, 2018 @ 11:22pm 
Originally posted by Escorve:
Originally posted by HALO_run:
cutg,
and it works fine for me.

1060 6GB and RX 580 are capable of ultra settings at 1080p for most games, dude. I used to have an RX 580 and there was nothing it couldn't handle at 1080p.
A 1080 obviously works fine but it's complete overkill as it's best for 1440p, and it's stupid to get it for 1080p gaming when you can spend considerably less for acceptable performance from a 1060 or 1070.
1080 has better performance that's all that needs to be said.

also two words mate coupons and specials
Last edited by HALO_run; Dec 16, 2018 @ 11:22pm
keep it upgrade next year
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
hawkeye Dec 17, 2018 @ 12:04am 
The correct upgrade depends on what you want to do and what the budget is.

Most of the recommendations so far won't provide a significant performance improvement as the 1060, 580 etc are close in performance to the 970. Also there is a good chance that they won't provide great performance on AAA titles even at 60fps.

And if you do get a high performance cpu, then they could limit performance.

As this article shows, the 1060 and 580 are at their limits even at 1080p on some old titles.
https://www.pcgamer.com/radeon-rx-580-review/

This video shows 970 to 1060 performance. Not much of a difference. If you overclock the 970 the gap would be neglible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyGAYdJXvBM

Regarding 4690k, it too can be easily overclocked for better performance. It has a core speed equal to the ryzen 2700, but it only has 4 cores.

I had a 970 and swapped it for a 1080ti. My cpu is an i7-2600.

For recent titles like ubisoft's desert games performance is going to be low on a lot of pc's because of the graphics engine. There is a chart of assassins creed origins at the 8:40 mark in this video. It says that you will still get 60fps with an old cpu. And if you have a 60fps monitor, that's all you need. But to do it you need a good gpu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn9EMlxdCrM

I would try overclocking the 970..

If that doesn't work buy a much better gpu. If you want to play games like ghost recon wildlands, assassins creed etc and future AAA titles and if your monitor is 60hz, then a 1070 or 1070ti. An rtx2070 would be my choice. (free copy of battlefield 5 at the moment).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGHFx1p_PYQ

If you want to overclock the 4690k -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CHs5_TdpXE



Last edited by hawkeye; Dec 17, 2018 @ 12:51am
r.linder Dec 17, 2018 @ 12:05am 
Originally posted by HALO_run:
Originally posted by Escorve:

1060 6GB and RX 580 are capable of ultra settings at 1080p for most games, dude. I used to have an RX 580 and there was nothing it couldn't handle at 1080p.
A 1080 obviously works fine but it's complete overkill as it's best for 1440p, and it's stupid to get it for 1080p gaming when you can spend considerably less for acceptable performance from a 1060 or 1070.
1080 has better performance that's all that needs to be said.

also two words mate coupons and specials

You're literally ignoring facts and recommending a GPU that's complete overkill below 1440p. We know it's faster, you don't have to prove ♥♥♥♥, but to recommend paying more when you can still play ultra settings on a GPU that costs half as much.

1060 6GB - 230$ ~ 375$ US
1080 - 550$ ~ 685$ US

Nobody who actually knows what they're doing with PC building buys anything more than a 1070 for 1080p gaming because you won't get any actual benefit going over. The extra FPS at max settings (which the weaker GPUs are almost guaranteed to get at 1080p) is not worth paying more for. There is a reason people go for the mainstream mid-ranged cards; cost. Anyone looking to save money would ideally not want to go overkill by getting a GPU more powerful than they need for the resolution they want to run at.
I'm not going to say anymore because if that's not enough for you, then there's no actual hope for you to see that you're wrong. Oh, and you can get a 1060 6GB even cheaper if you find a deal, same as any GPU.
HALO_run Dec 17, 2018 @ 12:17am 
Originally posted by Escorve:
Originally posted by HALO_run:
1080 has better performance that's all that needs to be said.

also two words mate coupons and specials

tuv

cut.
im ignoring you, it's up to the op what he feels like doing
i'm just here to help that's all
Last edited by HALO_run; Dec 17, 2018 @ 12:18am
Missing Spartan Dec 17, 2018 @ 12:37am 
I'd go with a RTX2070. Would last better in the long run at 1080p. I bought a 980ti almost 3 years ago for 1080p and i still don't need to upgrade.
Last edited by Missing Spartan; Dec 17, 2018 @ 12:38am
You will be good for a little while longer, but you should really upgrade to a 1060 at some point if you want a little bit of future-proofing.
Supafly Dec 17, 2018 @ 1:50am 
Originally posted by HALO_run:
Originally posted by Escorve:

tuv

cut.
im ignoring you, it's up to the op what he feels like doing
i'm just here to help that's all
Yes it is. But your recommending a GPU based on the fact you're happy having a GPU not being fully utilised whilst not informaing the OP of that fact. Most people would prefer to save money and get a lower priced GPU will perform the task they need instead of paying extra for 10-20-30% or whatever amount of it's performance capabilities is sat there never needing to be used.

That saving could be used towards future upgrades or something else in the OP life.

From a businesses perspective a good salesman sells the highest priced items they can to a customer.

From a customers perspective a good salesman sells them the product that suits their needs.

Your like a salesment in the Business perspective. Ignoring what a customer needs and wants and recommending they spend more than they need to.

OP. If your not Overclocking your CPU you try that for a small performance boost. You can also try overclocking your GTX 970 for a small performance boost. Depending on the success of how well your individual CPU and GPU OC you may not want to upgrade just yet.

If you do decide to upgrade and are playing at 1080p a GTX 1060 6GB will be fine. If you intend to run at 1080p at high fps, 120-144fps, then consider a GTX 1070. Anything above will cost you more and you won't use it to it's full potential. Plus it'll take cash you could use to upgrade your CPU,Motherboard and Ram at a later date.

HALO_run Dec 17, 2018 @ 2:46am 
Originally posted by Suicidal Monkey:
Originally posted by HALO_run:
im ignoring you, it's up to the op what he feels like doing
i'm just here to help that's all
cyt.
we don't know what the op will do tho
if he has money or not, he hasn't replied

also he could try and Turbo Boost his cpu that would help a bit

Monk Dec 17, 2018 @ 2:58am 
Originally posted by _I_:
about the same as gtx 1060 6g with less vram
or better than a 1060 3g

The 980 is on par with the 1060, the 970 is below it, either way both cards will struggle to max out some games even at 1080p.

A 1080 is perfectly viable for 1080p max settings as it will maintain 60+ in most cases keeping it smooth, 1440p however will struggle in some games, it is an 80% increase in pixels after all.

To the Op, only you can answer your question as you are the one who decides what is good enough, if you want max settings, at a high refresh, the 970 was past its prime a couple of years ago, if on the other hand you are happy to lower settings, it will be fine going forward.
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