How is a 3090 Ti overkill?

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I never understood these comments. Either its satire or people are actually serious.

If I paid $2000 for a GPU and it doesn't run like a Koenigsegg, I would personally fly to Silicon Valley, California and kick the CEO of Nvidia in the nuts.

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Opprinnelig skrevet av The:

The 3090Ti just doesn't fit in. A 16gb vram Nvidia card would have been better.

16gb is not possible except they would reduce bus with on 256. Simply a no on a titan card. Next titan will have 48GB. Dont tell me you dont need 48GB for gaming, right it was never build for avg gamer.

Yeah, its basically a quadro that is good for gaming.

I believe that is why the Titan series was even created. So people can use it for work, and game at the same time instead of getting another computer.

Ex) Quadro A6000 (Has 48GB of Vram and more beefier then the 3090 TI) is trash at gaming. But godly in productivity.

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Opprinnelig skrevet av dOBER:

For real, everyone who has "enough" money and thinks he needs the power of a titan class card got a 3090 long ago. Someone who thinks it would be a good idea to upgrade from 3090 to 3090ti for zero fps gain few months before 4000 900w gpu release is special or craps money. People who have to save money for a long time to buy a 3090ti now are not better, at least in my option.

Some people simply want a Quadro level graphics card that is also good for gaming. That is really the main reason for it's existence.

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Narukami:

Oh nah, I have to desire or budget to pay 2k for a GPU.

Most people don't, which extends to likely having lesser of other parts too. Ergo, for most people, something 10% faster but 50%+ more expensive is not a priority, and thus overkill, especially because of...

Opprinnelig skrevet av Narukami:

I was just pointing out there is no such thing as overkill considering how technology ages like milk.

...This right here. That's actually more of a reason against going with overkill rather than going for it, if anything. If something is going to be surpassed by something nearly as fast or faster but substantially cheaper, why spend more?

For the people who are able to afford it, sure, go for it. But the majority of people are not in that position, so I get the feeling you're unable to see why most would say it's overkill, wasteful, etc. specifically because you're in a position outside the majority who are saying that.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Narukami:

LOL cheaper no. GPUs have only INCREASED in the past 5 years. Ex) GTX 980 vs RTX 3080.

They will only continue to increase. Based on the growth. In 5 years from now when the RTX 8080 is out, it will cost $2000 for sure.

This is merely presuming a given trend continues, without considering the reasons behind the price change in that time frame.

A LOT of the change occurred starting 2021 when the effects of a certain cryptocurrency raising in value caused the pricing and availability of GPUs to rapidly shift in a very sudden time frame. It's hard to say where we'll be at in five years from now regarding this.

Many currencies have also been experiencing high levels of inflation in recent years.

Then there's the issues with shortages of parts, shipping and logistics issues, etc.

Issues with tariffs coming and going in some places. Other local issues, many of which I'm sure I'm not even aware of, making pricing in certain regions the way they are.

The new RTX cards also raised the prices over what was occurring before.

Prices aren't just going to go back to late 2010s pricing, but you also can't simply presume the same rate of change will continue. Namely, if cryptocurrency loses its impact on the GPU market, then no, pricing won't be able to go that way simply because that leaves the traditional market as the only market, and that market will not be able to afford it (the reason the current market can is because GPUs create profit so you have a lot of people with a lot of money wanting to make more involved), so the only other way that sort of pricing becomes possible is if the manufacturers go the route of "make less, but charge more to compensate" and that relies on the wealth disparity in the world continuing to go the way it is (which it sadly is but won't change to that extent in five years) and I hope I don't have to explain the possible impacts that can have. It means PC gaming eventually shrinks instead due to a dwindling user base, which will have ripple effects on things like game development, etc.

Your speculation is incorrect.

The cost for GPUs have linearly been increasing and won't be decreasing. Mid-range GPUs will cost the same as a high-end GPU, and low-end GPUs will cost the same as a mid-range GPU. High-end GPUs will cost you a downpayment for a car.

I will personally venmo, paypal, etransfer you $100 if I happen to be wrong, feel free to message me this post in 2028 or 2030.



I agree with the rest of what you said though.

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Peter:

Better burning your money. GPU will be outdated soon and overshadowed by the 40 series,which you could get for a cheaper sum of money for better performance.

Yeah but the 40 series will be overshadowed by the 50 series, and the 50 series will be overshadowed by the 60 series, etc.

Sure i'll wait till I am 80 years old and purchase the 584564576 series of RTX GPUs.

You aren't beating technology, just buy what you can afford. Worrying whether it would be outdated by the next generation is pure headache and waste of time.

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Gizmosellsbunnys:

11% gain for far higher electric bill lololol

I doubt a person who can afford this cares about a few cents extra on their electric bill lol.

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Schrute_Farms_B&B:

Overkill is a decent song by the band "Men At Work".
The 3090TI on the other hand is a good piece of craftsmanship.

Thread got already answered btw.
Its totally and a 100% subjective.

This is more or less a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Gotta make sure Jenson Huang know that his balls are at stake

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Narukami:

Your speculation is incorrect.

The cost for GPUs have linearly been increasing and won't be decreasing. Mid-range GPUs will cost the same as a high-end GPU, and low-end GPUs will cost the same as a mid-range GPU. High-end GPUs will cost you a downpayment for a car.

I will personally venmo, paypal, etransfer you $100 if I happen to be wrong, feel free to message me this post in 2028 or 2030.

I agree with the rest of what you said though.

Eh? I'm not stating GPUs definitely won't increase in cost at all (I even said the opposite in that they most likely won't be returning lower). Your post gives me the impression that's something you're reading from me.

One of my points was that you can't simply look at a trend in a given time period and presume it will remain the same in another equal time period later. After all, if one were to do that five years ago, graphics cards wouldn't be nearly as expensive as they are now. Things change, and six to eight years is a long time in the GPU industry.

Namely, presuming the trend merely continues similarly is overlooking a major reason GPUs have been at poor pricing and availability the last 16 months or so (a cause that has been anything but consistent and stable). Keep in mind I'm not only talking about cost to produce for nVidia or AIB partners, or what they'll set MSRP at (which I expect could see a bump this upcoming generation), though I also touched on those things too. I discussed inflation, raising cost to manufacture (like with RTX, etc.). I'm talking more about the wider landscape insofar as what consumers will be faced with as far as pricing and availability. For many, MSRP was basically a paper statistic only this last generation.