How is a 3090 Ti overkill?

[Cyber2B]

I never understood these comments. Either its satire or people are actually serious.

If I paid $2000 for a GPU and it doesn't run like a Koenigsegg, I would personally fly to Silicon Valley, California and kick the CEO of Nvidia in the nuts.

[Ettanin]

If you want to spend two grand on a GPU that will be considered outdated in about five months, i suggest instead to wait those 5 months and get the RTX 4090. (4000 series slated for september this year)

Unless you have a pressing need and need it now, that is.

[Peter]

Better burning your money. GPU will be outdated soon and overshadowed by the 40 series,which you could get for a cheaper sum of money for better performance.

[AbedsBrother]

引用自 Narukami：

How is a 3090 Ti overkill?

Because a 3080Ti offers 90% of the performance for almost half the price.

[ulia]

Overkill is a comparison to the generally expected performance. You would call something overkill when it is miles beyond it's intended purpose, such as buying a 3090ti to play League of Legends on low settings in 1080p. A 3090ti is not overkill for applications that utilize it, however there are other arguments to be had when it comes to price to performance.

[Cyber2B]

引用自 AbedsBrother：

引用自 Narukami：

How is a 3090 Ti overkill?

Because a 3080Ti offers 90% of the performance for almost half the price.

You are paying for the extra Vram which is very beneficial.

Like I said somewhere in this thread, Quadros are horrible for gaming. The 3090 Ti is basically a borderline Quadro but can actually play video games.

Ex) Quadro A6000 is more beefier then the 3090 Ti, but is horrible in gaming.

The 3090 Ti is mostly marketed towards Engineers, Architects, Data Science, Film & Animation, etc. These professions can pay $100k+/yr anyways. The 3090 Ti gets work done for them faster and they can use their computer for video games after work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2I69uK9WVU

[Cyber2B]

引用自 Peter：

Better burning your money. GPU will be outdated soon and overshadowed by the 40 series,which you could get for a cheaper sum of money for better performance.

Hmm, just like my car, smartphone, everything I ever own will outdated and replaced by something better. My career will one day be replaced by a AI robot someday too.

Just get what you can afford, and enjoy life for what it is.

[Cyber2B]

引用自 The：

It's more that they're overpriced and overhyped than overkill. Tech media, youtube and social media will be full of marketing and those who repeat the hype even if they haven't even tried it.

The 3000s, whilst offering the performance, do so at the cost of high energy consumption, which suggests there wasn't much innovation in the design and that they were thrown out there to push ahead against AMD. It wasn't a good release either (not just availability). They had power issues where some would just blow up (lots of RMAs), Nvidia's drivers on PCIE4 were immature (still are) and they even screwed up VR. The rollout was also problematic for card manufacturers. The designs from Nvidia were delayed, which would have resulted in a rushed manufacturing process with less time to test their own designs.

There's a lot of negatives to this generation, and the problem is that the corporate smug elitist attitude has only gotten worse. I'd recommend skipping these high end cards and wait for the 4000s. Not so much for the extra performance, but in the hope that it's a better all round design.

I would also recommend not worshipping the hype and have more realistic expectations. When it comes to a lot of the hype outlets it's what they're not telling you that's important. We already know the 4000s will perform better.

Die shrinking was supposed to reduce power consumption. Apparently that isn't the case anymore.

I still think there is still value in the 3090 TI, it is basically a Quadro that can play video games.

[Pocahawtness]

It entirely depends on what monitor you have and what games you play.

[BAD *Man]

you can also buy a 10.000$ card from Nvidia
the point is that there are people that have a usecase for this card ! and that for whom it is

No one normal would go for it just for a few FPS and pay double of a 3080Ti ...
but for some there is a usecase especially becuse of the VRam :)

[ulia]

引用自 Narukami：

The 3090 Ti is mostly marketed towards Engineers, Architects, Data Science, Film & Animation, etc. These professions can pay $100k+/yr anyways. The 3090 Ti gets work done for them faster and they can use their computer for video games after work.

There's nothing particularly weird about retooling some of the highest binned chips in to a consumer card that can push the largest performance metrics on the market, even if it comes at an exorbitant price. There has always and will always be an absolute highest end for consumers that mostly exists because there is a demographic where money is no obstacle. If somebody will buy it, why not sell it?

The 3090ti is not really marketed towards the professional sector, but it is a viable option where CUDA/RT and raw compute is more valuable than bandwidth, scalability and tensor. For pro-sumer use, the entire RTX skew from the 2060 all the way through to the 3090ti is usually viable with OptiX/RT/Tensor support to greatly accelerate most types of workload expected from an individual, but gaming grade GPUs definitely don't come without drawbacks once we enter the professional/enterprise sector where scalability, bandwidth, memory capacity and especially error correction become very valuable metrics.

[xSOSxHawkens]

I ask you to hunt a fly and give you a fly swatter. Sounds good.

I ask you to hunt a fly and give you an Elephant gun. Sounds like overkill. Will kill the fly... But why? To look cool?

An elephant gun is a big game gun for use on big game animals.
________

I give you a 3060 with a 1080p/60 screen to game. Sounds good.

I give you a 3090ti with a 1080p/60 screen to game. Sounds like overkill. Will play the games fine... But why? To look cool?

A 3090ti is for 4k, 1440/120+ or 1080/240+.


Make sense?

[ʟǟֆȶʟɨʋɨռɢքօɛȶ]

I'm using 19.8 gb of vram currently with my modded skyrim vr @ 120 hz 220% resolution multiplication

[Haruspex]

引用自 Narukami：

If I paid $2000 for a GPU and it doesn't run like a Koenigsegg, I would personally fly to Silicon Valley, California and kick the CEO of Nvidia in the nuts.

Well, a Koenigsegg would also be overkill for just about anyone, so...

Not that it's not nice, it's just more than anybody really needs.

[Cyber2B]

引用自 8bitbeard：

引用自 Narukami：

If I paid $2000 for a GPU and it doesn't run like a Koenigsegg, I would personally fly to Silicon Valley, California and kick the CEO of Nvidia in the nuts.

Well, a Koenigsegg would also be overkill for just about anyone, so...

Not that it's not nice, it's just more than anybody really needs.

My point is that the more I pay, I better expect that product to be overkill, then underkill. Regardless of whether its more then necessary.

[Cyber2B]

引用自 ʟǟֆȶʟɨʋɨռɢքօɛȶ：

I'm using 19.8 gb of vram currently with my modded skyrim vr @ 120 hz 220% resolution multiplication :liam_al:

You know I forgot to mention that some games can eat a crap load of Vram. I know Halo Infinite can easily eat 10GB and thats not even 4k.

Now that UE5 has released, we can expect atleast 6-10GB average to get those photo-realistic textures, lighting, etc.