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You should *never* have to reinstall Windows in order to enable Secure Boot.
For example, for my ASUS board, it's just a matter of deleting the PK keys, loading defaults and restarting back to Windows.
But BIOS setups may vary board to board. Edit: did this actually happen to you: not recognizing your Windows drive and booting directly to BIOS? In that case, I would reset all BIOS settings to default and try again.
Logically that would mean you' be forced to disable secure boot in order to wipe a drive that's not secure boot compatible or encrypted or whatever? sounds crazy.
Bios should "see" the drive as it is. And even if it sees the drive, it shouldn't stop you from booting into your installer just because the drive is present so you can through the installer just wipe the drive. I understand it not letting you boot into Windows, but as far as stopping you from booting into anything else, I'm not sure.
But when I did mess with Windows 11 a while back It was a funky. I did have to keep enabling/disabling secure boot, but that was because I was going back and forth between my old Windows 10 and the new Windows 11.
My motherboard is Asus TUF B450-PLUS GAMING.
So when I go into the BIOS, because I installed windows with the "other os" option and not the secure boot option, I think it locked into that and won't allow me to change it...like I CAN change it, but it'll just take me back to BIOS on reset, until I set it to "other os" again and it'll recognize the drive and boot windows.
I know the option I chose needs to be chosen if you'd like to dual boot with another OS, like some flavor of Linux, so when you turn your PC on you're presented with either partition, Windows boot, or the Linux install.
But I'm not running a dual boot setup currently, so I was a bit surprised that I couldn't just set it to Secure Boot.
Thats what I thought, the BIOS should always see the drives regardless, but nothing shows up if I select secure boot.
I might just stick to windows 10, this is annoying. This shouldn't even be a requirement IMO.
No, I'm pretty sure if I use the Win 10 installer the drives will show up. I was hoping to just enable secure boot and upgrade to 11 without having to wipe the drives.
But the way I was trying to do it, just having Win 10 on my HDD and enabling secure boot...thats when it won't show the drives/boot to the win install, just kicks me to BIOS.
So...thinking I probably have to start fresh if I want win 11?
That whole secure boot thing is probably the single biggest reason I'm not taking Windows 11 serious. I will definitely stick with 10 for a while longer.
is that Windows 10 drive/partition mbr or gpt?
Just enable Secure Boot in the BIOS.
Then boot into your existing Win10.
Create Win11 64bit USB Flash Drive using Media Creation Tool (Download Now link) from the official MS Win11 website. Once made, go to that drive letter in Win10 ThisPC (Windows Explorer) and run the Setup.exe to start your Win11 install. Once Win11 is installed it will be installed with the requirement that you keep TPM + Secure Boot enabled at all times from here on out.
And yes your current Win10 must be formatted already using the GPT + NTFS.
If it is MBR, Win11 is not going to actually install. However you can convert the MBR to GPT prior to installing Win11 if this is in-fact the case for you.
Not sure how I check this, when I go into partition manager it they both come up as NTFS.
It doesn't work, when I enable secure boot and save the change's and exit bios, the PC resets and puts me back into bios where the drives don't show up anymore. Shows I have 0 drives, both my 1tb SSD's are missing. I turn secure boot off, save and exit, the PC restarts and lets me go back into windows.
***EDIT: Just so you guys know, I'm no stranger to doing this kind of stuff, I've had 3 different OS's and a custom boot loader before all on a single drive. I've never, ever, seen anything like this it's driving me nuts.
Any disk management software should be able to easily tell you right there in the initial interface how it's formatted. When I messed with Windows 11, I had a bootable Paragon Hard Disk manager that I would use to quickly format my Windows 10/11 drive from gpt to mbr back and forth over and over depending which one I wanted to boot with, forgot all the actual specific. It's quick and reversible.
Can I do this in disk managment?
And if its NTFS is it not already GPT?
Do the methods that allow you to install Win11 with both TPM + Secure Boot disabled.
At a later time down the road, backup your data off of C Drive, then be prepared to wipe that drive clean. Then enable TPM + Secure Boot and boot directly from the Win11 USB Flash Drive. Just be sure that before you do that down the road, you first remake the Win11 USB Flash Drive again so it is actually the most recent version/build at the time you go to do this. As the Win10/11 build changes every 3-6 months for general public. And thus so do the overall features and support of the OS. Support for Win10/11 builds that are around 12-18 months old get dropped as far as updates and support goes.
Just check in Disk Management.
Right click the drive letter from within there, if does not have option to covert to GPT, then it is already GPT. Another better way to confirm all of that on a per drive basis is look at your drives through CMD (Run As Admin) > DiskPart
Nah, I think mbr and gpt can each be any file system, so it might be mbr NTFS. I think Windows disk manager tells you the disk format. I think you right click the drive and hit the tabs and see the properties tab, it should tell you.
EDIT: it's the Volumes tab
Ok I'll think about doing this.
Still considering a full wipe, reinstall with secure boot enabled though.
Thank's guys, I was trying to get away with not doing too much work but I think thats out of the question lol.