Decathect 2022년 4월 12일 오후 5시 18분
Secure Boot question.
So checking PC health I see I meet every windows 11 requirement, including TMP enabled, but I don't have Secure Boot enabled.

So from my understanding, I must wipe everything out, enable Secure Boot, and reinstall my Windows 10 from USB then upgrade to 11 correct? Because if I enable Secure Boot as is, the PC will fail to see the HDD's and it'll just boot right to BIOS.

*I'm only interested in upgrading to Windows 11 in the official way, I know there are work arounds I'm not interested in those.

**I'm still only considering moving to 11, just thinking about it.
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Decathect 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 06분 
emoticorpse님이 먼저 게시:
TeamGunstar님이 먼저 게시:

Can I do this in disk managment?

And if its NTFS is it not already GPT?

Nah, I think mbr and gpt can each be any file system, so it might be mbr NTFS. I think Windows disk manager tells you the disk format. I think you right click the drive and hit the tabs and see the properties tab, it should tell you.

Oh ok, I'll check that out thanks.

EDIT: Damn it MBR grrrr
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Bad 💀 Motha 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 07분 
https://www.howtogeek.com/193669/whats-the-difference-between-gpt-and-mbr-when-partitioning-a-drive

MBR vs GPT has nothing to do with NTFS.

MBR/GPT is the Partitioning method.
NTFS/FAT32/EXFAT are Formatting methods.
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Decathect 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 11분 
Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
https://www.howtogeek.com/193669/whats-the-difference-between-gpt-and-mbr-when-partitioning-a-drive

MBR vs GPT has nothing to do with NTFS.

MBR/GPT is the Partitioning method.
NFTS/FAT32/EXFAT are Formatting methods.

So is there a way through Windows 10 Disk Manager (Partition Manager) to change it from MBR to GPT?
emoticorpse 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 13분 
TeamGunstar님이 먼저 게시:
Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
https://www.howtogeek.com/193669/whats-the-difference-between-gpt-and-mbr-when-partitioning-a-drive

MBR vs GPT has nothing to do with NTFS.

MBR/GPT is the Partitioning method.
NFTS/FAT32/EXFAT are Formatting methods.

So is there a way through Windows 10 Disk Manager (Partition Manager) to change it from MBR to GPT?

That I think u can do, but I would opt for something else. Windows stock software is :steamthumbsdown:
Decathect 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 14분 
emoticorpse님이 먼저 게시:
TeamGunstar님이 먼저 게시:

So is there a way through Windows 10 Disk Manager (Partition Manager) to change it from MBR to GPT?

That I think u can do, but I would opt for something else. Windows stock software is :steamthumbsdown:

You have anything you personally like using? I'd appreciate any suggestions
emoticorpse 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 14분 
emoticorpse님이 먼저 게시:
TeamGunstar님이 먼저 게시:

So is there a way through Windows 10 Disk Manager (Partition Manager) to change it from MBR to GPT?

That I think u can do, but I would opt for something else. Windows stock software is :steamthumbsdown:

Right click the drive and it might offer to convert to something else. Offered to convert to dynamic disk for me but I forgot what that does. Probably gives you the gpt option.
emoticorpse 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 16분 
TeamGunstar님이 먼저 게시:
emoticorpse님이 먼저 게시:

That I think u can do, but I would opt for something else. Windows stock software is :steamthumbsdown:

You have anything you personally like using? I'd appreciate any suggestions

Well, I use the Paragon hard disk manager but that isn't free. When I wasn't using that I really liked the easus partition manager or partition wizard.
plat 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 16분 
Oh this is not good. But first, is CSM enabled in the BIOS? If it's disabled, enable it and reboot. I have no legacy devices but CSM is enabled on here.

Note that this won't have a bearing on whether a disk is MBR or GPT. MBR is legacy format, this is why I'm asking about the CSM setting.

Edit: if no progress, go back into BIOS and restore that CSM setting immed. Also--to convert MBR to GPT style means you will lose all data on that hard drive. You do this via Administrative command prompt in the Recovery environment. Trust me, I've done this before, multiple times actually. It's not difficult but you will lose everything on the drive.
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emoticorpse 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 19분 
plat님이 먼저 게시:
Oh this is not good. But first, is CSM enabled in the BIOS? If it's disabled, enable it and reboot. I have no legacy devices but CSM is enabled on here.

Note that this won't have a bearing on whether a disk is MBR or GPT. MBR is legacy format, this is why I'm asking about the CSM setting.

Yeah play with that setting too. I remember it and it made the difference. Still not hurting anything with partition conversion but I think you need to mesa with that setting too.
Decathect 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 27분 
plat님이 먼저 게시:
Oh this is not good. But first, is CSM enabled in the BIOS? If it's disabled, enable it and reboot. I have no legacy devices but CSM is enabled on here.

Note that this won't have a bearing on whether a disk is MBR or GPT. MBR is legacy format, this is why I'm asking about the CSM setting.

Edit: if no progress, go back into BIOS and restore that CSM setting immed. Also--to convert MBR to GPT style means you will lose all data on that hard drive. You do this via Administrative command prompt in the Recovery environment. Trust me, I've done this before, multiple times actually. It's not difficult but you will lose everything on the drive.

I can't remember, I'll restart PC and check brb. I do remember seeing CSM option in there.

The thing is, when I type in msinfo32 in the search bar in Win 10, in the info page I see "Bios mode: Legacy" which I think is supposed to say "UEFI".
emoticorpse 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 30분 
TeamGunstar님이 먼저 게시:
plat님이 먼저 게시:
Oh this is not good. But first, is CSM enabled in the BIOS? If it's disabled, enable it and reboot. I have no legacy devices but CSM is enabled on here.

Note that this won't have a bearing on whether a disk is MBR or GPT. MBR is legacy format, this is why I'm asking about the CSM setting.

Edit: if no progress, go back into BIOS and restore that CSM setting immed. Also--to convert MBR to GPT style means you will lose all data on that hard drive. You do this via Administrative command prompt in the Recovery environment. Trust me, I've done this before, multiple times actually. It's not difficult but you will lose everything on the drive.

I can't remember, I'll restart PC and check brb. I do remember seeing CSM option in there.

The thing is, when I type in msinfo32 in the search bar in Win 10, in the info page I see "Bios mode: Legacy" which I think is supposed to say "UEFI".

I think it defaults back to legacy if another condition isn't er but forgot which. I don't remember, but I do remember it being complicated.
plat 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 32분 
TeamGunstar님이 먼저 게시:
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I can't remember, I'll restart PC and check brb. I do remember seeing CSM option in there.

The thing is, when I type in msinfo32 in the search bar in Win 10, in the info page I see "Bios mode: Legacy" which I think is supposed to say "UEFI".

In order to enable Secure Boot, it must be set in the Secure Boot section as "Windows UEFI mode." Not "Other OS"

For a reference point, on here, Secure Boot is ENABLED. Windows UEFI mode and CSM enabled.
Decathect 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 32분 
emoticorpse님이 먼저 게시:
TeamGunstar님이 먼저 게시:

I can't remember, I'll restart PC and check brb. I do remember seeing CSM option in there.

The thing is, when I type in msinfo32 in the search bar in Win 10, in the info page I see "Bios mode: Legacy" which I think is supposed to say "UEFI".

I think it defaults back to legacy if another condition isn't er but forgot which. I don't remember, but I do remember it being complicated.

Hmm, this is what the page says:

OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Version 10.0.19043 Build 19043
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DESKTOP-0INGECV
System Manufacturer System manufacturer
System Model System Product Name
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU SKU
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor, 3951 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 3211, 8/10/2021
SMBIOS Version 3.3
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode Legacy
BaseBoard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
BaseBoard Product TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING
BaseBoard Version Rev X.0x
Platform Role Desktop
Secure Boot State Unsupported
PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.19041.1566"

Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 15.9 GB
Available Physical Memory 10.9 GB
Total Virtual Memory 24.9 GB
Available Virtual Memory 18.0 GB
Page File Space 9.00 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and device is not Modern Standby, Un-allowed DMA capable bus/device(s) detected, TPM is not usable
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware No
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes
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emoticorpse 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 36분 
TeamGunstar님이 먼저 게시:
emoticorpse님이 먼저 게시:

I think it defaults back to legacy if another condition isn't er but forgot which. I don't remember, but I do remember it being complicated.

Hmm, this is what the page says:

OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Version 10.0.19043 Build 19043
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DESKTOP-0INGECV
System Manufacturer System manufacturer
System Model System Product Name
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU SKU
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor, 3951 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 3211, 8/10/2021
SMBIOS Version 3.3
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode Legacy
BaseBoard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
BaseBoard Product TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING
BaseBoard Version Rev X.0x
Platform Role Desktop
Secure Boot State Unsupported
PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.19041.1566"

Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 15.9 GB
Available Physical Memory 10.9 GB
Total Virtual Memory 24.9 GB
Available Virtual Memory 18.0 GB
Page File Space 9.00 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and device is not Modern Standby, Un-allowed DMA capable bus/device(s) detected, TPM is not usable
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware No
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes

Did you convert the disk to gpt yet?
Decathect 2022년 4월 12일 오후 6시 39분 
emoticorpse님이 먼저 게시:

Did you convert the disk to gpt yet?

No not yet man, I have to be up at 5am for work and it's already almost 10pm here. I'll have to try some stuff tomorrow after work.

I appreciate all the suggestions and help from you guys, thank you.

I'll report back tomorrow if I can get something going.
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