What is the difference between the MSI rx580 armour oc and the MSI rx580 gaming x?

[PlatinumSun]

They seem the same to me.

[Arya]

Are you familiar with how Partner Cards work?

Both of these cards are Radeon RX580s. They have the same basic mechanicals, but the Armour and Gaming X models have different cooling systems and that makes the Gaming X slightly quieter, slightly colder, and slightly more expensive.

For my two cents cents, you're better off with an Nvidia card. Preferably one made by EVGA or Asus.

[LiMpY]

An OC card isn't worth much. Better off sticking to default clock cards. As for heat, there isn't much. My 580's fan is only used when doing some heavy gaming.

[Monk]

The armour line up is frankly, their super cheap cards with a pretty much disposable cooler, it is underwhelming performance wise and us pretty much used as a throw away cooler for watercooling. Don't buy it to use it as an air cooler.

[Arya]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από LiMpY:

An OC card isn't worth much. Better off sticking to default clock cards. As for heat, there isn't much. My 580's fan is only used when doing some heavy gaming.

I strongly disagree. Perhaps it's different with AMD GPUs, but overclocking an Nvidia card can make a dramatic difference to framerates and gameplay. When I was struggling to run the Arkham series on my GTX970, overclocking meant the difference between playing on High and playing on Ultra with 60 FPS.

[Monk]

Overclocking g a card is different to a pre overclocked card I think was his point, the issue is, the factory overclock on cards tend to come with far better coolers, if I'm not !is taken and if the AND is the same as the nvidia options, the armour us infact a gaming X custom ocb with a cheap crap cooler, it's a card who's sole job is watercooling really, to actually use the armour cooler will result in a slower, hotter card than the gaming X version.

Only buy armour if you plan to remove the cooler.

On the nvidia side it's practically the same cooler on the 1060 armour as on the 1080ti armour lol

[John Doe]

They share the same PCB but the cooler is better on the Gaming X, just checked from the EKWB configurator.

Overclocking whatever will give you better performance, let it be an AMD, Nvidia or an Adreno phone GPU...

and this "buy Nvidia, avoid AMD" nonsense needs to stop on this forum.

[Monk]

I'll agree on that one, it should be suggest the best option for the use and price point.
At the moment, when it comes to GPU's, it's hard to suggest AMD with their mark up being worse than nvidia, you loose out on gameworks, but, you get access to freesync which is cheaper than gsync, really it comes down to whats needed and budget.

Right now, nvidia is on top, ryzen has some solid arguments for it, especially now ryzens update seems to reliably clock to 4.1GHz, and xfr2 seems to be doing the same thing as MCE does, which pretty much gives the 2600x the outright win over the 8400 now, however the 2700x Vs 8700k is still very much down to use case as to which wins.

X299 Vs threadripper is another interesting one where both have their pro's and cons.

It would be interesting to see what AMD could actually achieve if they dropped consumer GPU's and focused solely on consoles and CPU's, which is where their strength seems to lie, it's not like nvidia seems to really give a damn about their GPU's these days, as they are an entire generation ahead performance wise pretty much.

[Arya]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από John Doe:

and this "buy Nvidia, avoid AMD" nonsense needs to stop on this forum.

Speaking for myself, all AMD has to do is provide a worthwhile competitor. I recommended their GPUs plenty, before you became a regular here.

[John Doe]

If you want to suggest the OP a $300 TN panel G-Sync with a 1060, go ahead. It's a far worse choice than a QLED VA with HDR and Freesync, and an RX 580 for the same price.

[LiMpY]

My point regarding OC'd cards was it seems the first troubleshooting step is to remove OCs. I've never owned an OC card and never had issues that might be related.... just sayin recommended defaults are easier to compare with and known to be solid/reliable speeds. Is it a big deal? Maybe/maybe not.

[upcoast]

I've had no problems with the MSI Armor Rx 580 8GB OC it runs at its advertised speeds and the fans do the job while not sounding like a hair dryer.

My other GTX1070 is also an MSI Armor and no complaints with that one either.