DT 770 vs ATH-m50x vs HD 559

[Duck]

Yeah. Im trying to decide on which one to pick. I live in a seminoisy noisy environment, so id be restricted on when i can use the hd 559.

I want to use them mostly for gaming and to pair them with a modmic. Gaming headsets just dont sound good enough for the price.

Also, which amp should i get later on for them? Not an expensive one though.

Thanks :)

[anrkyuk]

If competitive gaming is your thing, go for the DT770's, get the 80Ohm version and just stick with onboard sound or a dedicated sound card, if you do decide you want an amp or go for the 250Ohm 770's a Fiio e10k will serve you well.

[Arya]

As much as I love my HD599s, I'd recommend the DT770 for your needs. The Sennheisers are wonderfully immersive, but they don't have any noise-cancelation whatsoever. For a noisy environment the DT770 is just a better choice, across the board.

Cheap and DAC/Amp don't really go together. Your only worthwhile 'affordable' option is the Fiio EK10 at around $100-ish. Fiio's fit-and-finish is terrible, but they're mechanically reliable and have no direct rivals at their price range. Your next option down is a Smartphone DAC, and your next option up costs more than twice as much.

[Duck]

Originally posted by anrkyuk:

If competitive gaming is your thing, go for the DT770's, get the 80Ohm version and just stick with onboard sound or a dedicated sound card, if you do decide you want an amp or go for the 250Ohm 770's a Fiio e10k will serve you well.

What about if i want to play a mixture lf competitive games at a competitive level and be immerssed in games like project cars or battlefield 1?

EDIT: i was also thinking of doing some sound and video editing, but not much

Originally posted by Wolfey:

As much as I love my HD599s, I'd recommend the DT770 for your needs. The Sennheisers are wonderfully immersive, but they don't have any noise-cancelation whatsoever. For a noisy environment the DT770 is just a better choice, across the board.

Cheap and DAC/Amp don't really go together. Your only worthwhile 'affordable' option is the Fiio EK10 at around $100-ish. Fiio's fit-and-finish is terrible, but they're mechanically reliable and have no direct rivals at their price range. Your next option down is a Smartphone DAC, and your next option up costs more than twice as much.

Alright, thanks :)

Originally posted by anrkyuk:

If competitive gaming is your thing, go for the DT770's, get the 80Ohm version and just stick with onboard sound or a dedicated sound card, if you do decide you want an amp or go for the 250Ohm 770's a Fiio e10k will serve you well.

The fiio e10k can only push 150 ohms though. Will that be a problem?

[Arya]

Originally posted by LoganTNZ:

Originally posted by anrkyuk:

If competitive gaming is your thing, go for the DT770's, get the 80Ohm version and just stick with onboard sound or a dedicated sound card, if you do decide you want an amp or go for the 250Ohm 770's a Fiio e10k will serve you well.

The fiio e10k can only push 150 ohms though. Will that be a problem?

Not really. You don't need a 250 Ohm headset to have a great time, I'd aim for something a lot lower than that.

Ohms do not equate to sound quality, that's an urban myth.

[Duck]

Originally posted by Wolfey:

Originally posted by LoganTNZ:

The fiio e10k can only push 150 ohms though. Will that be a problem?

Not really. You don't need a 250 Ohm headset to have a great time, I'd aim for something a lot lower than that.

Ohms do not equate to sound quality, that's an urban myth.

No, no. I was more concerned about how loud it can get. Im not one for ruining my ears with screamo, but i like to have it at a moderate level to block out anything thats happening in this so called "real world".

[Arya]

Originally posted by LoganTNZ:

Originally posted by Wolfey:

Not really. You don't need a 250 Ohm headset to have a great time, I'd aim for something a lot lower than that.

Ohms do not equate to sound quality, that's an urban myth.

No, no. I was more concerned about how loud it can get. Im not one for ruining my ears with screamo, but i like to have it at a moderate level to block out anything thats happening in this so called "real world".

DT770s are very good for blocking. They're a fully closed design, and their Noise Cancelling works really well.

As for Volume, headsets are capped at 110-ish decibels for safety reasons. I doubt you would find anything beyond that on sale today, there's too much potential for lawsuits if somebody suffered ear damage.

My 90 Ohm Sennheiser HD599s are ridiculously powerful with a Schiit Modi/Magni DAC and Amp combo. I normally run them under 40% - anything above that is unbearbly loud. They're capped at 108 for safety reasons.

[tacoshy]

Originally posted by LoganTNZ:

Originally posted by anrkyuk:

If competitive gaming is your thing, go for the DT770's, get the 80Ohm version and just stick with onboard sound or a dedicated sound card, if you do decide you want an amp or go for the 250Ohm 770's a Fiio e10k will serve you well.

The fiio e10k can only push 150 ohms though. Will that be a problem?

A FiiO stakes only 150Ohm at the data sheet. In fact nearly every HiFi Forum recommends the FiiO E10K and recommend them to pair it with the 600Ohm DT 880 which sounds better then 770 or 990 not because of the Ohm but just because the headphones are interestingly better then the others (better highs with no hissing sounds on highs).

And the truth is, the the E10K has no problem driving the 600Ohm DT 880 if set to level 5-6.

Even if you couldn't drive the Ohm perfectly the FiiO is able to get ~120dB with 600Ohm DT 880 which is still louder then it would be healthy.

[Jamebonds1]

I would suggest an amplifier. It is not pretty but it will do. http://www.schiit.com/products/

[Arya]

Originally posted by Jamebonds1:

I would suggest an amplifier. It is not pretty but it will do. http://www.schiit.com/products/

Your contribution is schiit.

I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.

Schiit are great. I have a Magni-2 Uber and Modi at the core of my setup, and I'd swear by them. They're ugly on the outside, but they're very well made on the inside. And Schiit's instruction manuals are funny enough to justify the price on their own.

The only problem is the price. This is some expensive Schiit. I paid almost $400 AUD for my system, not including the $270 headset. That's four times as expensive as a Fiio E10K. I would argue the audio and build quality are worth it, but that's a hell of a lot of money and you need either dedication or a lot of disposable income to fork out that much.

[Jamebonds1]

Originally posted by Wolfey:

Originally posted by Jamebonds1:

I would suggest an amplifier. It is not pretty but it will do. http://www.schiit.com/products/

Your contribution is schiit.

I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.

Schiit are great. I have a Magni-2 Uber and Modi at the core of my setup, and I'd swear by them. They're ugly on the outside, but they're very well made on the inside. And Schiit's instruction manuals are funny enough to justify the price on their own.

The only problem is the price. This is some expensive Schiit. I paid almost $400 AUD for my system, not including the $270 headset. That's four times as expensive as a Fiio E10K. I would argue the audio and build quality are worth it, but that's a hell of a lot of money and you need either dedication or a lot of disposable income to fork out that much.

Okay I will recommend it to you.
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_958MHA150/McIntosh-MHA150.html?search=headphone+amplifier

Or this

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/sennheiser-he1-the-worlds-most-expensive-headphone/

[Kaihekoa]

DT 770s for closed headphones. The AT M50X is overrated, but buy from a place with a return policy so you can try something else if you don't like them.

[Duck]

Originally posted by anrkyuk:

If competitive gaming is your thing, go for the DT770's, get the 80Ohm version and just stick with onboard sound or a dedicated sound card, if you do decide you want an amp or go for the 250Ohm 770's a Fiio e10k will serve you well.

Whats the difference between the 80 ohm and 250 ohm version?

If so, is it worth the extra 100 aud for an amp?

[Azza ☠]

I personally like the "Beyerdynamic MMX 300 (2nd Gen)".

- 5Hz - 35,000Hz sound range
- 96 dB sound pressure
- 32 ohms
- Closed circumaural (around the ear)
- High-quality microphone

However, if it's not on sale, it can be quite expensive.

In that case, consider "Beyerdynamic DT 770" + separate microphone, such as a "Blue Snowball".

However, what sound card or motherboard are you using to drive it?

As for Ohm (Microphone Impedance), default is 32.

Less say you wanted to plug the headphones into your smartphone or a small device. It doesn't power it, therefore requires a low 32 ohms. If you where to use a 600 ohms headphone on that, it would sound very quiet and not have the sound range.

250ohm and upward is more for professional gear or amps / dacs. If you really want to get audiophonic and have a more spacious soundstage. They however need more juice to do so.

Both have their pros and cons.

[Duck]

Originally posted by Azza ☠:

I personally like the "Beyerdynamic MMX 300 (2nd Gen)".

- 5Hz - 35,000Hz sound range
- 96 dB sound pressure
- 32 ohms
- Closed circumaural (around the ear)
- High-quality microphone

However, if it's not on sale, it can be quite expensive.

In that case, consider "Beyerdynamic DT 770" + separate microphone, such as a "Blue Snowball".

However, what sound card or motherboard are you using to drive it?

As for Ohm (Microphone Impedance), default is 32.

Less say you wanted to plug the headphones into your smartphone or a small device. It doesn't power it, therefore requires a low 32 ohms. If you where to use a 600 ohms headphone on that, it would sound very quiet and not have the sound range.

250ohm and upward is more for professional gear or amps / dacs. If you really want to get audiophonic and have a more spacious soundstage. They however need more juice to do so.

Both have their pros and cons.

I was thinking of going with the dt 770 250 ohms along with a modmic 5.0 and an amp. But what's the difference between 80 ohms and 250 ohms? Since people say 250 ohms is clearer.

I also had an idea to use the 80 ohms version and get a GSX 1000, since people are saying is has the best surround sound that even beats real surround sound.

[Kaihekoa]

Ohms is a measure of electrical resistance, thus lower resistance means the audio driver works with less power while high ohms require more power, provided by an amplifier. It is not a direct measure of audio quality. Lower ohm headphones could be easily used with a mobile or tablet/laptop device if you ever plan on using the headphones away from your desktop. If you only ever plan on using the headphones at your desktop, then higher ohm headphones would be fine if driven by an amplifier, whether that's through your mobo/sound card or a dedicated amp. Some headphones sound better with higher resistance. This explains it: https://www.cnet.com/news/headphone-buyers-heres-what-you-need-to-know-about-low-vs-high-impedance-models/