RGB fan frame daisy chain

[Ad Hominem]

I was looking at getting a couple of those Phantec RGB frames for my existing fans, which allow any fan to get RGB LEDs on them, instead of buying all new fans with RGB which is expensive and they often don't have as much air flow as I am looking for. My motherboard does have an RGB header on it - MSI Z370 Gaming M5 - and the RGB frames come with the ability to be daisy chained by design of their plug, one male and one female end on each frame.

My question is, how many of these RGB frames could you theoretically daisy chain without having them become dim or burning them out? I don't see any wattage requirments on the store page for the frames, and I have a 1000w corsair gold power supply. Should I bother getting a splitter to have smaller daisy chains in parallel or should it not matter. I know LEDs don't need much juice to light up, but I wonder if having a bunch in series would cause some noticable voltage drops.

[Monk]

Honestly haven't looked into them in to much detail as I bit the bullet on the high performance Corsair hd fans (downside as you said they are crazy expensive), but don't the phantek add one need acontrol box to get the most out of them? As for power, they'll only sip a few watts each so that shouldn't be an issue, as for the order of them, I guess that's down to the software and how it treats them (I am guessing g it may be as adressible rgb strips essentially).

[Ad Hominem]

Everything I saw online for install of the Phantek RGB frames, they only need a control box if your mobo doesn't have an RGB header. My MSI board does have the RGB header, and I'm using the MSI program MysticLight to control the RGB on the motherboard itself as well as my Trident Z RGB ram, so I was going to stick with that. I'm assuming it will just treat them as an LED strip too. I probably wont be able to individually address them since they will all come off the same single 4 pin RGB header so all 9 will be treated as one single big LED strip I guess.

My concern is that I would potentially have up to 9 RGB LEDs in series (daisy chain) coming off a single RGB header on the motherboard, and that if they draw more than the header can put out the LEDs at the end of the chain might start to dim as the voltage drops. Maybe I need to dig into the technical information about the motherboard to see if they mention the power limitations of the RGB header.

[Monk]

A control box should also have its own power to ensure that isn't an issue, I run 11 Corsair hd 120/140 fans in my system, they all run off a pair of control boxs that have separate power (basic ones not the separate commander pro I set a colour and leave it lol), so I guess you could test without and buy a box if needed.

Infact you can see the box's here on the right https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1286126272 for the record the fan controller cables in the top left are still a mess but you cannot see them lol, the rest was a big enough pain in the posterior to manage.

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A control box should also have its own power to ensure that isn't an issue, I run 11 Corsair hd 120/140 fans in my system, they all run off a pair of control boxs that have separate power (basic ones not the separate commander pro I set a colour and leave it lol), so I guess you could test without and buy a box if needed.

Infact you can see the box's here on the right https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1286126272 for the record the fan controller cables in the top left are still a mess but you cannot see them lol, the rest was a big enough pain in the posterior to manage.

Do the boxes allow you to individually address each fan? I'm kinda new to the whole RGB thing, I've been a simple red LED guy for years, but I'm ready to break loose. Does the RGB header on the mobo connect to the control boxes, or do the control boxes need a USB pin connector each on the motherboard?

[Monk]

My one is the basic system so each box controls one set of fans with a bunch of pre assigned combinations, I have the top fans on one, the bottom on the other, they aren't connected to the motherboard at all, but to a separate control box where I can set pattern / speed and colour (under the top removable grill in my case), if I was to use a commander pro, that would then be able to take full control of each led, the box's would connect to it, or the fans separately, and that then goes into a usb header I believe so it can be controlled via software.

I tend to just set the whole system to a set colour (at the moment a heaven and hell style blue up top, red on the bottom), if I wanted fancier control beyond simple chasing,or to set it up so the lights would sync top and bottom I'd need the extra box to control it.

IAM unsure how the phantek kit works, but I suspect it's very similar, so basic controls off a usb header, but more detailed control with the separate controller.
I went with the hd fans as they put out ALOT of light which completely changes the theme of my build as it's all white, the colour really impacts it, where as I think the phantek kit is more of an accent than flooding the case with light, the hd fans are also pretty damn high performance along with the fancy lighting, unlike most (even corsairs own more expensive ring fans don't have the same airflow), but at around £25 a fan, you pay for the best of both worlds.

[tacoshy]

Well for Corsair HD and LL Fan series which offer RGB you have 2 modules you need. A RGB controller which comes with the Dual or Triple packages. In case of the LL-Series the DUal Kit comes with the more expensive Corsair Lightning Node which is a RGB control box not only for fans but also RGB stripes from Corsair.

However the normal RGB Control Box only allwos you to sue some presets for RGB control while you need the lightning node or Corsair Commander Pro to control all RGB settings out of the OS. Either of thsoe 2 Boxes can control up to 2 RGB controllers (each RG Controller has 6 slots for fans). The COmmander Pro also allows you to connect 6 fans to it to control them with PMW through the OS. So if you stay under 6 fans a Commander Pro + 1 Dual HD1490 Kit and up to 4 single extension kit (HD140) gives you up to 6 fans where the Fan speed and fan lightning can controlled individually for every single fan through the OS (Corsair Link). It only requires an USB 2.0 Port on the motherboard.