1440p upgrade from 1080p?
Considering upgrading for Black Friday.

Does 1440p monitor look good when watching 1080p full screen media such as YouTube Twitch or Netflix? Or does scaling make it worse than native 1080p?

How big is the performance drop FPS wise?

Is it much different than my current 1080p 24” ips?
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What's your graphics card?

Going from 1080p to 1440p resolution is a 70% increase in pixels.

It would depend on the screen size to if it looks better or not, due to the ppi (pixels per inch) making the screen retina or not. So ideally for 1080p you might want a 19 inch monitor, yet with 1440p you would want 27 inches as a sweet spot. If you sit approx 3 feet away from it.

I would highly recommend:

ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q
(or)
ACER PREDATOR XB271HU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LTHr96NueA

You want low response time (4ms or lower), low input lag, and a high refresh rate (120ms or higher) for gaming. If your using an Nvidia graphics card, consider a G-SYNC module to smooth it out like butter. Ideally you would want a Nvidia GTX 1080 or better to run very high to ultra settings in games at that resolution.

IPS panels are richer and brighter, with better viewing angles. Ideal if you sit down on a sofa or bed at the distance from the screen to watch a movie, etc. They use to be a tad slower, but these ones are only 4ms response time, which is extremely fast. You get the best of both worlds.

You won't go wrong, just look out for screen bleed, which can be an issue with purchasing any thin edge monitor. As the backlight can escape around the edge and glow on the screen corners, during a dark scene. Most of the time this isn't even noticed. Just check your monitor and most places will let you return/replace it if really bad.

Model: Acer Predator XB270HU was updated to XB271HU to help fix this and a few other issues. So ensure it's XB271HU. Depending on the store, some test the monitors before selling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mje_fmayu0k

Apart from that, they are some seriously good eye candy performance gaming monitors, the best you probably can get.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Azza ☠; 24 Νοε 2021, 12:21
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Azza ☠:
What's your graphics card?

Going from 1080p to 1440p resolution is a 70% increase in pixels.

It would depend on the screen size to if it looks better or not, due to the ppi (pixels per inch) making the screen retina or not. So ideally for 1080p you might want a 19 inch monitor, yet with 1440p you would want 27 inches as a sweet spot. If you sit approx 3 feet away from it.

I would highly recommend:

ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q
(or)
ACER PREDATOR XB271HU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LTHr96NueA

You want low response time (4ms or lower), low input lag, and a high refresh rate (120ms or higher) for gaming. If your using an Nvidia graphics card, consider a G-SYNC module to smooth it out like butter. Ideally you would want a Nvidia GTX 1080 or better to run very high to ultra settings in games at that resolution.

IPS panels are richer and brighter, with better viewing angles. Ideal if you sit down on a sofa or bed at the distance from the screen to watch a movie, etc. They use to be a tad slower, but these ones are only 4ms response time, which is extremely fast. You get the best of both worlds.

You won't go wrong, just look out for screen bleed, which can be an issue with purchasing any thin edge monitor. As the backlight can escape around the edge and glow on the screen corners, during a dark scene. Most of the time this isn't even noticed. Just check your monitor and most places will let you return/replace it if really bad.

Model: Acer Predator XB270HU was updated to XB271HU to help fix this and a few other issues. So ensure it's XB271HU. Depending on the store, some test the monitors before selling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mje_fmayu0k

Apart from that, they are some seriously good eye candy performance gaming monitors, the best you probably can get.
3 feet away from my 27 inch monitor? thats 90cm

I am probably 50 cm away. 1.6 feet.
Am i the only one sitting so close to my monitor?
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Azza ☠:
What's your graphics card?

Going from 1080p to 1440p resolution is a 70% increase in pixels.

It would depend on the screen size to if it looks better or not, due to the ppi (pixels per inch) making the screen retina or not. So ideally for 1080p you might want a 19 inch monitor, yet with 1440p you would want 27 inches as a sweet spot. If you sit approx 3 feet away from it.

I would highly recommend:

ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q
(or)
ACER PREDATOR XB271HU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LTHr96NueA

You want low response time (4ms or lower), low input lag, and a high refresh rate (120ms or higher) for gaming. If your using an Nvidia graphics card, consider a G-SYNC module to smooth it out like butter. Ideally you would want a Nvidia GTX 1080 or better to run very high to ultra settings in games at that resolution.

IPS panels are richer and brighter, with better viewing angles. Ideal if you sit down on a sofa or bed at the distance from the screen to watch a movie, etc. They use to be a tad slower, but these ones are only 4ms response time, which is extremely fast. You get the best of both worlds.

You won't go wrong, just look out for screen bleed, which can be an issue with purchasing any thin edge monitor. As the backlight can escape around the edge and glow on the screen corners, during a dark scene. Most of the time this isn't even noticed. Just check your monitor and most places will let you return/replace it if really bad.

Model: Acer Predator XB270HU was updated to XB271HU to help fix this and a few other issues. So ensure it's XB271HU. Depending on the store, some test the monitors before selling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mje_fmayu0k

Apart from that, they are some seriously good eye candy performance gaming monitors, the best you probably can get.
3 feet away from my 27 inch monitor? thats 90cm

I am probably 50 cm away. 1.6 feet.
Am i the only one sitting so close to my monitor?

Depends a long on the screen size, what do you use? However, yeah that seems a tad close.

If you want the reason behind it...

A monitor size of 27" with a Resolution 1440p QHD
Optimal viewing distance recommendation would be between 2.6 to 3.6 ft

For being Retina, it's a calculation of: Screen resolution <> Monitor size <> Viewing distance

At the standard viewing distance of 3 feet, optimal retina display would be:

1080p resolution - 19 to 24 inch monitor (max 27 inches)
1440p resolution - 27 to 32 inch monitor (27 inches is a sweet spot, max 36 inches)
UltraHD 4K resolution - ideally at least 32 inches (minimum of 27 inches, below that is a waste)

The average human eye (with 20/20 vision) can see 300 microradians of visual acuity and has a near point of 25 cm. That works out to 75 microns, or 338 pixels per inch. But that doesn't mean you can't tell dots are there, it just means you can't see the white space between two dots.

The average computer monitor viewing distance is about 2.5 feet (762 mm). p@0.4 is 89 microns or about 300 ppi/dpi. p@1 is 222 microns or about 115 ppi/dpi.

So a standard magazine would be printed at 300 dpi (yet is read closer up) and a standard monitor would have 100 ppi or higher (depending on viewing distance).

Otherwise you can count and see the individual pixels on it (with the exception of poorer quality eye slight). Also, the fact your head and eyes would need to move if it's a huge screen to look around and see the corners, therefore slowing your reaction time in FPS (first person shooters).
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Azza ☠; 24 Νοε 2021, 13:03
I'm off topic, but my mother have an oled smartphone, very high pixel density.

I tryed HDR videos on it, why it's not possible to trick the eyes.

I tryed to check if it could work asd a virtual reality device, by putting it very close to my eyes just to check / understand if it wasd pixel density that was involved to enable pannels been put close to the eyes.

In fact, it was very blurry and erye straining.

WHat i mean and is relatyed to this topic by a lil margin, pixels quantity /dot size, doesn't mean you can put your monitor at very close distance.

But 1440p on a 27" display is good but a player with 20/20 eye accuracy or better should still distinguish pixels if he really concentrate on it.

I loved 1920x1080p on 23.8 inch monitor, but pixels was very visible especially at a shorter viewing distance compared to 27" display.


There is also a limit in height for a display, as it's reccomended against eye strain, to have the top of the monitor at eye level, to have enough tears, not dry eyes.

there is still a margin with 27" mon,itor stand, but i would not get a 40" display for sure on a desktop.

Just to end my blabla message, 27" 1440p is fine enough, 4k need a very good computer and it's not really required on that monitor size .
But some people prefer 32"

if i had the place on my desktop i would get a same height 21:9 monitor, to playh driving simulations or games compatible with this ratio.
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I got 3070 and 1080 144hz IPS 24” currently

Wanting to try a 27” 1440 ips

You will have a great exp at 1440p with a 3070, i generally find if i jump onto my 1080pv TN panel i can gain around 30-40 fps depending on the game, that is me though your system may act slightly different, but if you are currently on a 1080p TN panel and move to a 1440p Ips or the holy grail that is Samsung odyssey G7 VA panel ( i do not reccomend VA panels outside of the G7 due to ghosting) then you eyes are going to heaven my friend, i say go for it it will be the best upgrade you will have made in a very long time.
The odyssey G7 is on offer on Amazon by the way at least in the UK for 430 that's 120 off.
I ended up upgrading and I gotta say it’s not much different compared to my 24” 1080p guessing cause they are the same panel type IPS and similar ppi. Considering taking it back cause the fps drop isn’t worth it since I can’t tell much difference. Also my eyesight is not best so text and apps on the 1440 is harder to read without scaling. Also the fact most video is 1080p makes my new monitor a bit worse for media consumption outside games. Only real benefit will be with games that have dlss so I can get similar frames but higher res still. Probably better for single player games locked at 60 fps too. Also I sit kinda close so I’m not near the sweet spot for viewing distance for 1440. Honestly glad I tried it though cause I feared I was missing out but glad I was wrong.

For halo infinite and forza I have to lower my setting to get max FPS so it kinda beats the purpose of a higher res monitor. They are newer games though so I guess that’s probably why.

Overall it has more downsides than benefits with my gpu, viewing distance, and eyesight
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Jice; 25 Νοε 2021, 17:10
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I ended up upgrading and I gotta say it’s not much different compared to my 24” 1080p guessing cause they are the same panel type IPS and similar ppi. Considering taking it back cause the fps drop isn’t worth it since I can’t tell much difference. Also my eyesight is not best so text and apps on the 1440 is harder to read without scaling. Also the fact most video is 1080p makes my new monitor a bit worse for media consumption outside games. Only real benefit will be with games that have dlss so I can get similar frames but higher res still. Probably better for single player games locked at 60 fps too. Also I sit kinda close so I’m not near the sweet spot for viewing distance for 1440. Honestly glad I tried it though cause I feared I was missing out but glad I was wrong.

For halo infinite and forza I have to lower my setting to get max FPS so it kinda beats the purpose of a higher res monitor. They are newer games though so I guess that’s probably why.

Overall it has more downsides than benefits with my gpu, viewing distance, and eyesight
I went from 1080p 24in to 1440p 27in and it was a big difference to me :shrug:
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I went from 1080p 24in to 1440p 27in and it was a big difference to me :shrug:
I agree, there is some visual difference between 1080P and 1440P, I have an 21:9 Acer XR341CK (3440x1440) and 32:9 Samsung (model number is too long to recall) at 3840x1080 (basically 2x 27" 16:9 1080P monitors side by side) and picture on the latter is less refined than the 1440P monitor, it's still good. I must add that I'm 57, so my eyes aren't as good as they used to be, not saying that they were good in the first place.

My Samsung was bought at launch, before them $%#@ 5120x1440 models turned up. But, I think it's a blessing in disguise as 3840x1080 (144Hz) is way easier on my RX 6900 XT than 5120x1440 (144Hz).
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από UserNotFound; 25 Νοε 2021, 17:38
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Escorve:
I went from 1080p 24in to 1440p 27in and it was a big difference to me :shrug:
I agree, there is some visual difference between 1080P and 1440P, I have an 21:9 Acer XR341CK (3440x1440) and 32:9 Samsung (model number is too long to recall) at 3840x1080 (basically 2x 27" 16:9 1080P monitors side by side) and picture on the latter is less refined than the 1440P monitor, it's still good. I must add that I'm 57, so my eyes aren't as good as they used to be, not saying that they were good in the first place.

My Samsung was bought at launch, before them $%#@ 5120x1440 models turned up. But, I think it's a blessing in disguise as 3840x1080 (144Hz) is way easier on my RX 6900 XT than 5120x1440 (144Hz).
I noticed a big difference because of pixel density, 1080p 27in I can barely tolerate looking at now
Ordinateur\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop LogPixels key

I set it at decimal value of 109 to have the correct scaling.

As i know monitor used is 109dpi.
the scaling in windows settings / display /scaling is 114

With 1080p 23.8 inch display i had, as the dpi was under the 100% scaling value of 96dpi if i remember scaling to a lower value was impossible.

I know that graphic artist, don't need real inch or cm value to draw, but for me, i liked the idea to have font scaled, and web page at 109 dpi to show real metrics, if i would use a tool to measure.

It's completely idiotic, but it's a thing i couldn't do previously.

Anyway i would take a 1080p display if it had contrast ratio infinity, 0% uniformity deviation, 0% bleeding glowing or whatever trouble your enjoyment of dark contents, i would choose it even as a 60 hz displazy, if there was no ghosting while moving the pannel, and color representation between two different display would be similar with deltae under 1 for srgb colorometry adobe rgb, rec 2020 dcip3 hdr and whatever color space exist, with 99% or 100% gammut coverager.

Eizo has very good display over 2000 or 3000e but it's stil not contrast ratio like a crt or oled.
But it has some advantage, unfortunally the pixels response time at 60hz and some ghosting i guess is maybe not ideal for gamming :(

This is where i'm stuck with decent enough ips display with 1000 or under contrast ratio, with fast response time, but bad uniformity in gray scale and pure white.

I will wait 2030 era, maybe there would be something that would please me , but i can't find curen,tly what i'm looking for, as it's either CG eizo , or nec display at 60 or 75hz, but a bit higher response time or gaming pannels, but not selected to have low possible ammount of defects.

It need to change.
Ive built my rig 2 months ago, and i was thinking about upgrading my monitor too.
My specs are

-i7 11700k
-2x8 gb @ 3200mhz corsair vengeance
-gigabyte rtx 3060 ti
-msi mag z590 torpedo
-SSD nvme
-850w bronze psu ( nox hummer )

My question is if my gpu would be capable of make 60 stable fps in games at high settings ( not ultra)
Depends also on the games. Excluding VR, most of the games I enjoy are nearing a decade old, and this is where a high resolution display will work well. 4K monitors to me are only beneficial for working on. The Unreal Engine, for example, benefits, and you can tell from using it that it was designed to work on high resolution displays.
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από UserNotFound:
I agree, there is some visual difference between 1080P and 1440P, I have an 21:9 Acer XR341CK (3440x1440) and 32:9 Samsung (model number is too long to recall) at 3840x1080 (basically 2x 27" 16:9 1080P monitors side by side) and picture on the latter is less refined than the 1440P monitor, it's still good. I must add that I'm 57, so my eyes aren't as good as they used to be, not saying that they were good in the first place.

My Samsung was bought at launch, before them $%#@ 5120x1440 models turned up. But, I think it's a blessing in disguise as 3840x1080 (144Hz) is way easier on my RX 6900 XT than 5120x1440 (144Hz).
I noticed a big difference because of pixel density, 1080p 27in I can barely tolerate looking at now
Still, for fast paced FPS games they're still good, especially if you ramp up the AA or super sampling.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jice:
I ended up upgrading and I gotta say it’s not much different compared to my 24” 1080p guessing cause they are the same panel type IPS and similar ppi. Considering taking it back cause the fps drop isn’t worth it since I can’t tell much difference. Also my eyesight is not best so text and apps on the 1440 is harder to read without scaling. Also the fact most video is 1080p makes my new monitor a bit worse for media consumption outside games. Only real benefit will be with games that have dlss so I can get similar frames but higher res still. Probably better for single player games locked at 60 fps too. Also I sit kinda close so I’m not near the sweet spot for viewing distance for 1440. Honestly glad I tried it though cause I feared I was missing out but glad I was wrong.

For halo infinite and forza I have to lower my setting to get max FPS so it kinda beats the purpose of a higher res monitor. They are newer games though so I guess that’s probably why.

Overall it has more downsides than benefits with my gpu, viewing distance, and eyesight
If you went 4k then you could have run it at 1080p (4=1 pixel). 1440p is an odd number.
8K monitors, then you swap to 1440p 1080 or 4k with integer ratio that would be cool to have 8k monitors in that case
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