HDR or Higher Refresh Rate

[Perfect Lynk]

Hello, I wanted to to ask ya'll, if you had to choose between HDR and a higher refresh rate which would you choose and why? Doesn't matter is you play FPS or RPGs, you have to choose one for all your games.

[Perfect Lynk]

Publicado originalmente por EliteGamer:

Get a GPU with DisplayPort and use both.

My TV only has a HDMI so it would be pointless.... wouldn't it?

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Hmmmmm A display port to hdmi adapter may give you both. If your TV supports both via hdmi.

[Perfect Lynk]

Publicado originalmente por Out Of Bubblegum:

Hmmmmm A display port to hdmi adapter may give you both. If your TV supports both via hdmi.

I've looked but no display to HDMI supports AMD freesync/VRR, and VRR is too good to get rid of.

[Guydodge]

Publicado originalmente por Out Of Bubblegum:

Publicado originalmente por dOBER:

Maybe because you are used to play on 60hz/fps, right then you cant tell the difference. Once you play a few day/weeks on 144fps/hz and then try to play on 60 again it will look like stutter. This doesnt mean you never cant play on 60 again. After some time it will look "normal" again.

I will try that. I have desktop and game set to 120. In a month I will go back to 60. Then I can try 144 if my card can do that.

easier way to test go for headshots @60 and @120,144 what ever.should give you all you
need to know.you'll have your answer in 20 minutes OR you can just open a window
on your desktop and move it back and forth.
60hz does look like a flicker show to me.i can never go back.
and now ive played with 10bit color can never go back there either.
100+fps,10bit color and HDR @1440 and above will destroy your life

[Turbo6MTawD]

Let's not forget a good SDR display still looks great. And at a high resolution and high frame rate it looks even better.

HDR done properly is much better than SDR assuming you have the right display for it. But I would never forego framerate to have HDR.

[A&A]

Balanced

[Heretic]

HDR isn't something I care about. One of my monitors has it, but it isn't something that gets me off. Higher refresh rates are more important to me, but nothing silly (144hz is more than enough to work with). HDR has been around in games for years, it just means the framebuffers are using floating point numbers way beyond the 0.0-1.0 range, and then normalising that data at the end. It's what creates all those bloom effects. A good display should be enough.

In fact, even Half Life 2 uses it (they added it in a later patch).

[Heretic]

Publicado originalmente por Guydodge:

100+fps,10bit color and HDR @1440 and above will destroy your life

10bit is of no use to most people, it's something designers use. 24bit (8bit per channel) offers 16.8 million colours (32bit if you include alpha), and I know it would take quite a few increments before I could differentiate between them. Any banding issues can easily be overcome with a noise filter (I forgets the name) which are used mostly in sky boxes/spheres. What's important is that you're using the correct colour space.

[Guydodge]

Publicado originalmente por Mind:

Publicado originalmente por Guydodge:

100+fps,10bit color and HDR @1440 and above will destroy your life

10bit is of no use to most people, it's something designers use. 24bit (8bit per channel) offers 16.8 million colours (32bit if you include alpha), and I know it would take quite a few increments before I could differentiate between them. Any banding issues can easily be overcome with a noise filter (I forgets the name) which are used mostly in sky boxes/spheres. What's important is that you're using the correct colour space.

i find it a great use. it blends colors much more gradual giving off a much smoother more
realistic look in shadings as well as improved reds.which in turn improves browns alot as
well.and yes down loading the correct ICC profile is a must.and i hear those arguments all
the time no need for 144hz,60 is fine,1080 is just as good as 1440 or 4k blah blah.. try it !!!
once you take your rig to the ultra level these things do matter at med settings with poor
color cheap monitor cord ect ect..of course its not going to matter go all out you will see
the differnce.

[Heretic]

They look identical to me. What games out there create 10bit per channel buffers?

[Perfect Lynk]

Does anyone know why I can use HDR in games but not on the desktop? I'm a little curious.

[Tomi Montana]

Publicado originalmente por Mind:

HDR isn't something I care about. One of my monitors has it, but it isn't something that gets me off. Higher refresh rates are more important to me, but nothing silly (144hz is more than enough to work with). HDR has been around in games for years, it just means the framebuffers are using floating point numbers way beyond the 0.0-1.0 range, and then normalising that data at the end. It's what creates all those bloom effects. A good display should be enough.

In fact, even Half Life 2 uses it (they added it in a later patch).

Most of the source games do. I think actually in newer source games like L4D2 and CS:GO you can't disable it manually in options, only through console commands and the map itself has to be compiled with HDR support. I also never really cared about HDR monitors and still somewhat fail to understand their purpose.


@OP
Personally none of the options, but if I still had to pick from one of those two options then probably high(er) refresh rate.

[Supafly]

Higher refresh any day. Rather it look and feel smoother than look a little prettier.

[Andrius227]

I actually want anti-hdr…. My regular ips monitor is blinding me regularly.

High refresh rate is the good stuff. Although anything over 144hz is unnecessary.

[hypercybermegatron]

HDR doesn't significantly impact frame rates, therefore it's not really much of a choice tbh.

It comes down to computational demands and bandwidth at the end of the day. HDR bandwidth is deglegible relative to other factors such as frame rate and bit depth.

Frame rate Vs Bit Depth is more of a choice because increasing either of these increases bandwidth and is pushing the limits of the GPU and display.

This is actually a real choice you may have to make. For example, if have a 4k 144hz monitor and it or your GPU doesn't support 4k RGB @144hz then to get the 144hz at this resolution you'll have no choice but to use YUV 4:2:2 chroma subsampling to get 144hz, sacrificing image quality for frame rate.

I know this because I encountered this very choice on my new M32U but the choice was for Windows desktop environment. So I'm running Windows desktop at 4k RGB 60fps, but run my games 1440p RGB 144hz.