Native 4k vs Downscaled 4k to 1080p monitor?

[PainkilleR]

Let's assume there are two 24" monitors. One of them has 3840x2160 native resolution and the other has 1920x1080 native resolution.

Can you tell the difference between 3840x2160 running on a native 4k monitor and a 3840x2160 downscaled to 1080p monitor?

[A&A]

Little bit
The higher resolution will play the role as anti aliasing

Butbl think if you can enhance or override application settings will work better

[PainkilleR]

Publicado originalmente por A&A (Razor Six-Four):

Little bit
The higher resolution will play the role as anti aliasing

I mean... Pixels on 24" 1080p monitor are so small that at downscaled 4k resolution there is practically no aliasing on 1080p to begin with. So I was wondering whether putting a native 4k monitor of the same size next to 1080p one would make any difference.

[temps]

There probably wouldn't be much visible difference because the monitors are only 24"

I don't really see the point in getting super high resolution if people's monitors are still so small.

1080p resolution probably looks just fine on a 24" I used to game on a 1920x1200 resolution 28" and that looked great to me when I got it back in the day.

[PainkilleR]

This is mostly a theoretical question really. It's just that I don't have a 4k monitor of the same size to compare them properly. So I wonder if somebody has compared the same sized monitor of different native resolutions.

[ZeekAncient]

Publicado originalmente por PainkilleR:

Publicado originalmente por A&A (Razor Six-Four):

Little bit
The higher resolution will play the role as anti aliasing

I mean... Pixels on 24" 1080p monitor are so small that at downscaled 4k resolution there is practically no aliasing on 1080p to begin with. So I was wondering whether putting a native 4k monitor of the same size next to 1080p one would make any difference.

Absolutely, you would notice the difference. Now, I haven't compared a 24" 4K to a 24" 1080p but I am sure the 4K will look way better than the 1080p. I know when I first bought my 27" 1440p, and I was going from a 24" 1080p, I was blown away by the difference in fidelity that I was getting by the 1440p monitor. When I bought a 34" Ultrawide that was 3440 x 1440, I didn't notice that was a big difference in fidelity from my 27' to my 34", because theoretically they are the same resolution. But when I finally hooked up my PC to my 58" 4K, again the difference in resolution from 4K to 1440p was mind blowing. So resolution makes a big difference. I am sure if you would put a 27" 1080p and a 27" 4k side by side you will notice a big diference. Just like if you put a 1080p TV next to a 4K TV, there will be a big difference in fidelity.

[ZeekAncient]

Publicado originalmente por temps:

There probably wouldn't be much visible difference because the monitors are only 24"

I don't really see the point in getting super high resolution if people's monitors are still so small.

1080p resolution probably looks just fine on a 24" I used to game on a 1920x1200 resolution 28" and that looked great to me when I got it back in the day.

Dude you know that it doesn't matter what size the screen is right? Even if it is just 24", a 1080p screen is gonna produce 2,073,600 pixels while a 4K screen is gonna produce 8,294,400 pixels. That is a big difference. So, if you put a 24" 1080 screen next to a 24" 4K screen, you will notice a tremendous difference in fidelity. I think you would notice a difference more so than if the screens were different sizes.

[PainkilleR]

Publicado originalmente por ZeekAncient:

So resolution makes a big difference. I am sure if you would put a 27" 1080p and a 27" 4k side by side you will notice a big diference.

Just to be clear, are you sure you understood my question? The resolution makes a big difference obviously, but what if the resolution is 3840x2160 on BOTH monitors of the same 24" or 27" size?

[ZeekAncient]

Publicado originalmente por PainkilleR:

Publicado originalmente por ZeekAncient:

So resolution makes a big difference. I am sure if you would put a 27" 1080p and a 27" 4k side by side you will notice a big diference.

Just to be clear, are you sure you understood my question? The resolution makes a big difference obviously, but what if the resolution is 3840x2160 on BOTH monitors of the same 24" or 27" size?

I don't understand what you are asking. If resolution is 3840 x 2160 on BOTH monitors of the same size than they will look the same. If you are asking if you put a 3840 x 2160 resolution on a monitor that is only capable of doing 1920 x 1080, then it will not look that much better. If the monitor is only capable of displaying 1920 x 1080, putting the resolution at 3840 x 2160(which you can do, Nvidia calls it DSR, and it helps with anti-aliasing) will help with aliasing, but it cannot miraculously display that many pixels if it is not designed to do so. But there are 24" monitors that are capable of doing 3840 x 2160, and compared to a 24" monitor that can only do 1920 x 1080, it will look a lot better. But I am still confused on what you are asking.

[PainkilleR]

Publicado originalmente por ZeekAncient:

If the monitor is only capable of displaying 1920 x1080, putting the resolution at 3840 x 2160 will help with aliasing, but it cannot miraculously display that many pixels if it is not designed to do so.

Yeah, that's what I am asking. If you put 3840x2160 on a 1920x1080 monitor, the image is crystal clear without any aliasing whatsoever. What will be the difference on a 3840x2160 monitor of the same 24"/27" size? That is my question.

[ZeekAncient]

Publicado originalmente por PainkilleR:

Publicado originalmente por ZeekAncient:

If the monitor is only capable of displaying 1920 x1080, putting the resolution at 3840 x 2160 will help with aliasing, but it cannot miraculously display that many pixels if it is not designed to do so.

Yeah, that's what I am asking. If you put 3840x2160 on a 1920x1080 monitor, the image is crystal clear without any aliasing whatsoever. What will be the difference on a 3840x2160 monitor of the same 24"/27" size? That is my question.

Oh ok ya, the 3840 x 2160 monitor will look a lot better and a lot crisper. It has to do with the amount of pixels being shown on screen. If you put 3840 x 2160 on 1080p monitor, while it looks really good, it still is only showing 2,073,600 pixels. So it will help with the anti-aliasing, but the 3840 x 2160 monitor is gonna reproduce 8,294,400 pixels. That is a big difference. So naturally, the 4K monitor's image is going to be a lot better.

[PainkilleR]

Publicado originalmente por ZeekAncient:

Publicado originalmente por PainkilleR:

Yeah, that's what I am asking. If you put 3840x2160 on a 1920x1080 monitor, the image is crystal clear without any aliasing whatsoever. What will be the difference on a 3840x2160 monitor of the same 24"/27" size? That is my question.

Oh ok ya, the 3840 x 2160 monitor will look a lot better and a lot crisper. It has to do with the amount of pixels being shown on screen. If you put 3840 x 2160 on 1080p monitor, while it looks really good, it still is only showing 2,073,600 pixels. So it will help with the anti-aliasing, but the 3840 x 2160 monitor is gonna reproduce 8,294,400 pixels. That is a big difference. So naturally, the 4K monitor's image is going to be a lot better.

From what distance would you say the difference would be visible on such a small display assuming that you have a normal vision acuity?

[ZeekAncient]

Publicado originalmente por PainkilleR:

From what distance would you say the difference would be visible on such a small display assuming that you have a normal vision acuity?

Normal distance for a PC monitor. Arms length. The 4K screen will look a lot better. I went from a 24" inch 1080p screen to a 27" 1440p and I was amazed at how much better the 1440p image was. Now I know it is a difference of 3 inches, but that isn't that much. When I went from 1440p to 4K, again the difference was mind blowing.

[Heretic]

4k on 24" is a waste of time and resources, and in-game I wouldn't see any difference compared to a 1440p. I even did a comparison between a 4k 28" and a 2k 35" UW. They have the same height and in-game they looked about the same, but with the UW using a lot less resources.

4K is basically pointless unless it's a big TV or a very large monitor. I don't care about the hype or those who try and justify their purchases with hype. I believe my own eyes.

[mario43]

Im playing on 3840x2160 4k on my graphic card compatibility but on 1920x1080 60Hz monitor its no any big diference to see.