ZeekAncient 2021 年 12 月 1 日 上午 10:26
I can no longer stand Nvidia! They are an arrogant, greedy, and selfish company.
While I love my 3070Ti, which I hope to step up to a 3080 soon if Nvidia and EVGA can step up their game, as I have been in EVGA's step up program queue since August, I can't help but feel frustrated and disgruntled with Nvidia. As I read up on how the RTX 40 series cards maybe closer on the horizon than we think, I can't help but feel that 2022 is a bad year for a company like Nvidia, or even AMD, to release a new generation of GPUs. I wish they were more responsible and have some moral decency, and pay attention to the current climate. Considering the current supply shortage and how people can't even get and are still waiting for 30 series cards at MSRP, how are you going to go ahead and release another series of 40 series cards that will most likely just be scooped up by scalpers and miners, and simply just make the whole situation worse.

And I know that Intel will be releasing their new brand of GPUs. But these will only be competing with current gen Nvidia and AMD cards. There is no need for another generation of super expensive GPUs that normal gamers will not be able to get their hands on at decent price, when these gamers are still waiting to get their hands on 30 series cards at normal price. And I don't care if the 30 series came out in 2020, or this was part of Nvidia's roadmap, current gamers will finally get their hands on a 30 series card, or worse still waiting, and Nvidia will pretty much throw salt on the wound and say, nope, those are obsolete!! And even then, they still won't be able to get their hands on the 40 series cards.

I wish they would, as well as AMD, wait until 2023 or at least till the supply shortage is better so that way they can guarantee that they will be able to get these GPUs into the hands of gamers that can get them at MSRP. They say they care about gamers, and that gamers are their main consumer, but they clearly don't, and clearly gamers aren't their main concern. Their main concern is the almighty dollar, and they don't care if that is coming from gamers, or scalpers and miners.

As long as Nvidia'a highest priced tech stock remains high and continues to rise and they keep getting richer and richer, they don't care if gamers are left out and can't get these things. Just as long as they make that money, no matter if it comes from miners or scalpers. So be responsible Nvidia, look at the climate, wait to release these cards. But we all know you won't. So ♥♥♥♥ you Nvidia!! I can't stand you and I may have bought my last product from you!!

Just my rant for the day. I can go about my business now. Just thought I would share. Also, I am not stating facts, lol, just an annoyed Nvidia customer ranting about things to get it off his chest. Please do not take it personal. I am an Nvidia user and have been for years. Just a little rant for amusement purposes.
最後修改者:ZeekAncient; 2021 年 12 月 2 日 下午 6:54
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Heretic 2021 年 12 月 2 日 下午 2:33 
Nvidia went downhill after the GTX 1000s. Ever since the first so-called crypto boom in 2018 they've shown themselves up as relentless corporate fascist parasites. America can't do anything because every President and American political party is basically owned by the corporate heavy weights, at least in some capacity. Thanks to globalisation it's spreading around the world where the consumer rights in smaller countries takes a back seat to suit the corrupt officials.

It may eventually lead to war, but to be honest, that's better than paying double for a gfx card. I like my gaming.
Yistaan 2021 年 12 月 2 日 下午 3:44 
HHH33 2021 年 12 月 2 日 下午 4:08 
引用自 max
The situation for the consumer sucks, and I can't see it becoming any better soon.
well said, say 4000 series is 20% faster but inflation is 20% higher still. Then you get bowhere except at the top end, where few are. But what about timing? now or in 1-2 months? Hard to say imo, since there might be a release around the corner.

引用自 Mind
Nvidia went downhill after the GTX 1000s.
Yeah, they are great while they work.
HHH33 2021 年 12 月 2 日 下午 4:20 
引用自 ZeekAncient
could deliver more polygons.
I'd buy a modern card that had none of the fancy pixel shader / ray tracing / hair nonsense. Nintendo got it right with the n64, just add fog to hide pop-up. I like the ps1 and quake 1 look better though, mipmaps are overrated. Imagine a modern card with only a small amount of memory, like 1gb, with divers that downscale textures and ignore bumpmaps (but can pretend like they're in use), but is modern and fast at drawing your polygons. And has view distance fog. My dream card, anyway. Low ram should make mining impossible, also.
ZeekAncient 2021 年 12 月 2 日 下午 6:38 
引用自 Felix
Why do you even upgrade from 3070ti to 3080.
Thats so much money for such a small step up imo

Unless you sell the 3070ti for 3080msrp
Which is still cheap bdw

Dude it is not a straight upgrade of a 3070Ti to 3080. I am not paying full price for a 3080. It is the EVGA step-up program. See, once they are ready, they will send me an email. I will pay the difference in cost from the 3070Ti to a 3080, which is about $100. I will send them my 3070Ti, and then they will send me a brand new 3080 in return. What I wanted was a 3080 to begin with but at the time could only get an EVGA 3070Ti at MSRP. So with the EVGA step up program I can give them my 3070Ti and they will give a 3080 in return. So yea it kind of is like selling my 3070Ti back to them at MSRP and then I buy a 3080 at MSRP. Check it out! It is the EVGA Step-up program and they are the only company I think that does it. I mean the 3070Ti is good but at 4K, I want a little more oomph and vram. The 3080 gives me that extra oomph and 2 more gigs of vram.
最後修改者:ZeekAncient; 2021 年 12 月 2 日 下午 6:58
ZeekAncient 2021 年 12 月 2 日 下午 6:40 
引用自 Yistaan
Seems like the US Federal Trade Commission agrees with the OP: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2021/12/ftc-sues-block-40-billion-semiconductor-chip-merger

Yes I was just reading that. The FTC is suing Nvidia over their acquisition of ARM.
Der tüddelige Fußgänger 2021 年 12 月 2 日 下午 10:34 
引用自 ZeekAncient
引用自 Felix
Why do you even upgrade from 3070ti to 3080.
Thats so much money for such a small step up imo

Unless you sell the 3070ti for 3080msrp
Which is still cheap bdw

Dude it is not a straight upgrade of a 3070Ti to 3080. I am not paying full price for a 3080. It is the EVGA step-up program. See, once they are ready, they will send me an email. I will pay the difference in cost from the 3070Ti to a 3080, which is about $100. I will send them my 3070Ti, and then they will send me a brand new 3080 in return. What I wanted was a 3080 to begin with but at the time could only get an EVGA 3070Ti at MSRP. So with the EVGA step up program I can give them my 3070Ti and they will give a 3080 in return. So yea it kind of is like selling my 3070Ti back to them at MSRP and then I buy a 3080 at MSRP. Check it out! It is the EVGA Step-up program and they are the only company I think that does it. I mean the 3070Ti is good but at 4K, I want a little more oomph and vram. The 3080 gives me that extra oomph and 2 more gigs of vram.
Well in that case
Have fun with your 3080 :)
nd hope it doesn't take too long for them to ship
ZeekAncient 2021 年 12 月 3 日 上午 12:59 
引用自 Felix
引用自 ZeekAncient

Dude it is not a straight upgrade of a 3070Ti to 3080. I am not paying full price for a 3080. It is the EVGA step-up program. See, once they are ready, they will send me an email. I will pay the difference in cost from the 3070Ti to a 3080, which is about $100. I will send them my 3070Ti, and then they will send me a brand new 3080 in return. What I wanted was a 3080 to begin with but at the time could only get an EVGA 3070Ti at MSRP. So with the EVGA step up program I can give them my 3070Ti and they will give a 3080 in return. So yea it kind of is like selling my 3070Ti back to them at MSRP and then I buy a 3080 at MSRP. Check it out! It is the EVGA Step-up program and they are the only company I think that does it. I mean the 3070Ti is good but at 4K, I want a little more oomph and vram. The 3080 gives me that extra oomph and 2 more gigs of vram.
Well in that case
Have fun with your 3080 :)
nd hope it doesn't take too long for them to ship

Well, I am still in the their queue. Waiting for them to have stock in their inventory and once they do, they will send me an email, I will pay the balance, send my card in, and wait for them to send the 3080 back. I hope it doesn't take too long either, but they said they do their best to do everything as quick as possible so there is not a lot of downtime while I wait for a GPU. I still have a 1070Ti from another rig I can throw in and a 780 too while I wait. Lol, though I doubt I will use the 780. But yes I do hope it doesn't take too long either and can't wait to have a 3080, even if it is just a small improvement over my 3070Ti. Cheers! :)
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tonimark 2021 年 12 月 3 日 上午 4:09 
MAN I TOTALLY I AGREE WITH YOU! lets go all with AMD AMD CARES ABOUT GAMERS
ZeekAncient 2021 年 12 月 3 日 上午 4:43 
引用自 Surreal
How are people getting ahold of 3080's. 3080ti's and 3090's at msrp? Everytime I look they are out of stock or double the price. I always thought £500-£600 for a gpu alone was expensive but now they are anywhere between £1200 - £2200.

You have to be signed up for companies or store's alert system. Or you can sign up for the Newegg shuffle, which has a lottery everyday, and if you get lucky, you can get picked and get a card in stock that is pretty close to MSRP. But lets say you want a GPU from EVGA, you can go and sign up for their alert system, they will put you in their queue, and when they have stock, they will alert you and you can buy a card at MSRP. As for me, I got my 3070Ti through ANTonline.com at the end of July. They are usually out of stock, but one day they had cards in stock but you had to buy it as part of a bundle. So, I also had to buy an EVGA PSU(which I used in my new build), an EVGA keyboard, an EVGA mouse, and the game Days Gone. Now it was a little over $1000, but I got an EVGA 3070Ti, an EVGA SuperNova 750GT, an EVGA X17 mouse, an EVGA Z15 mechanical keyboard, and Days Gone. So I got all that but everything was at MSRP, so it was much better than paying scalped prices for a GPU. But other than that, sign up for the Newegg Shuffle everyday, be on website's and companies early alert system for when they get stock, keep an out on youtube channels that monitor GPU stock at MSRP, keep searching everyday as much as possible, and pray, and eventually you might get lucky and spot a GPU in stock at MSRP, or get lucky and see a bundle such as mine, if that is a route you are willing to go. I ended up building a new PC, so the bundle came in handy.
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based af 2021 年 12 月 3 日 下午 3:59 
It's too bad the retail market get last dibs. Nvidia and their partners (=asus, msi, evga etc) will always prioritize large volume buyers first (OEM's, system integrators, large mining operators) before retail customers.

Given that we had three quasi-force majeure situations in the world developing at the same time (crypto boom, COVID, and the chip shortage), it shouldn't come as a surprise that it's hard to get your hands on a new GPU these days. Scaling up semiconductor production to respond to booming demand is hard if not impossible (building a new fab takes years and costs billions), and given that there's reports of shortages of basic semiconductors like PMIC's and silicon substrate, it wouldn't make a big difference if Nvidia suddenly doubled their GPU production if you can't get the aforementioned parts that are necessary for a GPU to actually work.
Pocahawtness 2021 年 12 月 3 日 下午 11:07 
Yep NVIDIA do seem to be out of touch,

Not that they care much, there are other markets for GPU's other than gamers.

They will release the next generation on time, they can't afford to fall behind their competition. They might not seem to have much competition but intel are on the horizon.

I think the best hope of popping NVIDIA's bubble is intel. Intel is a force to be reckoned with.
Washell 2021 年 12 月 4 日 上午 7:25 
引用自 ZeekAncient
But I can still be annoyed and frustrated when they do such things. And the fact that you would back a cooperation such as this when you should just take the rant for what it is and be on the side of the consumer.
<sigh>

For the millionth time on these forums, explaining potential/likely reasons why an entity does or does not do certain things does not mean I personally agree with it. I'm not defending Nvidia, I'm saying they just as stuck as we are. They are literally leaving billions on the table by being unable to satisfy demand. They're as unhappy as we are. They rather sell 100,000 units at $800 than 10,000 at $1800

引用自 ZeekAncient
It doesn't matter if it is in a journal, blog, discussion on steam, in a magazine, whatever....I never said I was stating facts, just an opinion. A rant for my own amusement. It doesn't matter where it is, if you don't like it and it affects you as such, then just ignore it. Who cares. I think you have missed the point. You have taken it way too serious and for some reason it almost appears that you take it personal. Again I ask, who cares? I have my opinion, I ranted about it, and then I laughed.
In today's day and age, whether you call it venting, ranting, an opinion piece or whatever, it's no longer harmless. You're not doing it to one or two people, but to dozens, hundreds, or thousands. It's easily copied, pasted, and spread. Saying it's an opinion piece when you're factually wrong does not absolve you and if Nvidia bothered, they could track you down and sue you for libel.

The storming of the capitol, pizza gate, a good part of the antivax movement and many, many other examples in the news are the end result of online trolling, ranting, and people too lazy or close minded to learn the facts. So yes, we all should take this a lot more serious. If you don't want to, and just want to releave some feelings, go into nature and shout "♥♥♥♥ Nvidia". Works the same, with little to none subsequent fallout. We're all laughing at the "silly" idea of someone shooting up Nvidia's HQ over GPU prices until it actually happens.
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