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Welke grafische kaart en processor heb ik nodig? (NL)
Hoi hoi, hopelijk zijn er wat slimme Nederlanders hier :)

Ik speel momenteel op een Sony Vaio laptop waar dus bijna niks het meer op doet. Ik heb zelf totaal geen verstand van spel specificaties en grafische kaarten etc. Ik weet wat de aanbevolen eisen zijn van de spellen die ik graag wil spelen (en wat op deze laptop dus niet gaat), zal ze hier even op een rijtje zetten.

Planet Zoo:
Vereist een 64-bitsprocessor en -besturingssysteem
Besturingssysteem: Windows 10 64bit
Processor: Intel i7-4770k / AMD Ryzen 5 1600
Geheugen: 16 GB RAM
Grafische kaart: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (8GB) or AMD Radeon RX 580 (8GB)
Opslagruimte: 16 GB beschikbare ruimte

Ranch Simulator:
Vereist een 64-bitsprocessor en -besturingssysteem
Besturingssysteem: Windows 10 (64-bit versions only)
Processor: Intel Core i7-4790 or AMD Ryzen 3 3200G
Geheugen: 12 GB RAM
Grafische kaart: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB / GTX 1660 Super or Radeon RX 590
DirectX: Versie 12
Opslagruimte: 15 GB beschikbare ruimte

The infected:
Besturingssysteem: Windows 7+ (64 bit)
Processor: Intel Core i5-2400/AMD FX-8320
Geheugen: 8 GB RAM
Grafische kaart: NVIDIA GTX 670 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB
DirectX: Versie 10
Opslagruimte: 6 GB beschikbare ruimte

Farming simulator:
Vereist een 64-bitsprocessor en -besturingssysteem
Besturingssysteem: Windows 10 Home (x64)
Processor: Intel Core i5-5675C or AMD Ryzen 5 1600 or better
Geheugen: 8 GB RAM
Grafische kaart: GeForce GTX 1060 or Radeon RX 570 or better (min 6GB VRAM)
DirectX: Versie 11
Netwerk: breedbandinternetverbinding
Opslagruimte: 35 GB beschikbare ruimte
Geluidskaart: Sound card
Aanvullende opmerkingen: These system requirements can´t cover all possible system configurations so issues could occur that influence the functionality in some cases.

Ik speel bijv ook de sims 4, truck simulator, animal shelter, prison simulator en dat soort zooi.

Ik heb nu dus geen idee wat het minimaal moet zijn bij de processor en grafische kaart en waar ik allemaal op moet letten.. Ik weet dat intel Core 7 beter is als 5 maar veel verder kom ik niet. De bedoeling is dat ik deze spellen op hoge kwaliteit kan spelen en de boel niet crascht.

Ik heb zelf bij de mediamarkt zitten kijken maar zou echt niet weten wat nou goed is...
Hopelijk kan iemand me helpen :)
Mijn budget is voor nu maximaal 1500 euro. hopelijk kan ik hier toch iets leuks voor krijgen waar ik die spellen op kan spelen.

Groetjes Eefje
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It's funny how similar dutch is to german :)
So lets see if i can help, with my limited dutch understandings

Ehm 1500 bucks is of course a good budget

When it comes to the cpu.
A modern intel i5 or ryzen 5 are powerful enough for all games.
Even in a modern game like cyberpunk. My ryzen5 3600 is powerful enough for max settings. So a i5 10th or 11th gen should be enough for now and years to come.

16gb ram are enough for pretty much all games, except if you go crazy with multitasking i.e. Discord, ms office, ms Teams, Steam, epic games, origin etf... open in the background. 16 gb can get small. But if you don't have 20 apps open at the same time 16 is more than enough

About the gpu. You hopefully know already that gpu's are very limited.

So either you get ripped off by an overpriced nvidia 1060-70. Amd rx 580-90. and buy a new gpu when they become available. OF course those gpu's are a bit older but should still be ok enough.

And don't forget about the gaming gear, such as a monitor and a gaming keyboard and mouse.


Hope this helps. I can only somewhat understand dutch and i don't know if you can understand german

Frag ruhig, wenn noch fragen offen sind :)
Geen Nederlands, maar vertalen (dus excuses voor fouten).

Grafische kaarten zijn in een zeer dure staat vanwege bepaalde marktomstandigheden. Als je bereid bent om met een pre-built te gaan, kun je meestal iets beters krijgen voor hetzelfde geld.

Je gaf een budget van 1.500 euro, maar heb je alleen de pc-toren nodig of al het andere zoals monitor, toetsenbord, muis en speakers (of koptelefoon)?

Het goede ding is dat dit geen superveeleisende games zijn (sommige lijken aanbevolen en niet ook minimaal), dus als je niet op zoek bent naar superinstellingen met hoge framesnelheden en resoluties, dan zou je een pc moeten kunnen krijgen voor dat budget dat ze zal spelen. Ik ben niet bekend met uw lokale keuzes, dus ik laat iemand die daar aanbevelingen doet.

Zoiets als een Core i5 10e generatie met 16 GB RAM (of beter) en welke GPU je ook kunt passen bij de rest van het budget, zou mogelijk moeten zijn en zou dat allemaal aankunnen.

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Not Dutch, but translating (so apologies for errors).

Graphics cards are in a very expensive state due to some market conditions. If you're willing to go with a prebuilt, you can usually get something a little bit better for the same money.

You gave a budget of 1,500 euros, but do you only need the PC tower or everything else like monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers (or headphones)?

The good thing is those aren't super demanding games (some of those look like recommended and not minimum as well) so if you're not looking for super settings at high frame rates and resolutions, then you should be able to get a PC for that budget which will play them. I'm not familiar with your local choices so I'll let someone who is make recommendations there.

Something like a Core i5 10th generation with 16 GB RAM (or better) and whatever GPU you can fit in with the rest of the budget should be possible and would handle all that though.
Dankeshön,

I can understand Deutsch, I'm half nederlands half Deutsch haha! So you can answer in deutsch, i only can read and understand but not writing :p,also my englisch is realy bad.

Im looking for a game laptop, so i will not need a keyboard or monitor. My plan was to buy a standart laptop. I know that you can buy one and replace something with something better but im not good with that. I Know now that i can choose between intel core 5 or 7, of Ryzen. I dont know witch one is the best from Ryzen i think also 7? So here im already stuck haha.

I don't realy understand the gpu thing and nvidia and amd, can you explain the difference to me?

Thankyou so much!
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Geen Nederlands, maar vertalen (dus excuses voor fouten).

Grafische kaarten zijn in een zeer dure staat vanwege bepaalde marktomstandigheden. Als je bereid bent om met een pre-built te gaan, kun je meestal iets beters krijgen voor hetzelfde geld.

Je gaf een budget van 1.500 euro, maar heb je alleen de pc-toren nodig of al het andere zoals monitor, toetsenbord, muis en speakers (of koptelefoon)?

Het goede ding is dat dit geen superveeleisende games zijn (sommige lijken aanbevolen en niet ook minimaal), dus als je niet op zoek bent naar superinstellingen met hoge framesnelheden en resoluties, dan zou je een pc moeten kunnen krijgen voor dat budget dat ze zal spelen. Ik ben niet bekend met uw lokale keuzes, dus ik laat iemand die daar aanbevelingen doet.

Zoiets als een Core i5 10e generatie met 16 GB RAM (of beter) en welke GPU je ook kunt passen bij de rest van het budget, zou mogelijk moeten zijn en zou dat allemaal aankunnen.

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Not Dutch, but translating (so apologies for errors).

Graphics cards are in a very expensive state due to some market conditions. If you're willing to go with a prebuilt, you can usually get something a little bit better for the same money.

You gave a budget of 1,500 euros, but do you only need the PC tower or everything else like monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers (or headphones)?

The good thing is those aren't super demanding games (some of those look like recommended and not minimum as well) so if you're not looking for super settings at high frame rates and resolutions, then you should be able to get a PC for that budget which will play them. I'm not familiar with your local choices so I'll let someone who is make recommendations there.

Something like a Core i5 10th generation with 16 GB RAM (or better) and whatever GPU you can fit in with the rest of the budget should be possible and would handle all that though.



Thankyou!
I can understand englisch but i don't think you can understand mine haha!
I'm looking for an complete laptop, like go to the store buy the thing en put it on at home haha. I don't understand all those terms and gaming language and have no experience with it. Now im playing on a Sony Vaio intel core i5 direct x 11, most of the games i said in my message don't work. So im afraid that when i take an intel 5 is to low, i also dont understand the generations haha. I need to go to a store en and ask all of this but im afraid the will sort of scam me because i know nothing haha
I don't know if you can understand or open this but this is an example of a gaming laptop witch i think is oke but realy expensive and i don't know if everthing is good or if there are any cons.

https://www.paradigit.nl/asus-rog-g713qe-hx009t/21146594/product/3046

https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/product/_msi-gf76-11uc-437nl-1711524.html
Последно редактиран от Eefje93; 29 ноем. 2021 в 8:37
Your English is understandable enough, but I don't mind running it through a translator if it helps you (and doesn't butcher my message in the process).

So it sounds like you need a whole setup then, the PC tower, monitor, and peripherals and not only the PC itself.

I'm not sure about Netherlands specifically but we have quite a few from Europe at least who frequent these parts, so one of them may be more familiar with your currency costs and options. It might not be anything "fancy" by enthusiast standards but I'd guess that budget should be enough get you something that can play those games well enough regardless (and be way better than what you are using right now).

And don't worry too much about tech terms, your current laptop doesn't work NOT because it has a Core i5 (Core i5 can be good so don't worry there) but probably because it has no graphics card.
Първоначално публикувано от Felix:
So lets see if i can help, with my limited dutch understandings

With all due respect Felix, and I really mean no harm, but I don't think it's the wisest choice to help other people regarding hardware issues......
Just going trough your comments shows a huge lack of understanding the most basic things.
3600 and max settings.....Jeeez.....

Again, I mean no harm but just leave it to people who understand what they're doing, like Illusion for example.

And it's more than obvious that you used a Dutch translator. I don't know why you would lie about this ?!
Последно редактиран от Meatball; 29 ноем. 2021 в 8:51
Първоначално публикувано от Eefje93:
I don't know if you can understand or open this but this is an example of a gaming laptop witch i think is oke but realy expensive and i don't know if everthing is good or if there are any cons.

https://www.paradigit.nl/asus-rog-g713qe-hx009t/21146594/product/3046

https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/product/_msi-gf76-11uc-437nl-1711524.html
Ah, so you want a laptop not a desktop. My apologies.

Both of those would probably run what you are wanting to play well. From what I'm finding, the Core i7-11800H in the second laptop is usually a hair better then the Ryzen 7 5800H is in the first laptop, but the first laptop has a "Ti" model graphics card which would make it better. The first also has a slightly higher cost with it so they are probably close, but I would probably chose the one with a better graphics card if you are willing to spend the extra on it.

Do you see any options in your price range with a GTX 1660 6 GB instead of of the RTX 3050 4 GB? That's the only thing I'd look further into. The "lower number" GTX 1660 is actually a hair faster than the RTX 3050 (even Ti), but more importantly has 50% more VRAM which might matter more in some cases. If not, it's not a deal breaker but I'd see if you can find one.

Besides that, those specifications are good enough for the games you listed. Your current one struggles probably due to a lack of a graphics card at all (or just has a really outdated one).

Edit: Another apology, but both laptops appear to have the RTX 3050 Ti model. The"full" specifications on the one omitted the Ti part so I thought it didn't have it, but the drop down box shows it is a Ti model as well. Just make sure you choose 16 GB and not 8 GB.

So the major difference is basically the CPU (Core i7 a bit better than Ryzen 7) and storage space (Ryzen model has twice the SSD space). Choose based on which you prefer. Both are still good enough options.
Последно редактиран от Illusion of Progress; 29 ноем. 2021 в 8:56
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I don't know if you can understand or open this but this is an example of a gaming laptop witch i think is oke but realy expensive and i don't know if everthing is good or if there are any cons.

https://www.paradigit.nl/asus-rog-g713qe-hx009t/21146594/product/3046

https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/product/_msi-gf76-11uc-437nl-1711524.html
Ah, so you want a laptop not a desktop. My apologies.

Both of those would probably run what you are wanting to play well. From what I'm finding, the Core i7-11800H in the second laptop is usually a hair better then the Ryzen 7 5800H is in the first laptop, but the second laptop has a "Ti" model graphics card. The second also has a slightly higher cost with it so they are probably close, but I would probably chose the one with a better graphics card if you are willing to spend the extra on it.

Do you see any options in your price range with a GTX 1660 6 GB instead of of the RTX 3050 4 GB? That's the only thing I'd look further into. The "lower number" GTX 1660 is actually a hair faster than the RTX 3050 (even Ti), but more importantly has 50% more VRAM which might matter more in some cases. If not, it's not a deal breaker but I'd see if you can find one.

Besides that, those specifications are good enough for the games you listed. Your current one struggles probably due to a lack of a graphics card at all (or just has a really outdated one).


Thankyou! So GTX is better than RTX? Didn't know that I also have to look at VRAM but im getting somewhere know thankyou
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Ah, so you want a laptop not a desktop. My apologies.

Both of those would probably run what you are wanting to play well. From what I'm finding, the Core i7-11800H in the second laptop is usually a hair better then the Ryzen 7 5800H is in the first laptop, but the second laptop has a "Ti" model graphics card. The second also has a slightly higher cost with it so they are probably close, but I would probably chose the one with a better graphics card if you are willing to spend the extra on it.

Do you see any options in your price range with a GTX 1660 6 GB instead of of the RTX 3050 4 GB? That's the only thing I'd look further into. The "lower number" GTX 1660 is actually a hair faster than the RTX 3050 (even Ti), but more importantly has 50% more VRAM which might matter more in some cases. If not, it's not a deal breaker but I'd see if you can find one.

Besides that, those specifications are good enough for the games you listed. Your current one struggles probably due to a lack of a graphics card at all (or just has a really outdated one).


Thankyou! So GTX is better than RTX? Didn't know that I also have to look at VRAM but im getting somewhere know thankyou
Normally, just on their own, RTX is better, but the 3050 is the lowest RTX model and it's a bit slower than the GTX 1660 model. Not really by much... but the 4 GB VRAM versus 6 GB VRAM makes it worth considering. It could be the difference of using some nicer texture or video settings, for example, but both GPUs are "about as fast" outside of that so don't worry too much about it. I just wanted to add it in case you might have that option to get the most of your money.

Check my prior edit, I made a mistake at first. If it comes down to those two laptops, both are basically fine. Both have the same graphics but one has a slightly better CPU (not by much) whereas the other has twice the storage space. I'm not sure if you'd consider 512 GB enough so your choice to make (if 512 GB is enough then may as well take the cheaper and better Core i7 model, if you want more than 512 GB then go with the Ryzen model).
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Dankeshön,

I can understand Deutsch, I'm half nederlands half Deutsch haha! So you can answer in deutsch, i only can read and understand but not writing :p,also my englisch is realy bad.

Im looking for a game laptop, so i will not need a keyboard or monitor. My plan was to buy a standart laptop. I know that you can buy one and replace something with something better but im not good with that. I Know now that i can choose between intel core 5 or 7, of Ryzen. I dont know witch one is the best from Ryzen i think also 7? So here im already stuck haha.

I don't realy understand the gpu thing and nvidia and amd, can you explain the difference to me?

Thankyou so much!
Ok laptop ist der nachteil, dass du dir die Teile natürlich nicht aussuchen kannst.
Bei Laptops ist zu beachten, dass dir Teile oftmals schwächer sind als die Desktop gegenstücke
Eine 3080 z.B. ist auf einem Laptop nicht so schnell wie die Fette PC karte.

Ryzen sind die Prozessoren von AMD. Bei Intel heisen dir CPUs halt I3 i5 etc. Bei amd stattdessen ryzen 3, 5 etc.

Beide sind ziemlich gute Marken

Grafikkarten:

Da gibt es amd und Nvidia
Nvidia Karten gelten als im Schnitt schneller und besonders bei Raytracing und Dlss hat Nvidia die Nase vorn
Neue amd 6000 Karten unterstützen zwar raytracing, du musst aber mit mehr performance verlußt als bei Nvidia rechnen. Dlss unterstütztzen amd Karten garnicht
Nur vermeide intel grafik, die sind viel zu langsam und können fast nix.

Außer du bist wie ich und benutzt Linux, da bleibt dir quasie nur AMD weil Nvidia Treiber nicht so gut sind wie die AMD Mesa Treiber :steammocking:
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Thankyou! So GTX is better than RTX? Didn't know that I also have to look at VRAM but im getting somewhere know thankyou
Normally, just on their own, RTX is better, but the 3050 is the lowest RTX model and it's a bit slower than the GTX 1660 model. Not really by much... but the 4 GB VRAM versus 6 GB VRAM makes it worth considering. It could be the difference of using some nicer texture or video settings, for example, but both GPUs are "about as fast" outside of that so don't worry too much about it. I just wanted to add it in case you might have that option to get the most of your money.

Check my prior edit, I made a mistake at first. If it comes down to those two laptops, both are basically fine. Both have the same graphics but one has a slightly better CPU (not by much) whereas the other has twice the storage space. I'm not sure if you'd consider 512 GB enough so your choice to make (if 512 GB is enough then may as well take the cheaper and better Core i7 model, if you want more than 512 GB then go with the Ryzen model).


Thankyou,
Didn't think it was this hard to find one... its a lot of money so i want to make the right choice.
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Dankeshön,

I can understand Deutsch, I'm half nederlands half Deutsch haha! So you can answer in deutsch, i only can read and understand but not writing :p,also my englisch is realy bad.

Im looking for a game laptop, so i will not need a keyboard or monitor. My plan was to buy a standart laptop. I know that you can buy one and replace something with something better but im not good with that. I Know now that i can choose between intel core 5 or 7, of Ryzen. I dont know witch one is the best from Ryzen i think also 7? So here im already stuck haha.

I don't realy understand the gpu thing and nvidia and amd, can you explain the difference to me?

Thankyou so much!
Ok laptop ist der nachteil, dass du dir die Teile natürlich nicht aussuchen kannst.
Bei Laptops ist zu beachten, dass dir Teile oftmals schwächer sind als die Desktop gegenstücke
Eine 3080 z.B. ist auf einem Laptop nicht so schnell wie die Fette PC karte.

Ryzen sind die Prozessoren von AMD. Bei Intel heisen dir CPUs halt I3 i5 etc. Bei amd stattdessen ryzen 3, 5 etc.

Beide sind ziemlich gute Marken

Grafikkarten:

Da gibt es amd und Nvidia
Nvidia Karten gelten als im Schnitt schneller und besonders bei Raytracing und Dlss hat Nvidia die Nase vorn
Neue amd 6000 Karten unterstützen zwar raytracing, du musst aber mit mehr performance verlußt als bei Nvidia rechnen. Dlss unterstütztzen amd Karten garnicht
Nur vermeide intel grafik, die sind viel zu langsam und können fast nix.

Außer du bist wie ich und benutzt Linux, da bleibt dir quasie nur AMD weil Nvidia Treiber nicht so gut sind wie die AMD Mesa Treiber :steammocking:


ahhh okee, jetzt verstehe ich es irgendwie glaube ich haha. Thankyou!
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https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/product/_asus-tuf-gaming-f17-fx706li-hx205t-1698505.html

I think this is the german link:
https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/product/_asus-tuf-gaming-f17-fx706hc-hx007t-2728193.html

https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/product/_acer-nitro-5-an517-52-77le-1681559.html

Are these better? Because the price is a bit lower. But these have GTX right?
Those are GTX 1650 Ti (not GTX 1660 Ti) and that is why. The RTX 3050 Ti typically falls between the GTX 1650 Ti and GTX 1660 Ti, so in order of preference, I'd say...

GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB > RTX 3050 Ti 4 GB > GTX 1650 Ti 4 GB.

If you can't find a model with a GTX 1660 Ti (that doesn't also make compromises elsewhere) then one of those two RTX 3050 Ti models you originally linked is good. The RTX 3050 Ti GPU is about as fast as the GTX 1660 Ti GPU, it just has less VRAM but they are otherwise close enough. That is why I originally mentioned it since you can sometimes find them for around the same cost.

Otherwise I'd base your decision on whether you think you need 1 TB instead of 512 GB and if that is worth spending more for. If you don't the cheaper one is slightly better. If you need space then the more expensive fits your needs better.
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