Ryzen 5 5600x + RTX 3060 ti really underwhelming?

[Ted Snark]

A got a new pre built pc with aforementioned hardware and when I tested AC odyssey today I was pretty disappointed as the game stutters badly even when lowering settings. I also was playing GR Wildlands with a friend the other night and then it was working just fine but now even that game stutters to some degree. I've tried several things to remedy this to no avail. Even OCing the cpu doesn't seem to do anything. I have the newest Nvidia drivers installed also. I thought this kind of a pc could run AC odyssey without too much stuttering as my older one with i7 4790K and 1070 ran it pretty well without any major sacrifices in settings.

[emoticorpse]

If it was working fine at one point then it demonstrated the hardware is working to it's potential. What exactly got installed or changed to make it run like it does now is what you have to figure out. And I don't have the patience to go tl;dr for you to probably still not figure it out.

What I will say is it'd help if you go to userbenchmark.com and run their free benchmark thing then it opens a web page and paste the link to it here so we can see. Also google CPU-Z validator and click on the 1st link or whatever and do the same exact thing with their software.

Apart from that it seems your drivers WERE working fine, so most likely it's some other 3rd party software or antivirus or something. Try removing stuff off your startup (google how to do that) and uninstalling stuff you don't need (especially if you recently installed it).

[CZI]

CPU is +18%
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X/2384vs4084

GPU is +43%
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3060-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1070/4090vs3609

I'd rather replace only GPU for same cost unless you want to have additional system.

If you are not sure about graphics setting, NVidia GeForce Experience's optimization may help.

You might not optimized well yet for gaming. Better to check any antivirus, auto updater, background process and notifications.

[Set-115689]

What kind of prebuilt? Hp, Dell, other?

Temperatures ok?

limit the framerate?

run userbenchmark and link results webpage? might show something?

[Ted Snark]

Originally posted by Set-115689:

What kind of prebuilt? Hp, Dell, other?

Temperatures ok?

limit the framerate?

run userbenchmark and link results webpage? might show something?

I ran unigine heaven and the score was just fine, about 5200 which should be good for my setup. And GR Wildlands ran fine when I was playing it with a friend but today it was stuttering for some reason. I'm not sure what has changed as I have not installed anything that should affect the performance of my pc. The pc is a custom built, it's mostly Asus parts I think, but my GPU is an EVGA one. And my temps have been fine, I use a custom fan profile that keeps my pc at the proper temps.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Run metrics and monitor fps. Have a frame time graph up so you can see the stutter in action. When the stutter happens, quickly look at your metrics and see what part is fussing about.

Is it the CPU? Unhealthy storage device? Short on ram and paging? GPU showing strange behavior? Is it power related? Malware? Unhealthy UEFI settings?

Just start with those basics and you'll probably find it.

[Ted Snark]

Originally posted by The Hardware ʬhisperer:

Run metrics and monitor fps. Have a frame time graph up so you can see the stutter in action. When the stutter happens, quickly look at your metrics and see what part is fussing about.

Is it the CPU? Unhealthy storage device? Short on ram and paging? GPU showing strange behavior? Is it power related? Malware? Unhealthy UEFI settings?

Just start with those basics and you'll probably find it.

Let's hope there's nothing unhealthy as I just got this pc...But yeah I'll have to figure out what's causing the stutter in games as this pc should be able to run these games at least in 60 fps without this much stuttering.

[ZeekAncient]

What system drive are you using? Is it a mechanical hard drive(HDD) or an SSD?

Edit: Actually, the stuttering has to do with the AMD 5600X, I am pretty sure. I have seen many threads with AMD CPUs causing stuttering. It has to do with a setting in the bios.

I don't have an AMD CPU, but I believe it has to do with CPPC in the bios being broken. It needs to be disabled. But you might want to do some extra research on that.

To all out there that have AMD CPUs and have the stuttering problem, is the CPPC setting that needs to be disabled? What else if anything?

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Have you tried GeForce experience? Maybe try letting it optimize the game. Before you roll up your sleeves. It something I always try first.

[Ted Snark]

Originally posted by The Hardware ʬhisperer:

Have you tried GeForce experience? Maybe try letting it optimize the game. Before you roll up your sleeves. It something I always try first.

I thought that GFE optimize is actually bad for games...Or so I've heard.

Originally posted by ZeekAncient:

What system drive are you using? Is it a mechanical hard drive(HDD) or an SSD?

It's an SSD. So that shouldn't be the problem. Unless it's already effed up somehow...

[ZeekAncient]

I have just copied this from someone else, but this was their solution to the the stuttering problem on AMD CPUs. It has to do with CPPC in the BIOS being broken.

If games are installed on the HDD, that would be a big part of the cause. Other than that, disable CPPC, CPPC preferred cores, AMD Cool N Quiet, and Global C-State Control in BIOS.

CPPC is broken and causes performance issues, and the latter two are both power saving features.

Make sure your power plan is one of the Ryzen power plans (given by the chipset driver from AMD)

[Ted Snark]

Originally posted by ZeekAncient:

I have just copied this from someone else, but this was their solution to the the stuttering problem on AMD CPUs. It has to do with CPPC in the BIOS being broken.

If games are installed on the HDD, that would be a big part of the cause. Other than that, disable CPPC, CPPC preferred cores, AMD Cool N Quiet, and Global C-State Control in BIOS.

CPPC is broken and causes performance issues, and the latter two are both power saving features.

Make sure your power plan is one of the Ryzen power plans (given by the chipset driver from AMD)

I don't have a ryzen power plan on this pc, just the normal ones. I tried to search that CPPC and other stuff in my bios with no luck so far...my MB is asus prime x570-p if that helps.

[ZeekAncient]

Just type CPPC in the search discussions on Steam and you will see other threads.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Originally posted by Billy The ♥♥♥:

Originally posted by ZeekAncient:

I have just copied this from someone else, but this was their solution to the the stuttering problem on AMD CPUs. It has to do with CPPC in the BIOS being broken.

If games are installed on the HDD, that would be a big part of the cause. Other than that, disable CPPC, CPPC preferred cores, AMD Cool N Quiet, and Global C-State Control in BIOS.

CPPC is broken and causes performance issues, and the latter two are both power saving features.

Make sure your power plan is one of the Ryzen power plans (given by the chipset driver from AMD)

I don't have a ryzen power plan on this pc, just the normal ones. I tried to search that CPPC and other stuff in my bios with no luck so far...my MB is asus prime x570-p if that helps.

Aye, That means you don't have the amd chipset driver installed for the x570. You can download it from AMD.

Disabling the cppc is something that I wouldn't do as that is the technology that your ryzen uses to select a preferred core. But you could always try it. keep in mind you're turning off technology that you paid for and could potentially run less efficient.

[Julien, cut it out.]

Originally posted by ZeekAncient:

Just type CPPC in the search discussions on Steam and you will see other threads.

I found it: https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/3203748171380679112/#c3203748171381721838

AC:Odyssey's performance is lackluster. Use DXVK.: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SpecialK_Mods/discussions/0/2271447149931768216/#c2271447149933742923
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SpecialK_Mods/discussions/0/2271447149931768216/#c2254560552297469189

[Ted Snark]

Originally posted by Bananarama:

Originally posted by ZeekAncient:

Just type CPPC in the search discussions on Steam and you will see other threads.

I found it: https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/3203748171380679112/#c3203748171381721838

AC:Odyssey's performance is lackluster. Use DXVK.: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SpecialK_Mods/discussions/0/2271447149931768216/#c2271447149933742923
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SpecialK_Mods/discussions/0/2271447149931768216/#c2254560552297469189

I don't know, AC Odyssey has ran better on older hardware for me, and the weird thing is, in Odysseys benchmark my average is over 100 fps and I cap it to 60 in game and still there's this weird stuttering that wasn't there on my previous computers...EDIT: I tried to lower my settings for AC Odyssey to high, which should for sure give rock solid 60 fps and it still stuttered, I think the problem is somewhere else...