Nvidia scaling and sharpening

[fenderjaguar]

Does anyone know a way of getting sharpening ONLY, on the latest nvidia drivers, without scaling on the GPU?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

There is a box to tick to enable/disable GPU scaling there.

[fenderjaguar]

I know, but it's "scaling and sharpening". You don't seem to be able to use the sharpening, unless you also turn the scaling on.

The sharpening is great now, almost as good as AMD CAS. But using this scaling option is terrible. a lot of games show horrible compression artifacts, especially on the skyboxes. The sky in Half Life 2 and RAGE just look terrible.

I'd turn it all off and just use the ported AMD CAS with reshade, but it seems dumb doing that for every game, if I can do it from drivers and have it automatically applied to every game

[Bad 💀 Motha]

But it still provides you the options.

> Image Sharpening %
> Film Grain Filtering %
> GPU Scaling On or Off

You can change all 3 from that one setting.
If you Enable GPU Scaling from this option, it locks your GPU Scaling on a Global Level into "Aspect Ratio" and will lock you out of the ability to change GPU Scaling options on the "Adjust Desktop Size and Position" area of NV-CP. But again, just don't tick the GPU Scaling box if you don't want to lock down the GPU Scaling to Aspect Ratio. Some older games you might want to apply GPU Scaling = Full Screen on.

[fenderjaguar]

What GPU do you have, bad motha?
and can you post me a picture of this tick box, because I think it's different for me, dependent on my setup
I have a GTX 1650 Super
this what it looks like for me:

https://i.ibb.co/3Bdf4nF/scaling.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/3Msxd1q/scaling2.jpg

[hawkeye]

I have a 1080ti. The extra options (film grain slider and gpu scaling checkbox) appear in the grey dialog box for me. Your card is possibly too low end to get the full set of options.

[fenderjaguar]

Originally posted by hawkeye:

Your card is possibly too low end to get the full set of options.

It could be more the other way around. Do you see integer scaling as an option in the "adjust desktop size and potition" section for your 1080ti? Can you use it?

I've just put my 750ti back in the computer, and I see the same options you do.

Can someone with a Turing or above Nvidia GPU tell me that they see for the scaling section?

[Washell]

Originally posted by Super Cyborg:

What GPU do you have, bad motha?
and can you post me a picture of this tick box, because I think it's different for me, dependent on my setup
I have a GTX 1650 Super
this what it looks like for me:

https://i.ibb.co/3Bdf4nF/scaling.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/3Msxd1q/scaling2.jpg

I think Bad Motha is looking in/at the geforce experience tool rather than the nvidia control panel.

https://icdn.digitaltrends.com/image/digitaltrends/geforce-experience-image-sharpening-1827x1267.jpg

Could try setting it to 85% to see if that gets rid of the artifacts

[fenderjaguar]

Originally posted by Washell:

I think Bad Motha is looking in/at the geforce experience tool rather than the nvidia control panel.

no I think I understand what he's talking about since I put the 750ti back in. I can see those options now

washell, you're turing or above, right?

[Washell]

Originally posted by Super Cyborg:

washell, you're turing or above, right?

No.

[fenderjaguar]

oh, ok, what GPU then?

do you see the film grain option in nvidia control panel, or does it look the same as mine?

[EliteGamer]

It's got nothing to do with what GPU you have, NVIDIA changed it in newer drivers. For example, in the last "standard" driver from September last year, the image scaling in NCP had all those options, but with recent drivers the OP is correct, film grain isn't there and sharpening and scaling are combined now, but on older drivers you could adjust each separately.

[fenderjaguar]

thanks for confirming, elitegamer.

I think the horrible compression artifacts problem is something my end. Now that I have put the 1650 back in, DDU and clean install latest drivers, I don't get the problem.

The new sharpening is pretty awesome but I still prefer the AMD CAS without scaling on GPU

[Bad 💀 Motha]

These options even shows on one of my old systems with GTX 970

Yes stop using the "Standard" Drivers also and use the latest "DCH" ones.

[fenderjaguar]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

These options even shows on one of my old systems with GTX 970

yeah well it will do. I don't think they have made maxwell support the new scaling way

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Yes stop using the "Standard" Drivers also and use the latest "DCH" ones.

not sure I know what this means. will look into it, thanks

edit - seems I already have the DCH driver installed :)

[Illusion of Progress]

Hm, random passer-by then to who is having trouble seeing the consensus. Is sharpening and scaling supposed to be independent? Here's what I see on my system (GTX 1060 and older driver version 457.09 and it states "DCH" whatever that is).

https://imgur.com/a/cU3bvRW

Will this change/go away if I were to be on more current drivers?

I ask because I noticed sharpening was added a while back but never used it. However, since the shaders I play Minecraft with added a sharpening option when using TAA, I've found I have more of a liking to it than i thought I would. I probably won't globally use it and never tried it elsewhere yet... but the idea that it was an option would be nice.