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I also got my brother a Rival 110, and you're right, it's not a palm grip mouse, but it's possible to, but if you mainly palm, don't bother with it.
Still, it's a great mouse.
You should have a look into Zowie EC1-B or EC2-B. Similar shape to Deathadder, but better build quality, downside is no software control, which isn't a big issue for most people.
Or as you mentioned, the G403, although I don't know how that's going to perform, as I haven't read much into it, it just looks like it would be nice to palm.
Autumn: I know myself too well and if middle scroll won't work I'm going to loose my temper :D so I will skip Razer mouses. Rival 110 is indeed quite nice, but it's not my type (too small). Zowie EC1-B is heavier so I need to read more about it, thanks :)
Monk: Asus rog spatha is too expensive for me :(
If any of you tried Logitech 403 please let me know - this is really strong choice, but I'm starving for some opinion :)
Could always order all options from amazon and return the ones you don't like.
^ agree!
RJN's review on the G403[www.rocketjumpninja.com]
^ I quite like the Logitech series, as it's based upon the MX518, which was the original hardcore old school gamers mouse that had everything a gamer wants and nothing they don't, plus it lasted for 8-12 years with continuous daily usage.
G40X - A side-series for smaller hands
G50X - A lazer wired version of the MX518, ideal for larger hands
G90X - A lazer wireless version, note if getting the G503 there are two versions, one with a better/newer sensor in, that last a lot longer in battery life plus has a higher accuracy. It can also wirelessly charge from the mouse pad itself... or be cable wired up to ensure continuous gaming, charging while still using it.
Suggest: Logitech G903 Lightspeed Mouse with the 16k Hero Sensor
Couple with a Logitech G Powerplay Wireless Charging mouse pad or a Razer Goliathus Speed Edition mouse pad.
ps: Most Razor products are terrible, as they throw too much marketing gimmick features it breaks on you. However, the Razor Deathadder mouse is an exception to this and also has all the features a gamer wants and nothing they don't. Another quality option.
Azza:
You've written most razor products are not that good, but deathadders are exception. There are 3 types of deathadder (or more) -> Elite, Lancehead and Essential. Do they feel the same, but have different DPI's? Because I was thinking about Essential as it's cheapest and still has 6k dpi (i don't need anymore im not playing any fps games and im slowpoke :D). I was playing on 3.2k dip almost all my life and it was fine - I got used to it :p
Do you now what are the differences between Elite, Lancehead and Essential of Razer products?
But, ignore the DPI of a sensor, it doesn't matter;
For one, no one will ever use that high of a DPI, and past a certain point, the sensors get smoothing. So there's an actual negetive to using higher DPI.
So long as the mouse you're looking at has a decent sensor, that's all you really need to care about.
Which, most most these days use a great sensor, so it wouldn't really matter, just pick what suits your hand / has the features you want.
I honestly don't know the Lancehead version...
However it was the "Razor DeathAdder Elite" which I was referring. It's ideal for shooter games, such as CounterStrike (a fav with e-Sports players), etc. However, it's an all-rounder quality feel design. Despite years of iterations, Razer never messes with the Deathadder's shape. So it comes down to the sensor being changed and a few extra features, etc.
The Deathadder Elite uses a 16,000 CPI optical sensor.
Some people like optical over lazer for FPS gaming purposes. It's not as accurate as lazer, but faster to react (you can spin around quick and do reflect twitching shots better, where split second counts, rather than the perfect pinpoint aim). The mouse pad itself will also affect it differently. Again I would suggest the Razer Goliathus Speed Edition mouse pad, however there's a control edition as well if you wanted slower pace with more control.
ps: The Logitech G50X or G90X is more ideal for lazer accuracy, if you do a mix of gaming and applications (it's actually the Razer Goliathus Speed Edition mousepad which gets the speed back up for it and why I personally suggest that with it, but that's optional). I would suggest the Deathadder towards more hardcore FPS usage as it's main focus (it still can do the rest, but more targeted towards that).
One more question. When I was trying Bloody V8 vs Razer Deathadder I've noticed Bloody was more "glidy" on my pad then Deathadder (I've liked it better, because my hand was not hurt in any way). Can you buy some metal/plastic thingy and add it under your mouse or it's better to actually replace the pad? Or maybe it depends on something else?
Like I've said Bloody was gliding all across pad (I was using it for 5 years) and 1 year Deathadder was resistant to my pad.