opinions on this 4 TB SSHD?

[SHREDDER]

I will buy this 4 TB SSHD on Monday https://www.skroutz.gr/s/7186500/Western-Digital-Blue-SSHD-4TB.html?keyphrase=Western+Digital+Blue+SSHD+4TB.
I wanted to buy SSD but they are too expensive for 4TB for now. Right now i have 1 TB HDD. I will keep that too. And i will buy that SSHD so i can have 5 TB in total. What do you think?

[tacoshy]

引用自 EliteGamer：

引用自 SHREDDER：

xbox x? at low settings maybe it can but not at max 4k 60 fps that pc runs it. And yes 970 still can run all games at 4k 60 fps but only on low settings that why since i have 1440p monitor i play all of them at native 1440p maxed instead of 4k DSR low settings becasue 1440p max settings look much better than 4k/4K DSR low settings. Anyway if there is not any good SSD deals tomorow then i wlll buy on Monday 4 TB SSHD for 180 euros

The Xbox X isn't using low settings though.... It's a mixture of high settings and medium.. I've seen Forza 7 on the Xbox X and it looks great. I couldn't tell much difference with it compared to the PC version., and yes, I play Forza 7 all maxed out except for AA with a 1080 Ti. Like I said, a £450 console and it can give you that 4K experience. You cannot deny that the Xbox X is awesome and it also plays 4K ULTRA movies. Xbox X is excellent value for money.

nobody denied that fact that it is a good value for its money.
Just to stake that a Xbox X is as powerfull as a GTX 1070 or comparable to it is simply wrong.

[Andrius227]

引用自 SHREDDER：

I will see if there is big discounts on SSD tomorow due to black friday i might consider to get a 3 TB Samsung 850 Evo . If even tomorow with the the black friday discount SSD prince is still high then i will get this 4 tb SSHD.

2-4tb SSDs will always cost a ton. Why do you even want that much?? Games dont even benefit from ssds all that much. Just get a 500gb ssd for os and maybe a couple of games, and then get a 2-4tb hdd for games and everything else.

[SHREDDER]

That what i will do get a 4 TB SSHD. They faster than HDD but a little bit slower than SSD however they are much more cheaper.

[Oriflame]

WD is dependable; I went through Seagate drives at a belt-fed pace in the past, absolute nightmare. Have not once had an issue with WD drives whether HDD, USB, SSD, or M2.

引用自 EliteGamer：

引用自 tacoshy：

Well the OS does highly profit from a SSD games not...

SSD only improve loading times of a game.

Case A: Loading time from games like Company of Heroes (1) doesnt change with a SSD at all
Case B: Loading time from games like AC Black Flags go down from 3 seconds dwon to 2.5 seconds
Case C: Loading time from games like World of Tanks change from 8 seconds down to 2 seconds and instead of waiting for 32 seconds until the match starts change to 38 seconds...
Case D: Is the minority of games like Fallout 4 where you have so many loading points that a difference of 3-4 seconds loading time stacks up


All in all, SSD's compared to fast HDD like WD Gold or WD Black have no impact despite lowering a bit the loading times which in most cases makes no difference.

Nope. SSD's don't just effect loading times. They have less hitching/stuttering and less pop ins. GTA 5 for example, really helps being installed on SSD. Like I said before, at 4K it even states on alot of games system requirements like Gears of War that it's best to have game installed on SSD.

Absolutely no difference https://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/10/hdd_vs_ssd_real_world_gaming_performance/5

[SHREDDER]

引用自 loki1944：

引用自 EliteGamer：

Nope. SSD's don't just effect loading times. They have less hitching/stuttering and less pop ins. GTA 5 for example, really helps being installed on SSD. Like I said before, at 4K it even states on alot of games system requirements like Gears of War that it's best to have game installed on SSD.

Absolutely no difference https://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/10/hdd_vs_ssd_real_world_gaming_performance/5

exacly that. It depends on cpu ram and graphics card the game perfomance not HDD or SSD. Since i already have very strong cpu and ram and a good while a bit old still very good graphics card and a high resolution monitor(24'' 1440p) that all that matters.

[Andrius227]

引用自 SHREDDER：

That what i will do get a 4 TB SSHD. They faster than HDD but a little bit slower than SSD however they are much more cheaper.

http://hdd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/WD-Black-2TB-2013-vs-Seagate-FireCuda-SSHD-2TB-2016/1821vs3903

SSHD's are basically regular HDD's with a tiny bit of ssd cache which doesnt make much difference at all.

[MoltenFrost2021]

people are going to blow so much money on SSD's...just get a 2TB drive and be done with it

[Andrius227]

引用自 damien5700：

people are going to blow so much money on SSD's...just get a 2TB drive and be done with it

The ideal and most popular way is to get ~120 or 250 gb ssd for os and 1 or 2tb hdd for everything else. That way you get amazing performance in everything except games, but even games load a bit faster due to being on a dedicated drive...

SSD's are just pointless for games. Because it only affects loading times. But it makes a huge difference for windows, and not just boot times, but general speed and responsivenes.

[[☥] - CJ -]

引用自 loki1944：

WD is dependable; I went through Seagate drives at a belt-fed pace in the past, absolute nightmare. Have not once had an issue with WD drives whether HDD, USB, SSD, or M2.

引用自 EliteGamer：

Nope. SSD's don't just effect loading times. They have less hitching/stuttering and less pop ins. GTA 5 for example, really helps being installed on SSD. Like I said before, at 4K it even states on alot of games system requirements like Gears of War that it's best to have game installed on SSD.

Absolutely no difference https://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/10/hdd_vs_ssd_real_world_gaming_performance/5

that article is almost 4 years old, SSDs and HDDs/SSHD's have been enhanced a bit since then.

The MAIN DIFFERENCE has to do with Loading times, Not FPS.

SSDs are not pointless for games when it comes to games like BF4, ARMA 3, BF1, etc so on so forth. SSDs allow MUCH quicker map transition loading than on a traditional HDD. How quickly you can load in Does make a difference on those types of games.

Games like that, you gain a small advantage with an SSD
All other games are perfectly fine on a HDD/SSHD
It varies from game to game
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And yeah, a 250GB SSD and a 1TB or 2TB HDD/SSHD is the standard thing to do these days.
With a 250GB SSD, you'll still have plenty of room for around 2 large games, with other games going on the other drive.
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For SSHD's, the cache aspect of it comes into play as an OS drive, it helps with Windows boot times over a normal HDD, whether or not it'll help with games depends on the size of the SSD cache, but for Windows its a definite.

Ive had my 1TB Firecuda as a game drive for a few months now, its definitely better than my previous lesser HDD, and ive seen it max out at near 200MB/s, which is pretty good for a HDD.
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And guys, keep in mind that when using that userbenchmark site as a reference, A LOT of things can vary greatly depending on how the PC of each person is configured. Its USER benchmarks after all, not professional level where all the tests are consistent.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

引用自 tacoshy：

引用自 EliteGamer：

Sorry, but the Xbox X is more powerful. It can play Forza 7 at 4K 60 fps and a GTX 970 cannot. A 970 is a 1080p card. The GPU in the Xbox X is comparable to a 980 Ti / 1070. It's a very impressive console and extremely good value at £450 here in the UK. Please find me a PC that can do 4K 60 at £450??? You simply cannot. Also, console are nice and compact as well. There are many perks to consoles compared to PC. I'm not somebody who limits myself to one side. Gaming is gaming end of the day.

the secret is optimization of console hardware as all consoles are identical, PC's are not and therefor games cant be optimized to utilze all differend PC's at their full potencial. That doesnt mean that a XBox One X is as strong as a 970.

引用自 EliteGamer：

Nope. SSD's don't just effect loading times. They have less hitching/stuttering and less pop ins. GTA 5 for example, really helps being installed on SSD. Like I said before, at 4K it even states on alot of games system requirements like Gears of War that it's best to have game installed on SSD.

And GTA V is case D: and stuttering is msotly about RAM and VRAM not about a SSD. same for PUBG. I f you have fast drive and 16GB RAM and 6GB+ VRAM I never got stutterin on a WD Gold

NO, it is about the SSD usage.

I've tried games such as this on many configs. From low budget to the best.
All still have the same slow pop-in issues until the game is running off an SSD.

Now yes sure if you're on a GTX 1050 + 8GB RAM, good luck having a really good game experience anyways regardless of SSD or not, but overall it's basically proven that many demanding games should be ran off an SSD. The reasons are very simple as to why.

[Big Boom Boom]

引用自 EliteGamer：

Sorry, but the Xbox X is more powerful. It can play Forza 7 at 4K 60 fps and a GTX 970 cannot. A 970 is a 1080p card. The GPU in the Xbox X is comparable to a 980 Ti / 1070. It's a very impressive console and extremely good value at £450 here in the UK. Please find me a PC that can do 4K 60 at £450??? You simply cannot. Also, console are nice and compact as well. There are many perks to consoles compared to PC. I'm not somebody who limits myself to one side. Gaming is gaming end of the day.

GTX 1060 6Gb can play Forza 7 4k maxed settings at higher frame rate than XBox One X at lower settings. Comparable to GTX 1070 LMAO.

GTX 1070 can play Forza 7 at 5k maxed settings and the 1080 Ti go upward to 6k (maxed scaling).

[SHREDDER]

i will buy the 4TB SSHD on Monday. But with the annoucment that 20 TB SSHD coming in 2018 and with more and more games having 4k textures that results in 100 gb size each one of them like middle earth shadow of war, for how long will 5 TB be ok? I will also keep my curret 2011 1 TB HDD so i will have 5 TB in total.

[SHREDDER]

But i also look at those 4 TB http://www.plaisio.gr/anavathmisi-diktia/apothikeusi/hdd-skliros-diskos.htm?PCDISK_CAT=HDD|Hybrid&CAPACITY=4%20TB that as you see they cost 130-150 euros but those are HDD not SSHD so they are alower than the WD SSHD iam planning to buy

[Andrius227]

If you look up the benchmarks you will see that WD Black 4TB HDD is ~185MB/s while WD Blue 4TB SSHD is only ~150MB/s.

Sources:
http://www.storagereview.com/wd_blue_sshd_4tb_review
http://www.storagereview.com/wd_black_4tb_desktop_hard_drive_review_wd4003fzex

Meanwhile, Samsung 850 EVO SSD's do ~500MB/s.

[SHREDDER]

Βut 850 EVO SSD is too much expensive at 1 TB or more. Hmm.... I see here that https://www.skroutz.gr/s/9298688/Western-Digital-Black-4TB.html#specs WD black has same price as SSHD 4TB. But if WD Black is faster then i will get that of course! Any faster than WD Black at same price(about 180-200 euros)?