I5-8400 with Rtx 3070ti Will this combo work?

[bruucee]

I am re-biulding my Pc this fall. Around the Raptor Lake New Intel Cpu. Right now I have a Gtx 1060 6gb. I can get the 3070 ti for 639 new. If I swap out my gpus will my performance be worse due to bottlenecking? Should I pass up the 3070ti and wait until I rebuild my whole computer?
Using a z730 arous gaming 5 board. 2Tb m.2 nvme ssds.16 gb of memory. 650watt Psu.

[_I_]

it will work, but the locked 8th gen i5 is weaker for newer games
6 cores no ht, 2.8 base clock
putting a better cooler on it will allow it to hold turbo speeds for longer


if you are gaming at a higher res, the gpu will be worked harder


when upgrading only a gpu, performance will never be worse than it was before
you can still be limited at by the cpu

you have a z370 board, keep an eye out for a 8xxxk-9xxxk cpu

[bruucee]

Originally posted by _I_:

it will work, but the locked 8th gen i5 is weaker for newer games
6 cores no ht, 2.8 base clock
putting a better cooler on it will allow it to hold turbo speeds for longer


if you are gaming at a higher res, the gpu will be worked harder


when upgrading only a gpu, performance will never be worse than it was before
you can still be limited at by the cpu

you have a z370 board, keep an eye out for a 8xxxk-9xxxk cpu

So If I am playing recently released games like Dying Lite 2 I should up the resolution?
I typically play at 1080p or 1440p on less graphically intensive games.

[_I_]

with the 3070ti you should be able to play at 1440p

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by bruucee:

I am re-biulding my Pc this fall. Around the Raptor Lake New Intel Cpu. Right now I have a Gtx 1060 6gb. I can get the 3070 ti for 639 new. If I swap out my gpus will my performance be worse due to bottlenecking? Should I pass up the 3070ti and wait until I rebuild my whole computer?

No, you won't get worse performance by adding a faster GPU. A bottleneck just means "this is the slowest link in the chain that is preventing otherwise higher performance at this moment". You would therefore get, at worst, the same performance you have now. Though, that would only happen if you literally always had a CPU bottleneck all of the time right now. With a Core i5 8400 and a GTX 1060, you're not.

Originally posted by _I_:

when upgrading only a gpu, performance will never be worse than it was before

This.

[dOBER]

Worse performance? no but you can play nearly any game on ultra with this gpu. Your fps will not be higher because of your cpu but you could increase your graphic settings. Even more you can increase your resolution with DLDSR. Many games will look incredible amazing on 5160x2160 at your 1440p monitor. Best combination is DLDSR 2.25 + DLSS if possible. I have DLDSR enabled for every single game and its amazing if have unused gpu power left as in your case.

[HALO_run]

Originally posted by bruucee:

I am re-biulding my Pc this fall. Around the Raptor Lake New Intel Cpu. Right now I have a Gtx 1060 6gb. I can get the 3070 ti for 639 new. If I swap out my gpus will my performance be worse due to bottlenecking? Should I pass up the 3070ti and wait until I rebuild my whole computer?
Using a z370 arous gaming 5 board. 2Tb m.2 nvme ssds.16 gb of memory. 650watt Psu.

you'll need at the lest a 9th gen intel
get a i7 9700k if you can find one cheap that is if not i5 9600k works well

[Tomi Montana]

i´d say probably go for it if you are comfortable spending that high amount of cash.
639 Euros is somewhat cheap for a new RTX 3070 Ti, are you sure you are not getting ripped off?
639 euros buys you basically a RTX 3060 in brand new condition in today´s market, that´s a lower tier card with a much bigger performance deficit.

[ZeekAncient]

That CPU will bottleneck the 3070 Ti if you are playing at 1080p. It might not be in all games, but in CPU intensive games, the i5 8400 will bottleneck the 3070 Ti and you will not see the full potential of the GPU.

If you are at 1440p or higher it won't be so bad. In this case you will be more GPU limited and the CPU will not hold you back. For the most part, you will be able to see the full potential of the GPU. However, even at 1440p, in CPU intensive games and situations, the i5 8400 may hold you back and you could experience microstutter.

I would definitely try to get a better CPU to pair with a 3070 Ti. But if it is just a temporary upgrade, you can definitely make it work. I have a 10700K with a 3070 Ti, and at 1080p, the 10700K still bottlenecks the 3070 Ti in CPU intensive games. Not at 1440p or 4K though.

BTW, people say that you couldn't get worse performance with this GPU than your current GPU with your CPU, but people don't quite understand CPU bottleneck. If you are at 1440p, don't worry about it, but if you are at 1080p, you could literally not see your GPU be able to get close to 100% in some CPU intensive games.

In fact, if it was a severe bottleneck, and the CPU couldn't push the GPU enough to give you even 50% usage, and you were getting 100% usage with your old GPU, you could see less FPS with the new more powerful GPU. But this is an extreme case, and I don't think you would have to worry about that with your current hardware.

[my new friend]

Originally posted by Tomi Montana:

639 Euros is somewhat cheap for a new RTX 3070 Ti, are you sure you are not getting ripped off?
639 euros buys you basically a RTX 3060 in brand new condition in today´s market, that´s a lower tier card with a much bigger performance deficit.

Prices for the 3070ti have been going down far more than the other 3000 series cards. Near msrp in most cases.

[Tomi Montana]

Originally posted by my new friend:

Originally posted by Tomi Montana:

639 Euros is somewhat cheap for a new RTX 3070 Ti, are you sure you are not getting ripped off?
639 euros buys you basically a RTX 3060 in brand new condition in today´s market, that´s a lower tier card with a much bigger performance deficit.

Prices for the 3070ti have been going down far more than the other 3000 series cards. Near msrp in most cases.

Fair enough, i suppose
My country´s RTX 30 series cards have been admittedly going down in terms of price, but not as low as 639 euros yet.

[Ochso]

Just on a side note :
You may well want to check the 3070ti recommended PSU requirements. pretty sure its 750W as opposed to the 650W minimum for the non ti version.

[ZeekAncient]

Originally posted by Ochso:

Just on a side note :
You may well want to check the 3070ti recommended PSU requirements. pretty sure its 750W as opposed to the 650W minimum for the non ti version.

The minimum PSU requirements for a 3070 Ti is 750W. But, depending on what your other components are, I am sure you can make a 650W PSU work with a 3070 Ti.

[Chelle]

Imagine a water pipe that is 1 foot in diameter and that represents the GPU.

You can pour mug after mug of water down said pipe with ease and it shall never get blocked.

A great water pipe:)


Now imagine a water pipe an inch across and that represents your CPU.

Try as you might you cannot pour water down it fast enough to keep up with the GPU.


So a different CPU one that is more powerful / modern will be the same size pipe as the GPU.


Pour the water down both them pipes and it flows beautifully.

[plat]

Yes, the i5 8600 and rtx 3070Ti will work together, of course. The match is not optimal, the cpu can and will hold the gpu's performance back if the game demands it It's like pairing Cheese Doodles with your Filet Mignon or wearing an evening gown and hoodie. OK, it works but one can do better.

I would find a more beefy cpu that can safely go on your 3xx motherboard--prices are getting better. Just search it online.

Edit: oops, missed where OP will be getting a new cpu and motherboard. Never mind.

[Heretic]

Originally posted by my new friend:

Prices for the 3070ti have been going down far more than the other 3000 series cards. Near msrp in most cases.

The 3060Ti is now priced at what the 3060 was a couple of weeks ago over here. Those poor scalpers lol.