No CPU, No Windows 11
Although my PC has hardware that is far above the minimum and recommended requirements for installing Windows 11, Microsoft has decided to exclude my CPU (Intel Core i7-6700K) from supported processors. So, despite having a PC of only four years and a respectable hardware, I will have to continue to use Windows 10 which will be supported until 2025.
It is the right time that I decide to switch to Linux.
What do you think about it?
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If you clean install windows 11 from USB it will install with no issues. I havent seen any issues on my haswell laptop with tpm 1.2

I dont know where all of this panic has come from
Messaggio originale di WarBucks:
If you clean install windows 11 from USB it will install with no issues. I havent seen any issues on my haswell laptop with tpm 1.2

I dont know where all of this panic has come from
Windows 11 can be installed on a machine with tpm 1.2, but there are drawbacks.
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/does-windows-11-require-tpm-20-we-have-good-news-and-bad-news
Ultima modifica da Carlsberg; 30 ott 2021, ore 12:58
Thanks Im well aware of the potential issues. Im sure ill have moved on to another laptop by the time its actually a problem for a computer that does some handbrake and paperwork.

Really my point was the OPs computer has TPM 2.0 support. If my old ass Zbook g2 can run it somesones 2 year newer system isnt some paperwork
6700k will be trash by 2025 so just use it until then. People keep threatening to switch to linux but its trash. Well except perhaps steam os (the one that is in steam decks, whatever it's called).
Well, yes, I would reluctantly agree: by the time 2025 rolls around, the 6700K (my old cpu :steamsad:) would be prob. near the bottom of anyone's dream-list. Still, it's capable now. If you want to try out Windows 11 now, you can--and people are reportedly getting all the cumulative updates, at least for the time being. Microsoft is still so stupidly vague about future occurrences, so personally, I would feel like I'm on borrowed time. But you are not shut out completely.

Just search the net for guides on how to bypass tpm and cpu checks via registry edit on Windows 11. It's not difficult but not 100% guaranteed either. Of course not!

Whatever you want to do is fine!
Messaggio originale di Kenshiro77:
It is the right time that I decide to switch to Linux.

Absolutely.

The time is ripe. Games largely work on Linux now via Proton. In the past this was the biggest hurdle for the casual user, and that hurdle has largely been cleared.

There are things about Windows I don't miss in the slightest, and there are things about Linux I would absolutely miss were I to switch back to Microsoft's ad-filled monster.

Give it a try. You could always go back to Windows if you decide it's not for you. PopOS is a good choice. Personally, I have found a comfortable niche in Kubuntu. Lots of choices.
You can bypass the TPM requirement, with potential drawbacks, but oh well.

It's allegedly because CPUs older than 8th gen Intel/2nd gen Ryzen lack the patches for Meltdown, Spectre, etc.
Messaggio originale di Escorve:
You can bypass the TPM requirement, with potential drawbacks, but oh well.

It's allegedly because CPUs older than 8th gen Intel/2nd gen Ryzen lack the patches for Meltdown, Spectre, etc.

Strangely, I have both Spectre and Meltdown disabled since ages via the InSpectre program. This was due to tiny but perceptible slowdowns. I migrated to W11 without a peep from any Microsoft watchdog. I had also disabled these mitigations when my i7 6700K was still installed, for the same reasons. I wonder if this wasn't an arbitrary decision by Microsoft. I say this b/c MS OK'd several Kaby Lakes for its high end Surface laptops while rejecting the rest.

Actually, good thing I was reminded about Spectre. I should try to re-enable at least one if not both and see. Maybe tomorrow. :steamhappy:
Just to be clear.
I have not problems with TPM 2.0. I have it. The issue is just the CPU Intel Core I7-6700K.
Take into account that today I still use also a laptop with an Intel Centrino Duo. It properly worked with Windows Vista (32 bit) and Wndows 7 (64 bit). Today it continues to work with Windows 10 (64 bit). It is 12 years old and I just replaced the magnetic hard disk with a solid state one. I can not play last games, but for all the other uses (office programs, multimedia, etc...) is still good.
Now, I would like to understand why Microsoft decided to exclude the processors of four / five years ago without even making an effort to solve any compatibility problems.
Microsoft has taken the easy way out as it has done in the past for Windows Phone.
A computer can't live forever, but it can't have the life expectancy of a smartphone either. Unfortunately, the throwaway culture is advancing more and more.
In this specific case, it would be enough to optimize the software.
Ultima modifica da Kenshiro77; 30 ott 2021, ore 14:37
Messaggio originale di Kenshiro77:
I would like to understand why Microsoft decided to exclude the processors of four / five years ago without even making an effort to solve any compatibility problems.
Effort was made but the older processors do not support VBS and other features that Win 11 uses.

When all said and done there is nothing in Win 11 that anyone needs as yet, it looks a little more polished visually but for most it has nothing new to offer.
Ultima modifica da Carlsberg; 30 ott 2021, ore 15:43
Why ? i found Windows key for 5 bucks
Ultima modifica da smallcat; 30 ott 2021, ore 15:49
Messaggio originale di Kenshiro77:
Just to be clear.
I have not problems with TPM 2.0. I have it. The issue is just the CPU Intel Core I7-6700K...

Right. You are in the same boat as prob. millions of other people with partial compatibility. Here is one guide, there are others. Notice that this is the "official" Microsoft tutorial on how to bypass its own restrictions.

Scroll down midway to the gray-colored box that says "Warning." There you can make the registry key and try to install W11 if you choose to do so, by the method of your choice.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ways-to-install-windows-11-e0edbbfb-cfc5-4011-868b-2ce77ac7c70e

Windows keys for that little (5 bucks)--is that a volume key for Enterprise? Sometimes they get de-activated, right?


You can grab the latest official Win11 ISO from MS.
Then use the latest beta version of RUFUS to make a proper Bootable USB Flash Drive with your Win11 ISO contents and in Rufus, select the option to have TPM + Secure Boot Disabled. This way the Win11 clean install can work and won't bug you about such requirements.

You don't need a Win11 product key. It's freely activated using a legit Win10 key.
Ultima modifica da Bad 💀 Motha; 30 ott 2021, ore 18:48
My CPU isn't supported and it doesn't have a TPM at all. But I still was able to install Windows 11 and I'm getting all the monthly updates as well. :steamthumbsup:
Messaggio originale di Miss Ann Thrope:
I'd just stick with Windows 10 until nearer to 2025, and then decide.

There's no hurry to switch operating systems.
For me it most likely won't be as late as 2025. At the moment I'm waiting to see what 21H2 has to offer, which may very well be the last major feature update pack Windows 10 will have.
Ultima modifica da CursedPanther; 30 ott 2021, ore 23:23
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