No CPU, No Windows 11

[Kenshiro77]

Although my PC has hardware that is far above the minimum and recommended requirements for installing Windows 11, Microsoft has decided to exclude my CPU (Intel Core i7-6700K) from supported processors. So, despite having a PC of only four years and a respectable hardware, I will have to continue to use Windows 10 which will be supported until 2025.
It is the right time that I decide to switch to Linux.
What do you think about it?

[Bing Chilling]

who cares? windows 10 is supported for 6 more years
your cpu will be trash compared to new processors by the time you actually "have" to upgrade

[Der tüddelige Fußgänger]

You got no official way to update to windows 11. You can still edit some files and get windows 11 unofficially.

And yeah. Many people already complain about it for good reasons.

There is no reason to block hardware which could handle the os with ease.

I can understand that MS doesn't want to support very old hardware like Old pentiums.

I bet even a 3rd gen I3 could handle windows 11 just fine with. And they'd prevent tons of e-trash.
I know its still 4 years till support ends, but for many office users, one PC every 10 years in MORE than enough for some word or libreoffice documents and browsing the web.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Messaggio originale di Really Wish i Cared.:

who cares? windows 10 is supported for 6 more years
your cpu will be trash compared to new processors by the time you actually "have" to upgrade

Where do you get 6 from?
The cut off for Win10 is 2025. You can't really count the time after when all it can receive really is security updates and drivers. Once new features stop for an OS and there is a newer and/or better one out, then it's time to move on. Although, even in 2025/26, Win10 should still be fine if everything works properly on it still.

I don't see why folks are so eager to jump over to Win11 so early. It doesn't do anything new for you that you couldn't do before. And as buggy as any new OS is, all you are doing to wasting your time really. If you feel the need to refresh things, do a clean install of Win10 64bit 21H1 (or do this when 21H2 comes around).

Nothing wrong with trying a new or different OS from a learning perspective though. But as a daily-driver... not a good idea.

As far as people wanting Win11 right now for DirectStorage. Again what's the rush. By the time Win11 has matured and drivers have improved, a PC with at least 12th or 13th gen Intel CPU, or something based on AMD AM5 Socket, plus DDR5 and PCIE 5.0 or 6.0, along with RTX 4xxx series GPU will be common everyday PCs.

[Kenshiro77]

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Notice that this is the "official" Microsoft tutorial on how to bypass its own restrictions.

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Windows 11 works on Microsoft Lumia 950 XL (a 2015 smartphone), even if not officially supported. It seems to work also on a Raspberry PI 4 with 4 GB. And, if I want to install it on a PC that has only the "unsuitable" processor, I have to follow an official procedure from Microsoft to bypass their restrictions ...
Congratulations for coherence.
I don't like consoles, but I have to admit they have an advantage. The hardware is that and the software has to adapt to it, pushing programmers to squeeze it to the max.
Unfortunately, the exact opposite is happening on PCs: software dictates the law and hardware must evolve to support it.
After Windows Phone and now with Windows 11, Microsoft has lost credibility as far as I'm concerned. In the future I will decide what to do but, surely, Windows will be an option among many and no longer the main one.

[Drystoner]

Messaggio originale di Bad 💀 Motha:

Messaggio originale di Really Wish i Cared.:

who cares? windows 10 is supported for 6 more years
your cpu will be trash compared to new processors by the time you actually "have" to upgrade

Where do you get 6 from?
The cut off for Win10 is 2025. You can't really count the time after when all it can receive really is security updates and drivers. Once new features stop for an OS and there is a newer and/or better one out, then it's time to move on. Although, even in 2025/26, Win10 should still be fine if everything works properly on it still.

I don't see why folks are so eager to jump over to Win11 so early. It doesn't do anything new for you that you couldn't do before. And as buggy as any new OS is, all you are doing to wasting your time really. If you feel the need to refresh things, do a clean install of Win10 64bit 21H1 (or do this when 21H2 comes around).

Nothing wrong with trying a new or different OS from a learning perspective though. But as a daily-driver... not a good idea.

As far as people wanting Win11 right now for DirectStorage. Again what's the rush. By the time Win11 has matured and drivers have improved, a PC with at least 12th or 13th gen Intel CPU, or something based on AMD AM5 Socket, plus DDR5 and PCIE 5.0 or 6.0, along with RTX 4xxx series GPU will be common everyday PCs.

I personally usually hold onto my PC's for 6 to 7 years. So it made sense for me to think about the future of DirectStorage etc and put in an NVMe drive. I like to ensure I don't get bummed out when some new tech comes out, all because I cheaped out on something when I built it.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I do hope you realize that DirectStorage is coming to Win10 in the 21H2 Feature Update

[CursedPanther]

Messaggio originale di Bad 💀 Motha:

I do hope you realize that DirectStorage is coming to Win10 in the 21H2 Feature Update

On top of that, we still need games to support this feature though.

[Illusion of Progress]

Messaggio originale di Bad 💀 Motha:

By the time Win11 has matured and drivers have improved, a PC with at least 12th or 13th gen Intel CPU, or something based on AMD AM5 Socket, plus DDR5 and PCIE 5.0 or 6.0, along with RTX 4xxx series GPU will be common everyday PCs.

Unlikely. I expect Windows 11 to be more mature sooner than Windows 10 loses support (doesn't mean Windows 10 will be bad to use/far worse off by then), so within a year or two give or take? Incidentally, those new CPU generations may be a big part of what makes it more mature due to the scheduler of Windows 11 apparently being better for upcoming hybrid designs (sort of like how Skylake and newer sort of forced and increase in Windows 10 adoption) so on newer hardware it will more likely be your better option.

Also, those things may be released then but the focus of enthusiasts tends to be very narrow and off the mark as far as what is common and every day. Older stuff doesn't suddenly lose relevance or market weight as soon as it's not the newest or shiniest thing. To the contrary, stuff takes time to penetrate the market and the expensive higher end stuff isn't what does it either. Adoption lags behind a bit, even in normal times and these certainly aren't normal times. One only needs to look at Steam's hardware surveys to see that Pascal still arguably remains more common than even the older RTX series, let alone the recent one, so one that does not exist yet and might not for another year or two certainly isn't going to be common right after its release. Pascal might not be the MOST common years from now (I certainly hope not) but the newest thing certainly won't be either.

Yes, I know net cafes might be making up a large part of the Pascal numbers but the point is they are out there are out there in that capacity, and you might even make a case that if a net cafe has multiple users per PC that those somewhat carry even more weight per unit.