What graphics card would you recommend?
I'm looking for something fairly cheap and new. Something that can run games like, Cyberpunk 2077 on High / Ultra, etc.
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Rumpelcrutchskin původně napsal:
RTX 3060 or 3060 Ti, RX 6600 XT.
Minimum I would go for Cyberpunk would be GTX 1660 Super or RX 5600 XT.
This is all for 1080p, for higher resolutions you would want something more powerful.
And there is no such thing as fairly cheap currently with the graphics card shortage worldwide.
My RX 5600 XT does amazing on Cyberpunk 2077. High settings with 60-90fps.
You're using a 7th gen i5. Where you looking improve things? Cause just a gpu upgrade isn't going to do much when many games need more then a 4 core i5 to do well.
Agent 30. říj. 2021 v 8.54 
Bad 💀 Motha původně napsal:
You're using a 7th gen i5. Where you looking improve things? Cause just a gpu upgrade isn't going to do much when many games need more then a 4 core i5 to do well.
Indeed, but since Alder Lake is a week away. He should wait for that. That 10 core i5 will help minimise the risk of stuttering if the P cores are able to focus on games and the E cores handle all the extra crap in the background.
But yes if you find the market is still crap when looking for a GPU none the less; something like RX 5600 XT or 6600 is not bad at all. 5600 XT is a very capable 1080p GPU that nets at least 75-90 FPS or higher in pretty much any game.

12th Gen should be nice but its pricing is most likely going to be hefty; plus it will have DDR5 RAM. If you feel the need for better performance after getting a better GPU in the short-term. A decent 10th or 11th gen config (motherboard + cpu + cooler) and re-using your old DDR4 RAM should do fine and save you some $ too. Put the savings towards some SSDs.
Naposledy upravil Bad 💀 Motha; 30. říj. 2021 v 9.07
Agent 30. říj. 2021 v 9.09 
Bad 💀 Motha původně napsal:
But yes if you find the market is still crap when looking for a GPU none the less; something like RX 5600 XT or 6600 is not bad at all. 5600 XT is a very capable 1080p GPU that nets at least 75-90 FPS or higher in pretty much any game.

12th Gen should be nice but its pricing is going to be hefty; plus it will have DDR5 RAM.
If you feel the need for better performance after getting a better GPU in the short-term. I decent 10th or 11th gen config (motherboard + cpu + cooler) and re-using your old DDR4 RAM should do fine and save you some $ too. Put the savings towards some SSDs.
If compromises have to be made, yes putting those savings toward some NVMe drives would be a better investment. An Alder Lake CPU paired with a slow hard drive would be quite silly.
Doesn't have to be expensive NVME drives. Those don't exactly help games run smoothly or load faster over SATA speed SSDs.
Agent 30. říj. 2021 v 9.12 
Bad 💀 Motha původně napsal:
Doesn't have to be expensive NVME drives. Those don't exactly help games run smoothly or load faster over SATA speed SSDs.
I'm thinking about DirectStorage. NVMe's aren't expensive anymore. You can pick up WD Blue's for £70 per terabyte. SATA has had its days. SATA SSD >> HDD obviously, but just get NVMe.
Naposledy upravil Agent; 30. říj. 2021 v 9.12
I'd look at Samsung 870 QVO instead. Very good bang for buck.
Agent 30. říj. 2021 v 9.30 
Bad 💀 Motha původně napsal:
I'd look at Samsung 870 QVO instead. Very good bang for buck.
Seems poor value to me when I can get an NVMe for the same price. The data transfer rate is only 560 MB/s. My WD blue drives do 850 MB/s. Got a Samsung evo 970 as my OS drive.
Rock Head původně napsal:
1440p is pushing it for an RTX 3060, but so long as you're willing to drop some settings and are satisfied with 60 FPS. It should be good enough.

Respectfully disagree, I'd say 1080p is more around 1060/1050ti/1660 Super (from my experience, I currently own those cards).

1440p is perfect for 3060/5700xt/etc (I own these cards as well). I've done extensive testing from 1080p through to 4k, on a variety of screens (I own 5 monitors, 2 4k TVs, etc that I've tested on, IPS, VA, and TN)

1440p you're maxing most games 60 or more on a 3060 or 5700xt, easily. Big flashy mainstream games like Destiny 2, Resident Evil 8, etc all run max settings 1440p over 60 on these types of cards in real world experience (not just going off youtube videos, actual use). I'll usually drop to just "high" for more FPS as my main monitor is 165hz and shoot for around 120fps on high.

Thats why I feel its important to get actual numbers from people that own these cards, vs quoting something heard or seen in a video. You have no idea how their PC is set up, etc. And from actual use with many games, people always downplay power vs resolution on these cards.

Or any cards really. I remember a time when people would say a 1060 was perfect for 1080p, 1070 perfect for 1440p, and 4k you need a 1080. As time goes on people just keep bumping the cards up vs resolution requirements, but thats not really the case, especially with DLSS and FSR coming into existence.

Rock Head původně napsal:
Bad 💀 Motha původně napsal:
I'd look at Samsung 870 QVO instead. Very good bang for buck.
Seems poor value to me when I can get an NVMe for the same price. The data transfer rate is only 560 MB/s. My WD blue drives do 850 MB/s. Got a Samsung evo 970 as my OS drive.

Oh for NVME; yes then I'd look at Sabrent Rocket Gen4 SSDs; the best there is.
Mind původně napsal:
None, not at these prices. Every time I look it just gets worse. Nvidia, AMD and none of the middlemen give a damn thanks to the profits and global corruption going on. It was like this last year, so why waste money on something where nobody else will invest time and money developing the software to run on it? Graphics cards are for mining parasites now, because only they will pay silly money for them.

Ah, okay.
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Naposledy upravil Guydodge; 2. lis. 2021 v 10.16
Games are meant to played on high graphics settings and refresh rates, especially TripleA-games.

If you can't afford it, switch to a gaming-console. Still a thousandtimes better than to play on low/medium settings. It destroys everything.

I wouldn't even bother to play on a 2060/2070 or even worse, a GTX 1080. Do yourself a favor, put some money aside and aim high.
Go at least for the 3080TI or 6800 XT. It's worth it and its future proof, at least for a few years.
Yuzu původně napsal:
Games are meant to played on high graphics settings and refresh rates, especially TripleA-games.

If you can't afford it, switch to a gaming-console. Still a thousandtimes better than to play on low/medium settings. It destroys everything.

I wouldn't even bother to play on a 2060/2070 or even worse, a GTX 1080. Do yourself a favor, put some money aside and aim high.
Go at least for the 3080TI or 6800 XT. It's worth it and its future proof, at least for a few years.
An outlier here, consoles have no ultrawide support. I'd rather play 30 fps on medium settings than play on 16:9 ever again.
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