What graphics card would you recommend?

[sigina ✝]

I'm looking for something fairly cheap and new. Something that can run games like, Cyberpunk 2077 on High / Ultra, etc.

[Agent]

Początkowo opublikowane przez ZeekAncient:

Resolution please?

I would gladly answer this question but I need to know the native resolution of the display you plan to be gaming with.

People always state things like I want to play at High/Ultra settings, yada, yada, yada....

The single biggest and most important factor on what CPU/GPU you will need when playing games on PC is what resolution you will be playing at?

All these setting mean squat, if you don't know what resolution you will be playing at. If you play at 1080 than you will most likely be able to max all your settings with a plethora of GPUs. If you are gaming at 4K, only but the most powerful GPUs will allow you to max your settings.

So I ask again, what resolution will you be playing at?

Edit: But yes, currently as everyone states, there is a shortage. So I can tell you what GPUs you will need at what resolution but they currently won't be cheap....or in stock....even the supposed cheap GPUs will not be cheap...but please state resolution....we will tell you a GPU...and then you might be able to buy it at MSRP ... in 2023...

Also, fun fact. Ultrawide is not only more GPU intensive, but more RAM and CPU intensive too. Makes sense when you think about it.

[ZeekAncient]

For 1080p with your specs I would go for an RTX3060 or an RX6600. Depending on whether you want an Nvidia or AMD card. Both will offer at least 60 fps(give or take) at cyberpunk 2077 at high settings. Now these are the latest generation from Nvidia and AMD, respectively. Their MSRPs are supposed to be $329 but you most likely will not be able to get them at that price.

Also another thing to consider is a how powerful your PSU is? You will need at least a decent 500w PSU for a 6600 and a 550w PSU for a 3060.

The 3060 will give you a few more frames per second then a 6600 at 1080 but right now a 3060 at a decent price might be harder to get than a 6600 at a decent price.

But if you want to play Cyberpunk 2077 at 1080 with high settings and at least 60 fps, I wouldn't really recommend anything less than an RX6600.

Here is a review of the RX6600 from Techspot. It has benchmarks for Cyberpunk and other games there, as well as compares the frame rates of other GPUs as well.

https://www.techspot.com/review/2343-amd-radeon-rx-6600/

It is also worth mentioning that Cyberpunk is a pretty demanding game. Here I am talking about High settings at 1080p. But even at 1080 if you want to max out settings(Ultra) and maintain 60fps then I would recommend something better than a midrange card.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cooper:

i5-7600K

GTX 1050 Ti

24 GB RAM

1920x1080

You're going to want to fix that ram issue if this is really a gaming PC.

24gb ram? That is definitely not a matching kit. It still surprises me that a gaming PC would be set up that way. You want 8gb, 16gb,or 32gb not 24.

24 means you just stuffed an extra dimm in there with no thought or reason. Only for the sake of more ram and disregarding configuration completely. Not ideal for a gaming PC.

I would definitely fix that ram before I would even think about a GPU.

[sigina ✝]

Początkowo opublikowane przez The Hardware ʬhisperer:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cooper:

i5-7600K

GTX 1050 Ti

24 GB RAM

1920x1080

You're going to want to fix that ram issue if this is really a gaming PC.

24gb ram? That is definitely not a matching kit. It still surprises me that a gaming PC would be set up that way. You want 8gb, 16gb,or 32gb not 24.

24 means you just stuffed an extra dimm in there with no thought or reason. Only for the sake of more ram and disregarding configuration completely. Not ideal for a gaming PC.

I would definitely fix that ram before I would even think about a GPU.

Nah, man. Listen, I have three 8 GB RAM.

That's why I wrote 24.

[Monk]

I was about to make the case for 2 8 and 2 4GB so urs still working properly, if at the lowest speed, but, won't 3 dimms turn it into single rather than dual channel?

Been a while since I came accross it, either way, it's best to remove the unmatched stick.

OP, what's your actual budget?

With your specs, your cpu will hold you back in alot of areas, with the current gpu shortages / price hikes, it would probably be better to maje do with what you have and save for a complete new build once prices / availability improves.

[sigina ✝]

My budget is around $584.

I'm not too serious about gaming and all that. I just want something that will handle most new games without me having to go back and forth with the graphic settings.

I guess I'll just stick to a RTX 3060 Ti.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cooper:

Nah, man. Listen, I have three 8 GB RAM.

That's why I wrote 24.

I would only run my PC that way for testing purposes, mainly to see how badly it would do. You're definitely better off running with a faster 16gb.

I totally agree with the above, remove the odd ball dimm and just wait.

[ZeekAncient]

I didn't notice the RAM before but yes if you are running 3 X 8GB sticks for 24 GB with that processor than they are running in single channel not dual channel. The extra 8GB of ram is not worth it if they will run in single channel. Just put two matching 8GB sticks in and put them in the correct slots, usually the 2nd and 4th slots, and have 16GB running in dual channel. It will perform better than 24GB running in single channel.

[ZeekAncient]

At $584 you should be able to get an RTX 3070 but not right now. Honestly, I would just wait till prices normalize, which can be a while but no point paying scalper prices. Either that or just search really hard, every day, all day. Join the Newegg Shuffle. Sign up for automatic notifications of websites that will tell you when they have stock at MSRP. Constantly be eyeing youtube channels which update GPU stock. It is hard but I did it for three months, as much as I could everyday, and finally spotted an RTX 3070 Ti at MSRP. But it wasn't in stock for long and I had to jump on it right away. Other than that you will be forced to buy a GPU at extra cost from a scalper. Or worse a GPU from some miner in China.

Welcome to the new norm of buying a graphics card. The search is the hardest part.

[Agent]

Początkowo opublikowane przez ZeekAncient:

At $584 you should be able to get an RTX 3070 but not right now. Honestly, I would just wait till prices normalize, which can be a while but no point paying scalper prices. Either that or just search really hard, every day, all day. Join the Newegg Shuffle. Sign up for automatic notifications of websites that will tell you when they have stock at MSRP. Constantly be eyeing youtube channels which update GPU stock. It is hard but I did it for three months, as much as I could everyday, and finally spotted an RTX 3070 Ti at MSRP. But it wasn't in stock for long and I had to jump on it right away. Other than that you will be forced to buy a GPU at extra cost from a scalper. Or worse a GPU from some miner in China.

Welcome to the new norm of buying a graphics card. The search is the hardest part.

Really easy finding CPU's however. I've even seen big sales like £50 off i9's. Though, folks should wait for Alder Lake at this point.

[KENJI]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cooper:

My budget is around $584.

I'm not too serious about gaming and all that. I just want something that will handle most new games without me having to go back and forth with the graphic settings.

I guess I'll just stick to a RTX 3060 Ti.

good luck finding one for 584 ^^

[sigina ✝]

Początkowo opublikowane przez KENJI:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cooper:

My budget is around $584.

I'm not too serious about gaming and all that. I just want something that will handle most new games without me having to go back and forth with the graphic settings.

I guess I'll just stick to a RTX 3060 Ti.

good luck finding one for 584 ^^

3060 is around $557 where I live.

[Illusion of Progress]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Monk:

I was about to make the case for 2 8 and 2 4GB so urs still working properly, if at the lowest speed, but, won't 3 dimms turn it into single rather than dual channel?

Not necessarily. With "Flex Mode", which has been available on Intel platforms for a very, very long time now (mid 2000s or Core 2 time-frame I believe), you can get dual channel "partially" in configurations you may not expect it where it is supported. This may also work on many AMD platforms, at least recent ones like Ryzen but possibly even some a bit older, but I don't know if this asynchronous mode has an official name on those platforms. The behavior is often there though.

The short version is, with a case of three modules of 8 GB on a platform that is limited to dual channel (so, no triple channel capability), 16 GB worth will be in dual channel and 8 GB worth will be in single channel. So theoretically the "extra" RAM (that is, the third 8 GB worth that is added to the 16 GB worth) isn't hurting because if you go beyond 16 GB then single channel speed is still far better than lacking RAM entirely. In practice, however, I'm not sure if the system is fully "smart" enough to only use the 16 GB of dual channel before using anything within the single channel space (or if it works in a way the alleviates that concern). I want to say with how systems manage address space this would be dealt with by the first 16 GB being in dual channel mode but it's "way above my pay grade" (understanding) so to speak. Maybe someone else knows this part.

Additionally, many things aren't hurt as much by single channel speed as some may think. Yes, it's definitely a difference and I'd definitely recommend no reason NOT to use dual channel if it is supported, but the practical difference isn't anywhere as different as the theoretical change (twice the effective bandwidth) suggests. The difference is typically far close to a fraction of that (may often be as low as single digit differences and ones you won't feel blindly).

[Decathect]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cooper:

I'm looking for something fairly cheap and new. Something that can run games like, Cyberpunk 2077 on High / Ultra, etc.

I have the Evga 3060 and have tested it a lot with Cyberpunk, here is how you can run it with that card at a variety of resolutions.

***Keep in mind I refuse to play below 60fps so if it won't stay at above 60 at all times, I'm not playing it***

4k: DLSS has to be set to Ultra Performance and you can run it on high @ 4k @ 60fps. No Raytracing at all.

1440p: DLSS Balanced and can be set to Ultra no raytracing. Or can be set to High and have Reflections Raytraced @ 60.

1080p: DLSS not required, can be run Ultra and have all Raytracing features on BUT lighting has to be just on, not the other 2 higher settings.

Best pairing displaywise I've for for this card is 1440p. I used to have it hooked up to a 50" 4k Samsung but it was way too much screen for this card. Now on a 32" 1440p Asus Monitor and its a much better pairing.

I'd avoid Amd until FSR is in more games, though I did test it in Resident Evil 8 and it works quite nice (tested with Amd 5700xt and Nvidia 3060).

[Agent]

Początkowo opublikowane przez TeamGunstar:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cooper:

I'm looking for something fairly cheap and new. Something that can run games like, Cyberpunk 2077 on High / Ultra, etc.

I have the Evga 3060 and have tested it a lot with Cyberpunk, here is how you can run it with that card at a variety of resolutions.

***Keep in mind I refuse to play below 60fps so if it won't stay at above 60 at all times, I'm not playing it***

4k: DLSS has to be set to Ultra Performance and you can run it on high @ 4k @ 60fps. No Raytracing at all.

1440p: DLSS Balanced and can be set to Ultra no raytracing. Or can be set to High and have Reflections Raytraced @ 60.

1080p: DLSS not required, can be run Ultra and have all Raytracing features on BUT lighting has to be just on, not the other 2 higher settings.

Best pairing displaywise I've for for this card is 1440p. I used to have it hooked up to a 50" 4k Samsung but it was way too much screen for this card. Now on a 32" 1440p Asus Monitor and its a much better pairing.

I'd avoid Amd until FSR is in more games, though I did test it in Resident Evil 8 and it works quite nice (tested with Amd 5700xt and Nvidia 3060).

1440p is pushing it for an RTX 3060, but so long as you're willing to drop some settings and are satisfied with 60 FPS. It should be good enough.