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aim high right? xD
sorry i got nothing i have a sucky pc and cant afford anything higher then it/.... for now.
- Much more powerful CPU cooler, will be able to overclock CPU higher
- Cheaper RGB RAM that matches better
- Cheaper power supply that is still reliable, 750W, and fully-modular
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/drh7ZR
Only get the RTX 2080 if ray tracing seems important to you, it terms of proformance the that GTX 1080 Ti will run games just as well. With games that will support ray tracing you'll drematically lower your framerate by having RTX turned on so I do not think the RTX 2080 is worth it. And I think you'll be very happy with a 8700K, plus it is cheaper than a 9700K.
Then there is the question whether the 2080 can do 1440p at 144hz. I don't know the answer to that. My 1080ti would struggle, so the 2080 might be similar. Depends on the games that you want to play.
I use asus mobos and aorus cards and they work well. On one aorus card I bought there was a dud pixel on the logo.
Cheapest place for tech in AU can be ebay when there is 20% sale. There is usually one around November I think. Works out to 10% off store prices.
I don't use water cooling. The 9 series cpus are soldered which means better thermal properties. Both types use air to do the cooling so they produce the same results.
300 for a case. I'd go high on the cpu and use any old case.
PSU - g3 is tier 2. Look for a fanless tier 1 psu
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/
Monitors - don't know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgEI4tzh0dc
Ryzen 7 2700x is a great CPU, cheaper than intel at slightly lower performance.
But heres the thing, from the tests I've seen, it's performed just as good, if not better than the i7-8700k. Which is great, considering it's cheaper.
Cooler, you're going to want a watercooler, because it's nice to have if you're going to overclock.
(I asumed you are since you paired a K seires with a Z370 board; So I did the same with the 2700x)
Cheaper, but just as good RAM because who the ♥♥♥♥ wants RGB....Just get fans or an LED strip.
This storage would be better; 970 is prolly the best M.2 on the market, and 500GB Sata SSD for the games that need fast load time, but you really can't be arsed, or want to waste space on your M.2. And 2TB HDD.
Watercooled GPU kinda meh, the air cooler does a great job as it is, and I know a guy that owns the non-watercooled version, and it does very well in gaming, and never really gets hot anyway.
(But if you want it, go for it, I just thought I'd mention it.)
Case; I don't know if you already own it, or are going to get it.
But I say get the Lian-Li PC-011 Air, great case. Loads of room, great cooling, and it doesn't look to bad. (Or look at the PC-011D black if you want something that looks even better)
Or if you have the Evolv X, just ignore what I just said.
As for the monitor; as you'll never really hit 165fps without turning lots of settings down, the monitor I picked would be better.
Plus I read lots of reviews of that monitor; people seem to have losts of problems with the 165hz mode (which is an overclock mode the montior has, so it would effectivley be 144hz)
And has quite a bit of backlight bleed, so I've read.
And it's quite a slow response time pannel (I'm not talking about the 4ms GTG, I'm talking about the actual delay between your action, and when the monitor reacts, totally different to the made up '1-4ms' ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that manifacturers say.)
The one I picked, has very good reveiws, people rarely have a problem with it.
Looks great, performs great, next to no problems with the picture quality, and is a very fast pannel. And I'd take that monitor over all else, because it's simply the best 1440p I can find on the market.
As for windows, you can get a cheap key somewhere. ♥♥♥♥ paying 100+ for it, actually a waste of money.
If anyone has anything to add, feel free.
>Not considering ryzen, which is still really good performance compared to 9th gen.
But, it's still i9-9900k would be a decent CPU, I just wouldn't buy it in the current market.
1080ti and 2080 are almost identical, if he doesn't care about RayTracing, it would be better to get a 1080ti and overclock it.
That way he can get better performance for cheaper.
With a heavy overclock, watercooling is almost a must have.
(Which I asume he'd do, because he's pairing a k series with a Z370 board.)
Current prices for Intel is terrible so I feel going 2700X is fine.
I don't know how much price difference there is but I would pick 2080 over 1080Ti if close enough in price.
I guess I would go VA 27" 1080p or 1440p at higher refresh rate and FreeSync for a limited budget and if one really have no problem spending a lot then there's the 4K HDR G-Sync panels for absurd amount of money but one get all of refresh rate, colors, contrast, brightness, resolution so ..
As for the cooler I don't know how much extra cooling capacity a 280 or 360 mm AIO have against a Noctua NH-D15 or BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4. The two former ones will never leak and will work for a lot of time. They will put more weight on the board though. They will also be cheaper.
I have the Noctua NH-U12 right now with a lower end ASUS B450-F and a Ryzen 5 2600X and changing Performance Enhancer from default to Auto which is the default from stupid ASUS which enable PBO I get a tiny bit higher performance in single threaded loads but lower in multi-threaded after just one benchmark run, could just had been random changes since they are so very close, regardless it doesn't seem to bring ~any improvement so I wouldn't bother. Then again the reason for that may be my just good rather than extreme cooler.
If i7 8700K cost a lot more than i7 8700 without really bringing any extra performance to gaming then why not save the money of cooler, motherboard and potentially delidding and just go 8700? If overclocking and delidding and good coolers are anything you actually care about then totally ignore the i7 8700K anyway because why bother with that one since it will require the delid to get decent temps anyway? When the i7 9700K will be better for gaming and sort out the heat issue. But at normal prices and kinda now too I guess the i9 9900K is the one to get if you want the best. If you are spending a lot why sacrifice the multi-threaded performance? It's nice to have the reserves.
Time may be a bit early for ray tracing since it seem to deliver a lot of artifacts and lack of detail from denoising in reflections IMHO. Then again better lighting and shadows are nice. But one way to go is to just go 2600/2600X and GTX 1060 6 GB / 1070 or whatever used and wait for 3000 series and 7 nm RTX boards whenever that happen. Then again since it's much more expensive to produce a large chip on 7 nm the shrinking advantage won't mean a lot more performance for the same price anyway. So I guess their 12 nm cards do make sense.
I wouldn't reccomend an i9 (Exept the 9900k) for gaming, and if he's doing video editing and ♥♥♥♥, he'd be better going with threadripper.
The x299 platforms thermals are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ discusting, so unless you can get a 9th gen one, it's pointless. And like I said before, if he's gaming, it's a no-go.
Why a 2.5TB SSD and no M.2 SSD? It's better to get a 500gb M.2, a 500GB SSD and a 1-2TB Harddrive.
Edit :
The K chip is just a couple of quid more, for a much better product.
Gives more longevity from the chip, because it has a higher freqency, and can be overclocked.
And a good overclocking mobo isn't that much more than a ♥♥♥♥ chipset one. So it's stupid not to invest, so you don't waste money later on.
As for deliding, you really don't need to, I know a guy that's running a i7-8700k at 4.7ghz and keeping at 65 degrees with a 120mm AIO cooler (That's on exaust, so it's hotter because it's getting warmer air from GPU etc.)
You don't NEED to delid the 8th gen, just if you want to push high overclocks then you have to, but most people would be happy with a 'decent' overclock.
Just because you see lots of people talking about it, and how great it is, doesn't mean it HAS to be delided.
It's not a much better product. It's somewhat faster if overclocked but it become very hard to cool it without delidding for a bit higher overclock which actually matter. Without overclocking it just have 100 MHz higher turbo and that you won't notice. If you are going to overclock it you both pay more for K, more for Z board and more for cooler and possibly more for delid tool and ruin the warranty too (which is also ruined by overclocking but that they may not know.)
As overclocking the 8700K is somewhat unattractive people may not want to do that, if there's a major price difference just skip it since they are basically the same product except for the overclocking part. My claim was all the time if it cost a lot more, not if they cost the same. Prices here has been ~1000 SEK more and that it's not worth.
4.7 GHz isn't much of an overclock. It's 9.3% above stock all core turbo boost. It's 0% above stock single core turbo. 4.9-5.0 is kinda were you can go without delidding.
https://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=4447773
3280 SEK for i7 8700
https://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=4447774
4289 SEK for i7 8700K
1009 sek in gbp = £86 more.
https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/cfl_turbo_v2.png
As you can see there all core turbo is the same for both processors so without overclocking it doesn't really matter which one you have: 4.3 GHz for both. For less than all cores the i7 8700K is 100 MHz faster but that's just 2.2-2.3% faster and just above irrelevant.
For an AVX load it may be slower, but saving £86 and having 97.7-100% of the performance is fine. Can easily get faster RAM for that or a 500 GB SSD instead.
Now I need to decide on which i7 to get (probably either 8700k or 9700k now as I might be doing some overclocking), a 1080ti or 2080, which case (probably an Enthoo Evolv X DRGB) and what memory (probably the 16gb G.Skill Trident RGB). Any advice is appreciated, thanks.
https://www.samsung.com/au/offer/assassinscreed/
msy has $500 off on 8700k/1080ti systems, whether it's a true saving don't know
not the greatest system with a liquid cooler and bling but might be cheaper than buying parts
personally I'd wait for the 9700k as the cooling options and overclocking are better