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You said it better than I could of myself. That right there is the problem. When buying a used coin mining card you have no idea how the previous owner used it. They could of undervolted it, they could of reduced power, or they could of run it stock or they could of overclocked it and then ran it at 100% load, overclocked, overheated, at maximum heat the entire time.
You just don't know. That's why everyone should always avoid buying used coin mining cards for any reason. There's a significantly higher chance of coin mining cards dying in just a few months vs those use for casual gaming @ stock speeds.
I even found a ebay listing last night for a R9 290X that literally said in the listing "Artifacts when playing games, still great for coin mining" .... stuff like that.
You could always ask, you know. I have yet to meet even a single ex-miner who wouldn't have told exactly how they ran the gpu(s) they are now selling. They might not have listed it in the sales ad, but you can always ask them for details.
And they told the truth right there. They told that there is something wrong with the gpu so buyer will know. If they wouldn't have, they would have just not mentioned any of that at all.
Maybe you feel content with that, I have to treat everyone of that sort as a lier, I can't help but look at this way, it's the nature of the business.
Overall I don't understand why you all are having a complete waste of time back-and-forth up in here. The bottom line is it doesn't matter how much you use electronics; they will up and die regardless of that usage. They could very well die from hardly any usage just as easily as dying from constant 24/7 usage. Each piece of hardware will be different for the most part in that regard. Plus there are tons of other factors at hand.
Exactly this.
You can try.. I'd suggest you find a few used 1080 Ti's in ebay. Look at the seller's other listings, and look at their sold listings as well and some of them you can see have 20~30 listings where they've sold the exact same model of video card recently in ebay and are very obviously coin miners. No normal gamer would have 20+ of the exact same model of card. Then ask them politely "Was this used for coin mining?" with their current listing and watch them reply either "No it was not" or don't even answer at all, and don't put it in their listing. Most of them will flat out lie about it to your face because they all know if anyone finds out they used their cards for coin mining no one will buy it. They also never list it in their listings either. This is the typical behaviour of most ebay sellers selling the top-end used video cards (R9 290X, R9 390X, R9 Fury, GTX 980 Ti, GTX 1080, GTX 1080 Ti). It's so rampant in the online used market now that smart folks need to be extremely suspicious of everyone selling used cards. And I'll do my part to actively suggest everyone avoid coin mining cards. Unless they just happen to have $600 to throw away on a card that will likely die on them in a short time.
You're just assuming things at this point really. Just to stay in your belief that mined cards are bad and worse buy than cards used just for gaming.
Have you asked any of those yourself? Have you been keeping constant eye on the card market? I doubt you have.
I on the other hand, have. I constantly check all possible used component markets and see if there is any good deals. If something piques my interest, I ask the seller for details if they haven't been provided.
It's a bit of waste of time for those sellers of course as I don't really buy any of those in the end as I have no need. But I like to keep up to date in case someone needs recommendation to a used card.
Sometimes, if I find some absolutely great deal, I buy it, build a pc out of parts I have found and sell the pc for profit.
But hey. If you want to re-assure someone else online you don't know to risk their hard earned bucks on a gamble of a purchase that you know wholeheartedly may realistically die on them in a short period of time after their purchase then go ahead. It's not your money, why do you care.
In that case we both have similar sources. But my experience is different in that only few have had theirs die.
Out of, let's say, roughly 100 pieces maybe just 5 has failed within a year.
Of course in case of GTX 10 series and RX 500 cards, not a year has even yet passed.
So it will have to wait until next year.
Also, there is no cards in used market that would cost 500-700$ and would have been used for mining.
1080TI is the most expensive one and they weren't used for mining. It was simply too expensive in comparison to hashrate it was putting out.
Most mining cards are GTX 1060's and RX 580's going for 200-250$.
With few GTX 1070's, and even fewer 1080's.
which go for 350 - 400$ respectively.
Oh yes, and Vega 56 and 64.
Nice story; however that's no different then me saying in here to stay away from Seagate HDDs cause they all suck and they all live a short life; however that's just not "true" for all users now is it? Having a bad experience with something like a GPU from a miner makes up for 0.00001% examples of the overall statistics out there. But it's not uncommon for someone to have a bad experience like that and turn it into a belief that everything done that way is bad, or that because they had a faulty product from a certain brand, they brand should now be avoided...... please, get real.