Which is good gpu and cpu combo?

[Flow]

Rx570 4gb and intel g4560 or rx470 4gb and g4560?

[Autumn_]

Ad Hominem eredeti hozzászólása:

Autumn eredeti hozzászólása:

That little 5% of performance doesn't make up for 40 dollars of difference.

That isn't true. That's a value judgment that will change depending on a lot of different factors. That 5% improvement might add up to hours and hours of reduced render times. Or if you've got the cash it could add up to an additional frame or two per second in game. That reduced render time or performance might be worth 40 dollars to someone. There is no singular answer for a value judgment tho.

While you do make a good point, I was talking about this from a relative point of view, who the ♥♥♥♥ is going to render something on an i5? (In the sense of their job, and not making videos/photos as a hobby)

(Sidenote, the Ryzen CPU would be better in rendering as well as being cheaper.)

Honestly, that 40 dollars could go to an SSD, or even a better GPU. Or even 'just the little things' like, a mouse, or a case fan.
I really don't think (IN THIS INSTANCE) that 40 dollars is worth ''a couple of frames.'' And I don't think anyone else with the 'budget' view in their head would as well.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for performance, I prefer Intel myself for the performance reason. I would by an i9-9900k if I had they money. But, you've gotta look at it from a realistic standpoint.

[HALO_run]

【Ｅｓｃｏｒｖｅ】 eredeti hozzászólása:

HALO_run eredeti hozzászólása:

nope i don't, getting the best gear\ setup means paying the for best

For price to performance value, AMD beats Intel. Period. The best means nothing when its only 10-20 fps for up to twice the price, when the valuable 3600 pulls more than needed.

agreed but for the best performance Intel still wins

[Autumn_]

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【Ｅｓｃｏｒｖｅ】 eredeti hozzászólása:

For price to performance value, AMD beats Intel. Period. The best means nothing when its only 10-20 fps for up to twice the price, when the valuable 3600 pulls more than needed.

agreed but for the best performance Intel still wins*

*In certain workloads

[UTFapolloMarine]

HALO_run eredeti hozzászólása:

【Ｅｓｃｏｒｖｅ】 eredeti hozzászólása:

For price to performance value, AMD beats Intel. Period. The best means nothing when its only 10-20 fps for up to twice the price, when the valuable 3600 pulls more than needed.

agreed but for the best performance Intel still wins

INTEL BEATS AMD ALL DAY but for budget id go with amd if you have the cash to spend on an INTEL system why not?

[r.linder]

HALO_run eredeti hozzászólása:

【Ｅｓｃｏｒｖｅ】 eredeti hozzászólása:

For price to performance value, AMD beats Intel. Period. The best means nothing when its only 10-20 fps for up to twice the price, when the valuable 3600 pulls more than needed.

agreed but for the best performance Intel still wins

As Autumn said, in certain workloads. For multi-threaded workloads, Intel doesn't compare.

[Flow]

chill guys

[Flow]

im not asking for anything rn

[Ad Hominem]

Autumn eredeti hozzászólása:

Ad Hominem eredeti hozzászólása:

That isn't true. That's a value judgment that will change depending on a lot of different factors. That 5% improvement might add up to hours and hours of reduced render times. Or if you've got the cash it could add up to an additional frame or two per second in game. That reduced render time or performance might be worth 40 dollars to someone. There is no singular answer for a value judgment tho.

While you do make a good point, I was talking about this from a relative point of view, who the ♥♥♥♥ is going to render something on an i5? (In the sense of their job, and not making videos/photos as a hobby)

(Sidenote, the Ryzen CPU would be better in rendering as well as being cheaper.)

Honestly, that 40 dollars could go to an SSD, or even a better GPU. Or even 'just the little things' like, a mouse, or a case fan.
I really don't think (IN THIS INSTANCE) that 40 dollars is worth ''a couple of frames.'' And I don't think anyone else with the 'budget' view in their head would as well.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for performance, I prefer Intel myself for the performance reason. I would by an i9-9900k if I had they money. But, you've gotta look at it from a realistic standpoint.

Yea, ironically the cheaper CPU would actually render faster. I made that point though because that performance for a freelancer or professional might very well be worth it, even at a premium. And that kind of value judgment is easier to justify than just wanting more sweet frames, not that wanting those extra 2 FPS is an invalid reason - it's perfectly valid. But it just speaks to how you value those dollars rather than simply profit and loss.

Most people wouldn't pay more than a few bucks for a bottle of water, but a man stuck out in a desert would pay everything he had. The bottle of water didn't change, but the valuation of it did.

[Flow]

list of cpu's i can get AMD Ryzen 5 1400/AMD RYZEN 3 3200G 3.6GHz/Intel Core i3-9100F/3.60GHz/AMD Ryzen 5 1600,. (and yes i will change the mobo to)

[r.linder]

Flow流 eredeti hozzászólása:

list of cpu's i can get AMD Ryzen 5 1400/AMD RYZEN 3 3200G 3.6GHz/Intel Core i3-9100F/3.60GHz/AMD Ryzen 5 1600,. (and yes i will change the mobo to)

Just get the 1600

[Flow]

Also is amd use more watts that intel cpu's?

[r.linder]

Flow流 eredeti hozzászólása:

Also is amd use more watts that intel cpu's?

CPU wattage makes no real difference, it's GPUs that take up the most

[Autumn_]

Ad Hominem eredeti hozzászólása:

Autumn eredeti hozzászólása:

While you do make a good point, I was talking about this from a relative point of view, who the ♥♥♥♥ is going to render something on an i5? (In the sense of their job, and not making videos/photos as a hobby)

(Sidenote, the Ryzen CPU would be better in rendering as well as being cheaper.)

Honestly, that 40 dollars could go to an SSD, or even a better GPU. Or even 'just the little things' like, a mouse, or a case fan.
I really don't think (IN THIS INSTANCE) that 40 dollars is worth ''a couple of frames.'' And I don't think anyone else with the 'budget' view in their head would as well.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for performance, I prefer Intel myself for the performance reason. I would by an i9-9900k if I had they money. But, you've gotta look at it from a realistic standpoint.

Yea, ironically the cheaper CPU would actually render faster. I made that point though because that performance for a freelancer or professional might very well be worth it, even at a premium. And that kind of value judgment is easier to justify than just wanting more sweet frames, not that wanting those extra 2 FPS is an invalid reason - it's perfectly valid. But it just speaks to how you value those dollars rather than simply profit and loss.

Most people wouldn't pay more than a few bucks for a bottle of water, but a man stuck out in a desert would pay everything he had. The bottle of water didn't change, but the valuation of it did.

Yeah, I got your point.
It is up to the person to decide, call me strange, but I default to 'best value for money', unless stated otherwise.
And, besides, if anyone wanted best performance, they wouldn't be buying an i5 lmfao.

Flow流 eredeti hozzászólása:

list of cpu's i can get AMD Ryzen 5 1400/AMD RYZEN 3 3200G 3.6GHz/Intel Core i3-9100F/3.60GHz/AMD Ryzen 5 1600,. (and yes i will change the mobo to)

Go for the 1600/x on a B450 board. (Asrock B450 Pro4, it's the best you can get on a budget, and will give some headroom for higher end parts.)

Flow流 eredeti hozzászólása:

Also is amd use more watts that intel cpu's?

They use less, not that it matters for most users.

【Ｅｓｃｏｒｖｅ】 eredeti hozzászólása:

Flow流 eredeti hozzászólása:

Also is amd use more watts that intel cpu's?

CPU wattage makes no real difference, it's GPUs that take up the most

Unless you've got an i9-9900k(elvin) lmao

[Flow]

Btw how ryzen 5 1600 is way more cheap that i5 7500 with less specs
?

[Snow]

Flow流 eredeti hozzászólása:

Btw how ryzen 5 1600 is way more cheap that i5 7500 with less specs
?

That's exactly what we've been discussing here for quite a while already. AMD offers way better performance per dollar.