Agent Panda 2021 年 5 月 12 日 上午 7:25
How much worth is Intel I7 10700 getting over I5-10400
I'm building a new pc and am divided over whether or not should I spend double on an i7 10700 compared to an I5-10400?

I7 10700 has edge over I5-10400 on most of the Gameplay FPS comparison video on youtube, but only by a margin of 10-20% so is really worth paying double for an i7? What would be the benifit if i chose i7 over i5
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_I_ 2021 年 5 月 12 日 上午 9:30 
either go with an intel k cpu and z board, or go ryzen 3600-5000

the locked intels have lower core performance

i5 10600k has the faster cores and unlocked to oc if you give it better cooling
the 10700k has 2 more cores, 10900k with 4 more cores
both with about the same core performance ~+5% over the 10600k
最後修改者:_I_; 2021 年 5 月 12 日 上午 9:38
Magma Dragoon 2021 年 5 月 12 日 上午 10:17 
引用自 ๖Micvit 愛
引用自 _I_
either go with an intel k cpu and z board, or go ryzen 3600-5000

the locked intels have lower core performance

i5 10600k has the faster cores and unlocked to oc if you give it better cooling
the 10700k has 2 more cores, 10900k with 4 more cores
both with about the same core performance ~+5% over the 10600k

lol also let's not forget about the shady RAM clock speed with intel motherboards, as I know, you need high tier motherboard to be able to set at least 3200 MHz? Lower tier are locked to like 2667 MHz. Am I right?
With 10th gen yes, 11th gen no. With an H500 series board and an 11400 he could run fast RAM. There is not much point in buying a K chip and Z board now that chips are clocked within an inch of their life out of box.
Monk 2021 年 5 月 12 日 上午 10:58 
引用自 Magma Dragoon
引用自 ๖Micvit 愛

lol also let's not forget about the shady RAM clock speed with intel motherboards, as I know, you need high tier motherboard to be able to set at least 3200 MHz? Lower tier are locked to like 2667 MHz. Am I right?
With 10th gen yes, 11th gen no. With an H500 series board and an 11400 he could run fast RAM. There is not much point in buying a K chip and Z board now that chips are clocked within an inch of their life out of box.

They aren't though, there's plenty of space to overclock for extra performance, as for 11th gen, just ignore it, but 10th gen while urs still about abd heavily discounted (10700k is currently the king of mid range) then move to ryzen.



引用自 Crosseyed Mie
AMD is always better.

So not true.
Who is better varies between task/objective and budget.


Op. Ignore non K chips, save up a bit more and go with a 10700k with an entry level z490 or if you can find it cheaper a 9900k with a z390, the extra cores will pay off over time while both chips overclock really well to the point they happily trade blows with the 5800x and 5900x and your only giving up pcie4 which has very little real world gains for gaming.

Locked cpu's will bite you in the bum long term.
dOBER 2021 年 5 月 12 日 上午 11:05 
引用自 Agent Panda
I'm building a new pc and am divided over whether or not should I spend double on an i7 10700 compared to an I5-10400?

I7 10700 has edge over I5-10400 on most of the Gameplay FPS comparison video on youtube, but only by a margin of 10-20% so is really worth paying double for an i7? What would be the benifit if i chose i7 over i5
Important part is not only 2 cores and 700mhz more base clock, you buy a K cpu which can be overclocked. 5.0 ghz allcore can be done on nearly every 10700k. Thats 1ghz more per clock then i5-10400 which increases the gab even more.
Illusion of Progress 2021 年 5 月 12 日 上午 11:20 
Comparing almost anything else with the Core i5 10400 is pretty much going to end unfavorable for the other if you measure it by performance for cost, because that's one of the areas it excels in. It doesn't mean it's not worth spending up, though.
引用自 ThePatchWorkHoax
I5-10400?? They keep just making that number higher don't they. I got an I5 8600k lol
This has been happening since the "Core i" scheme took hold. The last three digits usually signify position on the lineup, and any prior ones usually signify series (with the exception of the very first generation was just three digit numbers and lacked a 1 at the start, which, besides not having a 1000 series, I at least commend Intel for not skipping generations as nVidia and now AMD seem to).

For example, Core i5 2400 would be a second generation Core i5, whereas a Core i5 10400 is a 10th generation Core i5.

For the following numbers after the generation, usually, 100 through 300 is Core i3, 400 through 500 or 600 is Core i5, and 600 or 700 and up is Core i7 (now with Core i9, 800+ seems to be it). And, for the most part, the numbers are clean 100 multipliers, with a few 50s and even fewer rare exceptions (8086K, for example, being an anniversary throwback to the original 8086 CPU). It's varied a bit through the years, of course (for example, the 2600 was a Core i7, but the 8600 was a Core i5). On the whole, Intel's numbering scheme has been consistently better than AMDs on the CPU or GPU front or nVidia's on the GPU front IMO.

Edit: The above point on the second part of the numbering was more in reference to desktop parts. Mobile parts are more often broken down by more than a simple 100s ending number.
最後修改者:Illusion of Progress; 2021 年 5 月 12 日 上午 11:22
tonimark 2021 年 5 月 12 日 上午 11:30 
引用自 Agent Panda
I'm building a new pc and am divided over whether or not should I spend double on an i7 10700 compared to an I5-10400?

I7 10700 has edge over I5-10400 on most of the Gameplay FPS comparison video on youtube, but only by a margin of 10-20% so is really worth paying double for an i7? What would be the benifit if i chose i7 over i5
i7s are future-proof meaning if you really pay the price you may not need a CPU upgrade for some time like 6years+ i5s are meanstream CPU meaning they offer just the performance you need at current generation for gaming but it will not really last , after 5 years it may still run the latest games but may struggle in higher settings,cpu demanding ones
Monk 2021 年 5 月 12 日 上午 11:35 
引用自 tonimark
引用自 Agent Panda
I'm building a new pc and am divided over whether or not should I spend double on an i7 10700 compared to an I5-10400?

I7 10700 has edge over I5-10400 on most of the Gameplay FPS comparison video on youtube, but only by a margin of 10-20% so is really worth paying double for an i7? What would be the benifit if i chose i7 over i5
i7s are future-proof meaning if you really pay the price you may not need a CPU upgrade for some time like 6years+ i5s are meanstream CPU meaning they offer just the performance you need at current generation for gaming but it will not really last , after 5 years it may still run the latest games but may struggle in higher settings,cpu demanding ones

No such thing as 'future proof', however, the extra threads should allow it to last longer.
tonimark 2021 年 5 月 12 日 上午 11:41 
引用自 TRASH
引用自 Crosseyed Mie
AMD is always better.
They seem very unreliable to me.
amd is very good but people find its price very unapealling and buy intel i5 instead , i did the critical mistake of purchasing i5 for 150 euros while a ryzen 5 costed around 300 euros or 250 euros much higher in price but with more value to performance
Tabloid tuesday 2021 年 5 月 12 日 下午 3:32 
Guy's... guy's... I still get great hd video on youtube with my amd hd discreet series
_I_ 2021 年 5 月 12 日 下午 4:24 
引用自 ๖Micvit 愛
引用自 _I_
either go with an intel k cpu and z board, or go ryzen 3600-5000

the locked intels have lower core performance

i5 10600k has the faster cores and unlocked to oc if you give it better cooling
the 10700k has 2 more cores, 10900k with 4 more cores
both with about the same core performance ~+5% over the 10600k

lol also let's not forget about the shady RAM clock speed with intel motherboards, as I know, you need high tier motherboard to be able to set at least 3200 MHz? Lower tier are locked to like 2667 MHz. Am I right?
part of why you get a z board
the cheap chipsets often limit ram and other things
HALO_run 2021 年 5 月 13 日 上午 3:06 
引用自 ๖Micvit 愛
引用自 HALO_run
I5-10600

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-10700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-10600K/4070vs4072

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-10700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-10400/4070vs4073

Userbenchmark isn't really good to compare CPUs.
If you think about it, i7 is in the end more worth. 8 cores against 6. The CPU will serve for much longer. Less worries about things running in background.
The headroom is there and it can come extremely handy.
6 is fine also Userbenchmark is fine, as long as it works it is fine
Monk 2021 年 5 月 13 日 上午 10:08 
Yes 6 cores is fine, but 8 for cheaper, is better.

Also, Userbenchmark is awful and isn't used by anyone who knows what they are talking about for comparison.
Mad Scientist 2021 年 5 月 13 日 上午 10:27 
引用自 TRASH
引用自 Crosseyed Mie
AMD is always better.
They seem very unreliable to me.
AMD has always been fairly good in terms of reliability, they just used to run really hot and be poor excuses for CPUs. Since Ryzen, they've become not only fast processors but run cooler than intels current generation, while still being generally more affordable than intel which is normal for them.

引用自 Monk
Yes 6 cores is fine, but 8 for cheaper, is better.

Also, Userbenchmark is awful and isn't used by anyone who knows what they are talking about for comparison.
It was and is often used by part manufacturers as a general quick-link to customers, among other sources as well, if people are having doubts. Sometimes linking quickly to push out emails faster is all you need.
最後修改者:Mad Scientist; 2021 年 5 月 13 日 上午 10:29
Illusion of Progress 2021 年 5 月 13 日 上午 10:32 
引用自 HALO_run
6 is fine also Userbenchmark is fine, as long as it works it is fine
User Benchmark really isn't fine. It's a made up method of testing that's been recently changed to weight things that that are increasing in importance with less weight (as in, backwards of how it should be, if anything), mostly to favor Intel, and the stances and summaries they once held (avoid AMD because it's slightly worse, even if it's a better value, and go for Intel for superior performance) are now being flip flopped (get Intel because it's a much better value and avoid that silly AMD marketing). It's shamelessly hypocritical and biased for a website that should have only ever been objective, leaving opinion making up to the user(s), but even before the recent few years, it still wasn't really a good replacement for proper data like some would use it as (good for rough supplementing of it, sure, but not as a full replacement). User Benchmark was never anything other than really good SEO for a website to draw in the clicks.

That being said, if you're using it to compare Intel to Intel only or AMD to AMD only, and ignore the summary, it's fine.
dOBER 2021 年 5 月 13 日 上午 11:06 
The whole 300% ufo ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on userbenchmark was always bad. Even more fps for game x. There was no benchmark, people write whatever they want. 500fps on cs for a 1030 no problem. % based of 2060? Yes this is helpfull.. not.

Did a quick run and they show me this

http://imgur.com/a/XNiecxH

My arrow is outside of this scale. Still dx9/dx10 tests in 2021? I dont think these numbers are helpfull at all.

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