New cpu and motherboard or new psu and better but used gpu?

[dragon864789]

So if I had $600 and I had to choose between upgrading my motherboard and cpu or my gpu (with a used gpu) and psu

Which one would be most beneficial?

So far I got a i7-9700, rtx 2070 super , DDR4 3200mhz 32gb ram,


Tho my gpu only has 1 fan, and was totally from a pre-build omen and so idk what brand this rtx 2070 super us from but it works pretty damn well but something better could be great and idk better gpu over cpu (and motherboard) would be better upgrade

Anyways your thoughts would be grand

[Azza ☠]

Your CPU won't bottleneck even a RTX 3090 graphics card, but you would likely need a higher wattage PSU depending on what you currently have?

While the RTX 2070 super is already quite good, depending on your screen resolution and refresh rate (plus does your monitor support G-SYNC?), you would find a graphics card to be a much better FPS performance increase compared to any CPU, if used for gaming purposes.

If replacing graphics card, aim for a RTX 3070 TI, 3080 or 3090, to make it a worthwhile 25% performance increase or more. RTX 3070 would give you 15% more performance, anything less than that wouldn't be worthwhile or noticed much. Note: It would depend on your monitor to how much you will be able to dish out too.

What HDD (hard drive) or SSD (solid state drive) are you using? Depending on your current motherboard, if it supports a M.2 NVMe SSD, and you haven't already. Use that as your Boot and Operating System drive (consider a Samsung 980 Pro and using their clone tool to move the OS across). That would give your system a faster loading time and overall snappier response. This won't affect the FPS, however Win 11 will like this for gaming purposes as well, due to it's direct storage feature, letting it dish game textures across from the drive to graphic card memory faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-P0ZISKCGo

[Illusion of Progress]

Unless you can find an RTX 3080 for that price, neither? Normally, a GPU would give you better gaming performance, but given the GPU you already have and what they cost today, I don't think you'll find an upgrade from your current spot that's worth it with the budget you have. I'd sit on the savings and maybe even build it and upgrade later when costs are better (or at least performance has gone up so you get a bigger jump for it).

[dragon864789]

引用自 Azza ☠：

Your CPU won't bottleneck even a RTX 3090 graphics card, but you would likely need a higher wattage PSU depending on what you currently have?

While the RTX 2070 super is already quite good, depending on your screen resolution and refresh rate (plus does your monitor support G-SYNC?), you would find a graphics card to be a much better FPS performance increase compared to any CPU, if used for gaming purposes.

If replacing graphics card, aim for a RTX 3070 TI, 3080 or 3090, to make it a worthwhile 25% performance increase or more. RTX 3070 would give you 15% more performance, anything less than that wouldn't be worthwhile or noticed much. Note: It would depend on your monitor to how much you will be able to dish out too.

What HDD (hard drive) or SSD (solid state drive) are you using? Depending on your current motherboard, if it supports a M.2 NVMe SSD, and you haven't already. Use that as your Boot and Operating System drive (consider a Samsung 980 Pro and using their clone tool to move the OS across). That would give your system a faster loading time and overall snappier response. This won't affect the FPS, however Win 11 will like this for gaming purposes as well, due to it's direct storage feature, letting it dish game textures across from the drive to graphic card memory faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-P0ZISKCGo

i got 2 monitors and both of them are 144hz, with one being 1080p and the other being 1440p, and all my storage is ssd's

[dragon864789]

引用自 Illusion of Progress：

Unless you can find an RTX 3080 for that price, neither? Normally, a GPU would give you better gaming performance, but given the GPU you already have and what they cost today, I don't think you'll find an upgrade from your current spot that's worth it with the budget you have. I'd sit on the savings and maybe even build it and upgrade later when costs are better (or at least performance has gone up so you get a bigger jump for it).

i mean im all good buying used parts if it means a good difference, but like if i cant get any better performance upgrade or stabilization within $600 , then i guess my best bet is waiting but im just wondering




also i wish i could kill desktop window manager

[Illusion of Progress]

引用自 dragon864789：

i mean im all good buying used parts if it means a good difference, but like if i cant get any better performance upgrade or stabilization within $600 , then i guess my best bet is waiting but im just wondering

You'll have to look at your local options but I would hazard a guess that you'd be better off saving and waiting, unless you really want more performance now and don't mind spending for it.

It's not worth investing that money into a better platform and CPU either IMO as you'll also see very small gains. I'd stay with that platform until two or three generations into the next, when DDR5 has gotten faster, with more options, at better pricing (will likely be expensive at the onset). By then we have another new GPU generation or two which would give more justification to changing the platform too. Your platform is more than fine until then though.

引用自 dragon864789：

also i wish i could kill desktop window manager

Huh?

[dragon864789]

引用自 Illusion of Progress：

引用自 dragon864789：

i mean im all good buying used parts if it means a good difference, but like if i cant get any better performance upgrade or stabilization within $600 , then i guess my best bet is waiting but im just wondering

You'll have to look at your local options but I would hazard a guess that you'd be better off saving and waiting, unless you really want more performance now and don't mind spending for it.

It's not worth investing that money into a better platform and CPU either IMO as you'll also see very small gains. I'd stay with that platform until two or three generations into the next, when DDR5 has gotten faster, with more options, at better pricing (will likely be expensive at the onset). By then we have another new GPU generation or two which would give more justification to changing the platform too. Your platform is more than fine until then though.

引用自 dragon864789：

also i wish i could kill desktop window manager

Huh?

desktop window manager likes to take up alot of cpu and gpu for some reason

[Illusion of Progress]

Since that is a process rather than an application itself, something else may be leveraging it. You sort of need it for Windows as far as I would guess though so you wouldn't really want to get rid of it anyway.

[Azza ☠]

引用自 dragon864789：

引用自 Illusion of Progress：

You'll have to look at your local options but I would hazard a guess that you'd be better off saving and waiting, unless you really want more performance now and don't mind spending for it.

It's not worth investing that money into a better platform and CPU either IMO as you'll also see very small gains. I'd stay with that platform until two or three generations into the next, when DDR5 has gotten faster, with more options, at better pricing (will likely be expensive at the onset). By then we have another new GPU generation or two which would give more justification to changing the platform too. Your platform is more than fine until then though.

Huh?

desktop window manager likes to take up alot of cpu and gpu for some reason

Your problem might be malware related if it's doing that... such as a Bitcoin mining rootkit?

Consider downloading, updating and running a full scan with SpyBot or similar:
https://www.safer-networking.org/download/

Let that run, it will come back with a big list of privacy concerns, then check the threat levels on each (if green it's fine, otherwise remove it) or just remove the lot.

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Also, I would suggest running a System File Check.

Right-click the Start button > Windows Powershell (Admin)

Type in the Powershell: sfc /scannow

Let that run and Windows will check your system files against the latest online, attempting to repair any corrupted, infected or missing.

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Under the Windows Search/Run box, type: winver

You should be running on Version 21H1 if Win 10, or are you using Win 11?

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Download and install the latest BIOS and Drivers from your official motherboard website.

Get the latest Nvidia graphic card drivers too:
https://www.geforce.com/drivers

Driver Version 496.13 had some performance issues with some users, try the next version 496.49 or an earlier 472.12, if the case.

Your RTX 2070 super and CPU should be happily getting 60+ FPS on very high to ultra settings with 1440p resolution while gaming, using that 1080p resolution monitor as an accessory display.

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If you did want to upgrade the motherboard and cpu, I would suggest waiting an extra week or two, for the release of Intel Alder Lake CPUs and Z690 motherboards. Then check if anyone is selling off their older stuff to upgrade, if not buying brand new yourself.

Understand changing the CPU and motherboard will cause the Windows license to deactivate... so ensure you have it linked to a Microsoft Account if it's a digital entitlement, so you can login and reactivate afterwards.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

I would not mess with it really currently, it has decent CPU and GPU already and spending money at this point when prices are pretty insane is kinda pointless.

[A&A]

At this point, keep your money for now. This is what l would do.

[Drystoner]

With a build like that I'm sure you'll be fine holding onto it for another year or 2. Unless your demands are really high like 1440p 144fps gaming or 4k 60 fps....

[dragon864789]

引用自 Azza ☠：

引用自 dragon864789：

desktop window manager likes to take up alot of cpu and gpu for some reason

Your problem might be malware related if it's doing that... such as a Bitcoin mining rootkit?

Consider downloading, updating and running a full scan with SpyBot or similar:
https://www.safer-networking.org/download/

Let that run, it will come back with a big list of privacy concerns, then check the threat levels on each (if green it's fine, otherwise remove it) or just remove the lot.

---

Also, I would suggest running a System File Check.

Right-click the Start button > Windows Powershell (Admin)

Type in the Powershell: sfc /scannow

Let that run and Windows will check your system files against the latest online, attempting to repair any corrupted, infected or missing.

---

Under the Windows Search/Run box, type: winver

You should be running on Version 21H1 if Win 10, or are you using Win 11?

---

Download and install the latest BIOS and Drivers from your official motherboard website.

Get the latest Nvidia graphic card drivers too:
https://www.geforce.com/drivers

Driver Version 496.13 had some performance issues with some users, try the next version 496.49 or an earlier 472.12, if the case.

Your RTX 2070 super and CPU should be happily getting 60+ FPS on very high to ultra settings with 1440p resolution while gaming, using that 1080p resolution monitor as an accessory display.

---

If you did want to upgrade the motherboard and cpu, I would suggest waiting an extra week or two, for the release of Intel Alder Lake CPUs and Z690 motherboards. Then check if anyone is selling off their older stuff to upgrade, if not buying brand new yourself.

Understand changing the CPU and motherboard will cause the Windows license to deactivate... so ensure you have it linked to a Microsoft Account if it's a digital entitlement, so you can login and reactivate afterwards.

basede on all this i seem to be all good, just that when even i used obs and borderlands 3 together , windows device manager likes to take alot of recourses then the game itself

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Your GPU is fine; $600 will not net you anything better.
You'd have to have around $1200 or more for a better GPU.

[dragon864789]

引用自 Bad 💀 Motha：

Your GPU is fine; $600 will not net you anything better.
You'd have to have around $1200 or more for a better GPU.

for a new one yes?