New to AMD; how hot are they supposed to get?

[Arya]

I'll soon be assembling my brand new PC. I have a 6900xt and a 5900 with a Dark Rock Pro4, and I'm wondering what kind of temperatures would be ideal, and what I can expect during gaming. My case is a Fractal Design S2 Meshify with a full compliment of fans for max airflow.

And I would also appreciate any other advice you can think of; I've never owned an AMD based system before. I'm solely experienced with Intel.

[Haruspex]

Reviews for the 6900xt put the temperature under stress around mid 70 c to mid 80 c. Junction temp was around 97 c.

Most Ryzen 5900s seem to run at about 92.57 c - 101 c. I think this is with the default Wraith Prism cooler though. You might get lower temps with that Dark Rock Pro 4.

I've been on AMD a long time now, and if you're on Windows the best advice I can give is to use the AMD Driver Removal tool or DDU to completely remove the old AMD software before you upgrade the driver each time. It will probably be fine to skip this, but getting a clean start will cut the chances of less than desirable effects.

Going all AMD also gives you an opportunity to get the absolute best out of Linux if you want to give that a try. The open source Mesa drivers are absolutely fantastic, and the new kernel update rolling out to various distros comes with some awesome Ryzen specific optimizations.

Welcome to the Red Team. I think you'll like it here.

[r.linder]

1. It's normal for AMD's GPUs to reach 100+ degrees on the junction/hot spot temperature. Max temp is 110.

2. It's normal for Ryzen 5000 series to reach 80~90 degrees, max temp before throttling on Zen3 seems to be 95 C for 65W CPUs and 90 C for 105W CPUs.

MANY 5000 series users report high temperatures under load. As long as you're not constantly throttling (90+), it's fine.

Be warned that you may or may not have the occasional stupid issue with the AM4 platform depending on the motherboard and RAM you end up using.

[AbedsBrother]

Remember to install the chipset drivers.

[Arya]

Originally posted by Escorve:

1. It's normal for AMD's GPUs to reach 100+ degrees on the junction/hot spot temperature. Max temp is 110.

2. It's normal for Ryzen 5000 series to reach 80~90 degrees, max temp before throttling on Zen3 seems to be 95 C for 65W CPUs and 90 C for 105W CPUs.

MANY 5000 series users report high temperatures under load. As long as you're not constantly throttling (90+), it's fine.

Be warned that you may or may not have the occasional stupid issue with the AM4 platform depending on the motherboard and RAM you end up using.

Will it still get that hot, even using a huge twin tower cooler?

[invision2212]

90c is not okay........

sure it will run at that but that is close to the upper limit

my 5600x reaches 60c max using a hyper 212

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Skye:

Originally posted by Escorve:

1. It's normal for AMD's GPUs to reach 100+ degrees on the junction/hot spot temperature. Max temp is 110.

2. It's normal for Ryzen 5000 series to reach 80~90 degrees, max temp before throttling on Zen3 seems to be 95 C for 65W CPUs and 90 C for 105W CPUs.

MANY 5000 series users report high temperatures under load. As long as you're not constantly throttling (90+), it's fine.

Be warned that you may or may not have the occasional stupid issue with the AM4 platform depending on the motherboard and RAM you end up using.

Will it still get that hot, even using a huge twin tower cooler?

With a 5900X, yeah, it's possible. We're talking about a 12 core 24 thread beast that can draw up to around 180W with PBO enabled (142W max at stock) and run pretty decent clocks.

[_I_]

212 is not enough to keep it under 60c
its good for mild oc on 90-100w cpu, but not enough for 125+w cpus overclocked

under 90c is ok
it will throttle at 90-100c

[Arya]

I looked into benchmarks and was very lucky to find a review with a 5900x and the cooler I plan to use(beQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4). It only got to 67c during a burn test, so I feel very calmed by that.

It's worth noting that was with two fans installed; DRP4s have a third slot if necessary

[Viking2121]

My 5800x likes to run a bit warm on my Noctua NH-D15, I've seen 90C on hot days bone stock PBO settings.

Now I've Played with the boost power limits to lower temps somewhat but also increase performance due to the chip able to run a little cooler by drawing less power. But 90C is fine, I personally don't like it, but its not going to hurt anything, they are designed to run boost clocks up until a power limit is met or a temp limit and it will no longer boost as high or clock lower to keep temps below its TJ-Max.

Cooler the better of course, On these newer chips, the cooler also increases performance of it.

If you look around you can play with the PPT EDC and TDC setting for the PBO power tables in bios, I'd suggest you look around with your chip in mind and read what these settings can do, lower value will lower temp and power consumption, but too low you can hurt performance, kinda like a fine line you have to find and each chip is different so not everyones settings you find online will be optimal settings for your config, but this is for more of the advanced users, I'd definitely read up on it before just playing with settings.

[Clan Wolf]

remember vega cards? the refreshed the polaris chip too many times, finishing with the 570, 580 (good one) 590 (getting worse) vega and we have landed on the sun

[Illusion of Progress]

Ideal temperatures are temperatures which aren't too high. That's sort of it. The "lower the better" is the only absolute, and the idea that there is an "ideal" specific number to stay below isn't too based in fact. For comfort and ease of mind, most would suggest to have a buffer between your maximum and when it begins throttling, which is fair advice, but don't fixate on a certain subjective number.

I've seen others get lower temperatures than I do with "worse" cooling than I have on the CPU. There's too many variables; ambient temperature, case, case cooling (and fan speed), what you're doing to cause the load, and what you're using to measure it. Too often people fixate ONLY on the CPU cooler and you can't compare on that alone, because let's say someone has lower temperatures than me with a "worse" cooler, then it doesn't matter to me, because I'd still have even higher temperatures with that same cooler then. My other variables (ambient, case, case fan speed which I keep lower by the way) might be contributing.

As for what the expect, not much? Simple operation, I guess. Overclocking is a bit different (as in, not really worth it on AMD as they do their own thing when left to their own devices) but other than that, mine has been the same for me. I'm also someone on an AMD platform (B550/3700X/Dark Rock Pro 4/Fractal Arc Midi) after a very long time of being on Intel. I'm using four modules of RAM at 3,600 MHz and it's otherwise behaving just as stable as my last many Intel platforms with full RAM. The CPUs CAN run warm, especially intermittently, but it's not a cause for concern, and modern CPUs do run warmer across the board, especially the very high core count ones. If there's one thing to expect, it's to even more toss out the idea that "idle" means much. But as for issues, I've have one BIOS version give me a runaround but that's been it thus far. It's worth noting there's a few growing issues between AMD platforms and Windows 11 but those should be worked out soon (and one of the two is really important but the other depends on who you ask).

I can't speak for GPUs as the last "AMD" GPU I had was so far back it was when they were called ATI (not counting one lower end one I used in the HD 4000/5000 days for someone else's PC, which I had no reports from them with issues with it).

[emoticorpse]

My 3700x is about 40 on idle and on moderate work jumps to 50-65 degrees and on full load will reach 71. It will go higher i think, but i would have to leave it running for a while like that.

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Originally posted by Escorve:

1. It's normal for AMD's GPUs to reach 100+ degrees on the junction/hot spot temperature. Max temp is 110.

This. My 5700XT GPU would hit 100 at the hot spot from day one. Now I am doing more graphics intense games and it always hits 112. I assume it is throttling at that point but I can't really tell. It reaches that temperature very quickly and stays here. The average temperature is about 70. I "need" to upgrade to a 6900XT. Maybe for Xmas I will pay the scalper prices.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Originally posted by Skye:

And I would also appreciate any other advice you can think of; I've never owned an AMD based system before. I'm solely experienced with Intel.

Just don't overclock on AMD.

[AbedsBrother]

Originally posted by Out Of Bubblegum:

Originally posted by Escorve:

1. It's normal for AMD's GPUs to reach 100+ degrees on the junction/hot spot temperature. Max temp is 110.

This. My 5700XT GPU would hit 100 at the hot spot from day one. Now I am doing more graphics intense games and it always hits 112. I assume it is throttling at that point but I can't really tell. It reaches that temperature very quickly and stays here. The average temperature is about 70. I "need" to upgrade to a 6900XT. Maybe for Xmas I will pay the scalper prices.

Re-pasting your gpu will probably lower the hotspot temp (it did for me)