Is my CPU Temps the reason why I crash in GTA V a lot?

[DubboG]

so in gta v i get 85c while playing, and im crashing VERY very frequently. I dont know what it could possibly be besides my CPU temps but in every other game i play (which is many), im never crashing.

my specs are: RTX 3070 gigabyte oc

ryzen 5 5600x stock cooler boosted to 4.7ghz undervolted (as i mentioned earlier in every other game i play such as apex legends, valorant and other fps games i dont crash at all)

16gb ddr4 ram 3200mhz

1440p 170hz monitor.

thanks.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Check the temperatures.

Usually the computer would shut off, if a heat problem causes a shut down.
(Do not rely on that)

I would call below 70 celsius for cpu safe, and below 80 for grafic.
Others go by the maximum heat as window.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Use temperature monitor programms computer magazines talk about.
Read the max temperature of your hardware specification.

Stay a good bit below it at full load.

[WarBucks]

87c is pretty much stock cpu cooler territory. The max temps are like 95C. You could try redoing the thermal pastethe stock cooler thermal pastes typically arent great. I doubt it will do wonders though

You would probably get much less noise and lower temps at that frequency, or a higher overclock with a 3rd party cooler.

Itd be a good learning experience at least

[DubboG]

Ursprungligen skrivet av WarBucks:

i understand ya. i have been told however, that is cpu temps were a problem then my PC would shut down. I'm starting to think somethings very wrong with GTA V even though its a fresh install. Every other game i play does fine and never crashes. even with the temps that i get like 80c and such. Hmmmmmmmmmm

[Crashed]

Ursprungligen skrivet av DubboG:

so in gta v i get 85c while playing, and im crashing VERY very frequently. I dont know what it could possibly be besides my CPU temps but in every other game i play (which is many), im never crashing.

my specs are: RTX 3070 gigabyte oc

ryzen 5 5600x stock cooler boosted to 4.7ghz undervolted (as i mentioned earlier in every other game i play such as apex legends, valorant and other fps games i dont crash at all)

16gb ddr4 ram 3200mhz

1440p 170hz monitor.

thanks.

Do you get zlib errors in GTA V frequently, and have it fail the file verification? If so that's a CPU error.

[DubboG]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av DubboG:

unfortunately i get no errors. about 3-5 minutes after i load in it just suddenly closes my game with no messages or anything. im gettin sooooooo frustrated. and no fails in file verification either :/

[Crashed]

So it seems the assets are intact then; please also note that by default Windows 10 often doesn't show the crash dialog anymore. However, there may be a message in Event Viewer.

[DubboG]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Crashed:

So it seems the assets are intact then; please also note that by default Windows 10 often doesn't show the crash dialog anymore. However, there may be a message in Event Viewer.

i found something in event viewer.

Faulting application name: GTA5.exe, version: 1.0.2372.2, time stamp: 0x61138368
Faulting module name: GTA5.exe, version: 1.0.2372.2, time stamp: 0x61138368
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000000000094c520
Faulting process id: 0x32e0
Faulting application start time: 0x01d7c0351dedabf4
Faulting application path: D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Grand Theft Auto V\GTA5.exe
Faulting module path: D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Grand Theft Auto V\GTA5.exe
Report Id: 22254824-5af2-4ce0-8145-f82116af1271
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

[Crashed]

This could be a CPU error too, but it is also possible a faulty graphics driver could be corrupting structures that get interacted with by the game process.

I do notice you mention undervolting; this can cause errors while overtemp will usually just cause the processor to automatically throttle to maintain safe temperature, which on modern silicon can actually go up to 105°C. According to AMD, running temps of 95°C is normal.

I tried to undervolt my Intel CPU a bit to avoid throttling while playing Final Fantasy XV; I did not win the silicon lottery.

[Viking2121]

Bone stock, the 5600x with PBO enabled can run all the way up to 90C before it throttles on most boards, some are 95C, usually they hit a power limit before that unless the cooler is just really bad or you enabled a more aggressive PBO setting in the bios.

Now being safe temp, I can't say 90C is safe, I'd prefer to keep it under 80C but then again, AMD designed these chips and they know more about it than some rando on the internet, Same thing with Intel chips, there rated life span is based on TJ Max of 95C on the 5600x so anything lower than that, is of course going to be always better, and for AMD, cooler CPU the more performance you will normally get with how PBO works.

Glad you fixed it though!

[Muppet among Puppets]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Viking2121:

Bone stock, the 5600x with PBO enabled can run all the way up to 90C before it throttles on most boards, some are 95C, usually they hit a power limit before that unless the cooler is just really bad or you enabled a more aggressive PBO setting in the bios.

Now being safe temp, I can't say 90C is safe, I'd prefer to keep it under 80C but then again, AMD designed these chips and they know more about it than some rando on the internet, Same thing with Intel chips, there rated life span is based on TJ Max of 95C on the 5600x so anything lower than that, is of course going to be always better, and for AMD, cooler CPU the more performance you will normally get with how PBO works.

Glad you fixed it though!

The chip temperatures affect many other things as well.
Rule of thumb, keep it cold. What is the rated lifespan? The warranty? Thats also not the expected lifespan for the customer.

[Viking2121]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Muppet among Puppets:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Viking2121:

Bone stock, the 5600x with PBO enabled can run all the way up to 90C before it throttles on most boards, some are 95C, usually they hit a power limit before that unless the cooler is just really bad or you enabled a more aggressive PBO setting in the bios.

Now being safe temp, I can't say 90C is safe, I'd prefer to keep it under 80C but then again, AMD designed these chips and they know more about it than some rando on the internet, Same thing with Intel chips, there rated life span is based on TJ Max of 95C on the 5600x so anything lower than that, is of course going to be always better, and for AMD, cooler CPU the more performance you will normally get with how PBO works.

Glad you fixed it though!

The chip temperatures affect many other things as well.
Rule of thumb, keep it cold. What is the rated lifespan? The warranty? Thats also not the expected lifespan for the customer.

Many things? I've already stated it will change it maximum boost, that is of course if it does not hit a power limit, you can have the crappiest cooler on the thing and it should still run at a reduced speed up at 95C, of course again, no cooler it'll shoot up past 95C quite fast and thermal trip regardless.

Lifespan, AMD and Intel rate these CPU's at their maximum rated temp, and then expects the chip for example to run safely for 10 years at 95C at full load and will still be under warranty, them honoring it, well thats another story.

They don't rate CPU's based on the average user, its pretty complicated to do so.

So "affecting many other things" is null if it stays at or under its TJ Max, Memory controller, onboard video is part of the TJ Max rating. As I mentioned already, colder it better.

Again, if his CPU can not run stable at 95C and crashes some programs because of it, either his CPU is bad or Motherboard, no if and or but about it, the CPU is designed to run at 95C full blast for years regardless of what you think or think you know.

Of course I already said Cooler is better for the life of the CPU, and the performance, so you don't need to repeat me again.

[DubboG]

So the problem actually ended up being overclocking. GTA reeeeally doesnt like my overclocked cpu. if i go over 4.3ghz overclock it will crash within 5-10 mins in game. dayme

[Muppet among Puppets]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Viking2121:

the CPU is designed to run at 95C full blast for years regardless of what you think or think you know.

Maximum is not the target temperature

[Ghost]

I have the same CPU. Runs cold with my AIO Cooler. Not tried overclocking it as i don't see benefits of doing it.